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Bulk then cut in same cycle

g4diesel

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I am 13 weeks into a cycle in which I have been running 750mg of primo and 250mg of prop per week. I have surpassed my expectations of 15 pounds and am flirting with 20. I had planned to run a 20 week cycle, but frankly I don't want to put on anymore weight. I really want to take what I have now and chisel up throughout my mid section to bring in my abs more. I am 33 years old, 6'/195 lbs at 11% bf. I have been eating a clean, high protein diet while sitting around 2800 calories. I have been hitting cardio three days a week @ 20 minutes per session. My question is, can I switch over and cut for 6 weeks to finish off this cycle? I was considering a prop (100eod), T3, clen cycle. Would this kill all the gains I have had or would I be ok due to the prop? I've read plenty about primo/prop & prop/t3/clen, but not in one cycle. Any help would be appreciated.
 
I advise against clen. It's dangerous and not worth it. If your already running primo and test then I would continue to do so and just cut cals and add in more cardio. I would add in some n2slin for better nutrient usage.


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Yeah clen and T3.... destroy your heart muscle and fuck up your natural thyroid/endocrine to lose some fat. Why not do some fucking cardio and diet adjustments? Why is adding more drugs to do the work for you always the answer. Why is everyone so lazy?
The cardio your doing is just enough to keep your heart healthy. How bout try some real fat burning cardio like an hour a day 7 days a week. Interval sprints, high intensity shit. Jog a few miles every day.

And really.....your at almost 20 lb gains? Good for you. Which means you ran a cycle at 6'0" at 175 lb? Are you fucking kidding me? ZERO base to start with I imagine. I would love to see a pic. Especially a before pic. You had better have a kitchen sink pct because you'll be lucky if you keep 5 lb. Being 6'0" myself I remember being 175 lb. I was 16. I was a fucking twig. No way you had any base whatsoever before hand.
 
Yeah clen and T3.... destroy your heart muscle and fuck up your natural thyroid/endocrine to lose some fat. Why not do some fucking cardio and diet adjustments? Why is adding more drugs to do the work for you always the answer. Why is everyone so lazy?
The cardio your doing is just enough to keep your heart healthy. How bout try some real fat burning cardio like an hour a day 7 days a week. Interval sprints, high intensity shit. Jog a few miles every day.

And really.....your at almost 20 lb gains? Good for you. Which means you ran a cycle at 6'0" at 175 lb? Are you fucking kidding me? ZERO base to start with I imagine. I would love to see a pic. Especially a before pic. You had better have a kitchen sink pct because you'll be lucky if you keep 5 lb. Being 6'0" myself I remember being 175 lb. I was 16. I was a fucking twig. No way you had any base whatsoever before hand.

It's all water and McDonald's.
 
you absolutely don't want to add any of the thermogenics you listed... they are all fucking terrible... anavar or winstrol is the best way to polish off a cycle...
 
Strict diet and water retention will dictate your results in cutting more then the gear just remember that

...genetics and aerobics will come into play as well.I dont like the idea of cutting and bulking in the same cycle..i fully believe one or the other is the best way

Also agree with others about.. stay the hell away from clen!
 
You can definitely add mass and then cut up in the same cycle. This is my normal protocol that I follow each and every cycle, and it works well. While still on the hormones, your body will hold onto all the muscle you gained well. Just don't cut in PCT.

Adjust your cals and cardio accordingly, but leave out stuff like Clen and T3 which can just complicate things for you.
 
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