Test prop/tren with a dht
weeks
1-10 Test prop 100mg every other day or test-e 250mg twice a week
1-8 Tren ace 100mg every other day
1-8 add in a DHT ether 100mg masterone every other day, 50mg winny every day or Provirone 25mg twice a day.(see not one)
6-12 Need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day 30 mins before meals. (see note 2)
6-10 hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm ( see note 3)
10-16 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and 5 pumps pm (see not 4)
10-14 phytoserm-347 1 cap am and 1 cap pm
12-14 forged post cycle 2 caps am and 2 caps pm. (see note 4 for the pct lay out)
10-14 T3-pct (also note 2)
Note 1
You want to add a DHT derivative steroid to the cycle because they work synergistic with nandro's and or progestrines like tren. They lower both estrogen and progesterone yet at the same time add extra aggression to the cycle. They clean up the cycle , lesson bloat and chances of deca/tren dick.. Going into pct your progesterone and estrogen levels will be a lot closer to normal thus making pct a lot more easy..
Note 2. Tren lowers thyroid function and T-3 output. Something highly overlooked because . To get right down to the science of it Tren raises( Thbg ) Ever heard of SHBG sex hormone binding globin. Which locks onto test and renders it useless and unable to lock onto the receptors and do its job. Well THBG is Thyroid hormone binding globin and this locks onto thyroid hormones within the blood and stops them from being able to do the job they need to do.. Every major blood test has this on them but its so over looked because to few people know anything about it.
people do lose body fat when on trent and its effects in this Area go largely un noticed till after the cycle when you start to quickly gain fat. Need2slin will help recover this as well as give you a better insulin response to food and give you the ability to add more carbs to your diet and not get fat from them. you can read about it by doing a google search or on the product page. The science is there my man.
Second half of note 2. T3-pct
This product will help finish up the job of total throid hormone recovery. Also some people like to run a low does of T3 with their tren cycle and thus this product wiuld be a must if one were to do so during the cycle. This product is designed to "recover" the thyroid and all hormone functions. Other products are designed to "heighten" the thyroids functions sending it into overdrive. THis would be products like alpha T2 a product that IMO is powerful enough to cause shut down of the thyroids normal mechanisms and you would want to run T-3-pct after a product like this.. Keep in mind this is not a knock on the product but rather a complement and in all honesty I feel alpha t2 would be a much better alternative to use on cycle with tren to compensate for the lower thyroid functions. If you are going to use t3 you should just all out use it and use it for fat lose. for something like this AT2 would be better IMO.. Need2slin and A2T can all be used in conjunction with each other as they work along completely different messaging signals and create reactions that differ from each other a great deal.
Note 3.
Hcgenerate prevents major shut down and keeps the brain signalling to your nuts to keep producing their on test. It also counteracts the bodies homeostasis mechanism like SHBG which is what the body uses to render androgens useless in the body. This is why you noticed the closer to the end of a cycle you get the more the gains taper off. This somewhat prevents this... Hcgenerate also raises sex drive through the rough and no one wants to lose this. It also adds gains to the cycle and if you take one look around you will know this product is the real mother fucking deal
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Note 4.
first off nolvadex is not a option after a cycle of tren as nolvadex up regulates the progesterone receptors compounding any problems with this during pct. I suspect clomid mite do the same but only have literature proving nolva does.
Forma-stanzol is a Ai, A serm, And more. It lowers both estrogen and progesterone which is what you will need and it also blocks estrogen too. The 78-benzo in the product is able to brake the blood brain barer and cause the brain to release gNRH which singles the brain to release lh which causes the balls to create more test. Plus the chestnut seed extract has a cool effect in that what ever place it is applied to it pulls the water out of the skin and pushes it into the muscles giving you thiner skin and fuller muscles.
The phytoserm-347 is both clinically and user tested proven to raise test and lower estrogen. In combo with the forma it makes the perfect pct to get them balls nice and big and test above normal not just back to normal. This goes a long ass way in helping you to keep the gains.
Forged post cycle does a little bit of everything that all the other products do and I like to toss it in there for the extra insurance but it is optional I will be honest.
NOW PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only a fool runs any steroid cycle without having
1. A preventative Ai run throughout the cycle if you are pron to gyno . For on cycle prevention the number one best choice for Ai's is a Type 2 suicidal aromatase inhibitor
firstlets understand the differences between the two. suicide aromatase inhibitors are actually steroidal compounds, while regular AI's (like letro and A-dex) are non-steroidal drugs ( no I don't mean STEROID LIKE YOU ARE HOPING LMOA but almost yes)
Of course, there are some similarities between the two types of AIs...both Type suicidal and non suicidal AIs mimic normal substrates (essentially androgens), allowing them to compete with the substrate for access to the binding site on the aromatase enzyme. After this binding, the next step is where things differ greatly for the two different types of AI's. In the case of a suicide aromatase inhibitors the noncompetitive inhibitor will bind, and the enzyme initiates a sequence of hydroxylation
( hence the name 4-hydroxy given to formastane's molecular nomenclaturel name a drug that is in the product forma-stanzol formally knonw as letheron TM ) ; this hydroxylation produces an
unbreakable covalent bond between the inhibitor and the enzyme protein. Now, enzyme activity is permanently blocked; even if all unattached inhibitor is removed. Aromatase enzyme activity can only be restored by new enzyme synthesis.
But why ARE TYPE 2 Ai's best for on cycle. Well they do not negativity impact cholesterol levels like Other Ai's do. They also do not lower IGF1 like others do and furthermore they lower shbg thus raising free test. Lastly they can do other things such as lower the conversion of test to dht, and also lower prolactin and or progesterone.. All depending on the AI. Some do more or less then the others.
Liquid Stane 30mL 25mg/mL - Aromatase Inhibitors - Research Chemicals Liquid Stane (Aromasin) from chemicalneed.com is a Type 2 Ai and 15mg every other day will prevent a rate from getting gyno even if we pumped him full of 10grams of test a day. A very powerful and pure product worth investing it if you do not want to have speed bags for tits.
2. A powerful Emergency Ai Like Letro. These ai's crush estrogen and should only be used in extreme cases . 2.5mg every day to start and taper down quickly after the gyno dissipates. Then switch over to a type II ai. Again also remeber that you never want to end/finish with a type 1 ai or even nolva/clomid because a rebound effect is inevitable. So no matter what you must always have both on hand.
3rd. Laslty if you are going to run tren or a nandro/progesterone basted comboun then you must always have Prami On hand as well. Prami is the strongest of all the prolactin inhibitors and is also one of the only ones that hold well in liquid form and does not fall out of suspension during shipping.
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