Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below hey i am 23 years old and was wanting to do a 12 week cycle with test and tren and also anavar for weeks 1-6 and winny weeks 8-12. i have done my research and was wondering what other people thought about the type of test and tren and dosage or if i should drop one and add another. im a personal trainer and dont want to gain to much to fast would like more of just steady gains noticeable but not to crazy. i work out 6 days a week 4-5 heavy lifting days and 1-2 cardio and or light weight higher rep workouts. my diet is in check will be about 45/35/20 im currently weighing in at 218. my goal is to add about 10-12 pounds of muscle and drop my body fat from 12% to about 8%.
gymjunkie09
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overkill for ten lbs for sure....are you cutting or bulking
, you say you wanna gain 10lbs muscle and lose 4%bf which would be 10-12 lbs at your weight. Why not just cut down first then run your cycle? Just seems more reasonable to me idki would consider it a cutting cycle while maintaining and adding a little bit of muscle and for my cycle history ive ran test enth with var and did pretty good had a slight gyno problem tho and ive done hgh only a few times for about 3-6 months at a time. by only problem with cutting first then doing the cycle is that for some reason its really hard for me to cut fat without loosing alot of muscle so i thought as long as i kept it moderate i would be able to do both at the same time. should i lose the tren and winny and add hgh or igf-1 or what do you guys think
as of right now...
weeks 1-12 350-500mg test per week prop or enth (what do you guys think)
weeks 8 or 9 to weeks 12 or 13 50mg oral winny every day
weeks 1-6 var 50mg every day
not sure about pct yet so just let me know and also thoughts on dropping winny or var and adding igf lr3 or hgh???
im up for any suggestions and comments so just let me know what you guys think
weeks 1-12 350-500mg test per week prop or enth (what do you guys think)
weeks 8 or 9 to weeks 12 or 13 50mg oral winny every day
weeks 1-6 var 50mg every day
not sure about pct yet so just let me know and also thoughts on dropping winny or var and adding igf lr3 or hgh???
im up for any suggestions and comments so just let me know what you guys think
thelocal
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I would do mast e just to cut back on injections and really any test works..only test I ever used is cup and I had great gains..u shouldn't need a A I unless ur really sensitive to estrogen ..yes you need some hcg start it week 4 at 250ius twice a week ..now fir pct I see a lot of people do this so this is what I will recommend .I never pct because I never come off..
Get these items..unleashed,post cycle,hcg generate,pyhotosarms347 then after u cycled those get on some bridge and daa. U can use unleashed year round its a strong test booster
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ivansdukes
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so were looking at two shots a week monday and thursday
ik its kinda hard to spot train loosing fat but wut about for muscle in the upper body would it be ok to put them in the same syringe and shot into delts tris glutes... idk about bis traps and lats with all the nerves and tendons???
im not really worried about the pain or constantly switching of injection spots
so no like clomid adex or nolva for pct
ik its kinda hard to spot train loosing fat but wut about for muscle in the upper body would it be ok to put them in the same syringe and shot into delts tris glutes... idk about bis traps and lats with all the nerves and tendons???
im not really worried about the pain or constantly switching of injection spots
so no like clomid adex or nolva for pct
gymjunkie09
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pct
hcgenerate 5 caps ed
post cycle/unleashed 3caps each ed
clomid 25mg ed
you can also through some daa in there as well, I know I will be when I finish this cycle. When you start your pct will depend on what compounds you use, if you're using test e or c then pct will start 2 weeks after last pin. If you use test prop then it should be started 3 days after last pin. Then follow with bridge which can be ran year round if you want
gymjunkie09
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I like this idea, much better than tren on a second cycle. I would run the mast at 500mg/week though, or if you're running short esthered compounds test prop/mast prop then 150mg each eod for ten weeks, with diet and training in check you will get shredded. Don't know about putting twelve lbs of muscle and dropping 4-6% in bf tho. If you're cutting you will obviously need to be on a calorie restricted diet and I just don't see you putting on 12lbs of muscle without taking in an excess amount of calories in ten weeks.If it were that easy everyone would be doing it, Bulk or Cut choose one imo
Nailed it.
thelocal
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you can inject in your bis and tris if there big enough watch out for viens of course..i shoot in my quads,chest and have someone pin my shoulders those are the sites i switch up..i had one in my gulte before but i didnt like it i bleed like a motherfucker
yeah i was thinking i should use the same esters so i can mix them into the same shot and inject them at the same time...
so im looking at 150mg prop and mast eod var everyday the last 6 weeks or first 6 weeks???
will the mast make the prop not burn as bad and how much can you inject into each bi and tri or does that not matter to much
so im looking at 150mg prop and mast eod var everyday the last 6 weeks or first 6 weeks???
will the mast make the prop not burn as bad and how much can you inject into each bi and tri or does that not matter to much
thanks i appreciate the input...
can i use the same needle if i do 1cc in my left bi then pull it out and do another one right into my right bi or can u only put it in one time???
what kinda results are we looking at this being my second real cycle and havent used anything in awhile?
and last thing should i take creatine with the var or does it not really make a difference
can i use the same needle if i do 1cc in my left bi then pull it out and do another one right into my right bi or can u only put it in one time???
what kinda results are we looking at this being my second real cycle and havent used anything in awhile?
and last thing should i take creatine with the var or does it not really make a difference
alright i didnt think that was a good idea too do anyways...
so i did a research paper on hcg for a sports medicine class and from everything i gathered sounds like it would be a good idea to take like 2 250iu shots a week threw my hole cycle so i dont get shut down and it would also mixed with mast help with any estrogen so im not gonna take an ai threw out but was thinking that n2guard looks pretty good and clomid afterwards and if i took the hcg threw out my natty test levels shouldnt be to low that i need much more than that but thats just what i found do i really need a sarm and all that
so i did a research paper on hcg for a sports medicine class and from everything i gathered sounds like it would be a good idea to take like 2 250iu shots a week threw my hole cycle so i dont get shut down and it would also mixed with mast help with any estrogen so im not gonna take an ai threw out but was thinking that n2guard looks pretty good and clomid afterwards and if i took the hcg threw out my natty test levels shouldnt be to low that i need much more than that but thats just what i found do i really need a sarm and all that
gymjunkie09
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You're on the money with the hcg, as far as an A.I. goes you shouldn't need one but it never hurts to have some letro on hand. N2guard is g2g as well, 7 caps ed will have you covered. As far as pct goes your not running crazy doses so this should work well for you
post cycle/unleashed combo 3cap each ed
clomid 25mg ed
I think it is a good idea to add a serm to your pct, I like clomid I don't really see any point in nolva it's worthless in my eyes but I like to keep the clomid dose low because the sides suck. This will help you recover nicely and keep sides to a minimum. Get your liquid clomid from chemicalneeds.com, liquid A.I's and serms are much easier to split the doses up amongst your rats
gymjunkie09
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why have you chose the most difficult spots to pin lol, spot injecting isn't gonna make a difference if that's what your thinking. Just stick to your quads and delts. I pin 3cc's in my quad no problem, shit some people throw that in there delts. just alt 3ml in your quads and throw 1.5ml in each delt, that gives you 3 spots to alternate with so you're only pinning each about once a week. That's the downside of running short esthered compounds is the larger and more frequent injects. Trust me the last thing you wanna do right now is start jabbing test prop in your lats lmao it hurts just thinking about it
gymjunkie09
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Either way isn't gonna make a huge difference. Just if you run test prop then run mast prop with it and vice versa. I personally would stick with the shorter esther in this case, I'm pretty sure most people that use mast use prop for the simple reason its easier to get
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gymjunkie09
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I would just keep it on hand, letro is harsh stuff and will dry your joints out. You should be ok with test/mast but it wouldn't hurt to run forma 5pump am and 5 pump pm to keep bloat in check. You can get that from mrsupps.com dicoount code needto10
