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string_bean00
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why don't you be a real man and do some shots, and none of that pussy dxm shit
As long as your're not under the influence of the drug when working out, I don't see a problem. Of course, it depends on the amount took. Might be pertinent depending on the amout you took, the purity of the drug, and the amount you ingested.
Used in light/moderate doses (not recreational), there should be no negative side effects with DXM.
Be careful, though.All this shit's made illicitly, so beware of what side reactions take place in the synthesis of the drug -- it's not always the drug per se that caused the dameage. Look at the production of Agent Orange. The shit's fine... except for a small side reacton which casues mortal injuries, even in 60 PPM.
My word of advice: it you can only find it on the street, it's not worth the risk. Buy the time narcotics reach normal people like us, the shit's been cut to hell and you have no idea how it was made, how many side-reactions were overlooked, and what it's been cut with on the way to your place of residence.
MAKE SURE if you're doing the cough syrup method, do MAD resaearch, as there's only one or two liquid mixtures OTC that contain ONLY DXM. Remember, 5+ grams of tylenol or aspirin is borderlinging potential kidney damage. I'd suggest checking out www.bluelight.com for more details from those much more 'in the know' than us here.
Used in light/moderate doses (not recreational), there should be no negative side effects with DXM.
Be careful, though.All this shit's made illicitly, so beware of what side reactions take place in the synthesis of the drug -- it's not always the drug per se that caused the dameage. Look at the production of Agent Orange. The shit's fine... except for a small side reacton which casues mortal injuries, even in 60 PPM.
My word of advice: it you can only find it on the street, it's not worth the risk. Buy the time narcotics reach normal people like us, the shit's been cut to hell and you have no idea how it was made, how many side-reactions were overlooked, and what it's been cut with on the way to your place of residence.
MAKE SURE if you're doing the cough syrup method, do MAD resaearch, as there's only one or two liquid mixtures OTC that contain ONLY DXM. Remember, 5+ grams of tylenol or aspirin is borderlinging potential kidney damage. I'd suggest checking out www.bluelight.com for more details from those much more 'in the know' than us here.
DieselGunz
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wtf is DMX?
GoldenDelicious
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i can recall cases i have been adjacent to where a mere 4 grams of paracetanol (aminocetophen) has resulted in liver failure and required a liver transplant.samoth said:As long as your're not under the influence of the drug when working out, I don't see a problem. Of course, it depends on the amount took. Might be pertinent depending on the amout you took, the purity of the drug, and the amount you ingested.
Used in light/moderate doses (not recreational), there should be no negative side effects with DXM.
Be careful, though.All this shit's made illicitly, so beware of what side reactions take place in the synthesis of the drug -- it's not always the drug per se that caused the dameage. Look at the production of Agent Orange. The shit's fine... except for a small side reacton which casues mortal injuries, even in 60 PPM.
My word of advice: it you can only find it on the street, it's not worth the risk. Buy the time narcotics reach normal people like us, the shit's been cut to hell and you have no idea how it was made, how many side-reactions were overlooked, and what it's been cut with on the way to your place of residence.
MAKE SURE if you're doing the cough syrup method, do MAD resaearch, as there's only one or two liquid mixtures OTC that contain ONLY DXM. Remember, 5+ grams of tylenol or aspirin is borderlinging potential kidney damage. I'd suggest checking out www.bluelight.com for more details from those much more 'in the know' than us here.
i would be very cautious when taking stupidly large amounts of over the counter medication. biiiiiig fuckups happen this way
GoldenDelicious
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getting laid is often a lot more difficult than getting your hands on drugs.Smurfy said:
last night, for example, the solo sex tourist pickup warrior known as "Golden" was out and about on the town, and he received intense attention from a mere *3* females...and the 2 that didnt make me want to throw my guts up and lose another 11lbs looked like oompa loompas
ill not nauseate you by describing what the third genetic throwback looked like, but lets say...only a chernobyl survivor could stomach that
its a cruel world we live in
i just wanna know if oding on the couhg syrup with only dxm will affect bbing/weightliftingsamoth said:As long as your're not under the influence of the drug when working out, I don't see a problem. Of course, it depends on the amount took. Might be pertinent depending on the amout you took, the purity of the drug, and the amount you ingested.
Used in light/moderate doses (not recreational), there should be no negative side effects with DXM.
Be careful, though.All this shit's made illicitly, so beware of what side reactions take place in the synthesis of the drug -- it's not always the drug per se that caused the dameage. Look at the production of Agent Orange. The shit's fine... except for a small side reacton which casues mortal injuries, even in 60 PPM.
My word of advice: it you can only find it on the street, it's not worth the risk. Buy the time narcotics reach normal people like us, the shit's been cut to hell and you have no idea how it was made, how many side-reactions were overlooked, and what it's been cut with on the way to your place of residence.
MAKE SURE if you're doing the cough syrup method, do MAD resaearch, as there's only one or two liquid mixtures OTC that contain ONLY DXM. Remember, 5+ grams of tylenol or aspirin is borderlinging potential kidney damage. I'd suggest checking out www.bluelight.com for more details from those much more 'in the know' than us here.
bran987
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i remember when i did that in college with my friend, it was real hard for us to chew. we forgot how kinda, and how to pee. but the chewing part, if you don't eat that'll affect your diet for the day, and you'll probably be groggy the day after and not 100% on lifting especially if you're trying to break new ground every week with higher weight, but other than that probably not.SublimeZM said:
my science education ended in 10th grade though.
SublimeZM said:
Comletely depends on if it's medicinal doses or recreatonal doses.
If it's OTC meds with DXM in it (for cough suppressant, usually about 10mg) then you have no worries. Hoever, of you're looking for a fifth plateau with 650 mg of straight DX, I would strongly advise agaist it.
so drinking a bottle of cough syrup would deplete muscles?samoth said:Comletely depends on if it's medicinal doses or recreatonal doses.
If it's OTC meds with DXM in it (for cough suppressant, usually about 10mg) then you have no worries. Hoever, of you're looking for a fifth plateau with 650 mg of straight DX, I would strongly advise agaist it.
DXM: Dextromethorphan [125-71-3]
Synonyms: (+)-cis-1,3,4,9,10,10a-hexahydro-6-methoxy-11-methyl-2H-10,4a-iminoethanophenanthrene; 3-methoxy-17-methyl-(9alpha,13alpha,14alpha)-morphinan; Benylin DM; D-1,2,3,9,10,10a-Hexahydro-6-methoxy-11-methyl-4H-10,4a-iminoethanophenanthrene; D-3-Methoxy-N-methylmorphinan; Dextromethorphan; DXM; DXM Free Base; Romilar CF;
C18H25NO
125-71-3
X1001953-1
ANTITUSSIVE
271.4016
HTH
Synonyms: (+)-cis-1,3,4,9,10,10a-hexahydro-6-methoxy-11-methyl-2H-10,4a-iminoethanophenanthrene; 3-methoxy-17-methyl-(9alpha,13alpha,14alpha)-morphinan; Benylin DM; D-1,2,3,9,10,10a-Hexahydro-6-methoxy-11-methyl-4H-10,4a-iminoethanophenanthrene; D-3-Methoxy-N-methylmorphinan; Dextromethorphan; DXM; DXM Free Base; Romilar CF;
C18H25NO
125-71-3
X1001953-1
ANTITUSSIVE
271.4016
HTH
samoth said:DXM: Dextromethorphan [125-71-3]
Synonyms: (+)-cis-1,3,4,9,10,10a-hexahydro-6-methoxy-11-methyl-2H-10,4a-iminoethanophenanthrene; 3-methoxy-17-methyl-(9alpha,13alpha,14alpha)-morphinan; Benylin DM; D-1,2,3,9,10,10a-Hexahydro-6-methoxy-11-methyl-4H-10,4a-iminoethanophenanthrene; D-3-Methoxy-N-methylmorphinan; Dextromethorphan; DXM; DXM Free Base; Romilar CF;
C18H25NO
125-71-3
X1001953-1
ANTITUSSIVE
271.4016
HTH
that didnt help
TheProject
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I like to check in here periodically to see what OTC medication will be locked up in cases next.
Thanks EF!
Thanks EF!
HI Project.
So, Sub, in essence what you are asking is if tripping balls on DXM is catabolic>? If that's your question, then no, simply tripping on DXM will not eat away at your muscles. But that doesnt mean that it wont have negative repurcussions for your training, diet, and general health and well being. But, if you dont care about that stuff, then do whatever. But it's not really smart.
So, Sub, in essence what you are asking is if tripping balls on DXM is catabolic>? If that's your question, then no, simply tripping on DXM will not eat away at your muscles. But that doesnt mean that it wont have negative repurcussions for your training, diet, and general health and well being. But, if you dont care about that stuff, then do whatever. But it's not really smart.
string_bean00
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drinking is better overall
more social, get laid more often etc
just keep it to weekends only and you still make gains
do it you pussy
more social, get laid more often etc
just keep it to weekends only and you still make gains
do it you pussy
string_bean00
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SublimeZM said:
she means in the same way sleeping too late can have negative effect on diet
working too much
studying too much
drinking dxm and missing a workout
etc
everrything in moderation
string_bean00
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dude stop over analyzing, have fun
honestly, alcohol is as bad. you need MORE of it to get a buzz and it's basically poison to your system. it dehydrates you also.string_bean00 said:
Look, for someone who seems "highly concerned" with training, diet, being healthy and having "big glorious muscles", Sub, you should steer clear of these kinds of substances if you are truly trying to achieve a great physique. And from what I know about you, you are - so why put something into your body that you know is not healthy?
string_bean00
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Smurfy said:
I know alcohol is as bad, its worse I'd say
I just trying to say that anything is ok in moderation and you can't totally devote your life to your physique, you have to live
string_bean00
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Smurfy said:
word
im a diehard mon-fri, lifting eating etc
sats are the day to get sloshed!!!!!
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Col_Klink
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lol @ people suggesting alcohol instead. Ethanol is a toxin that attacks every organ in your body, heart, liver, brain, skin, eyes (yes, you will cause inflexibility of the lens of your eyes with drinking ethanol). So yeah, destroy your intestinal tract, mess up your organs, all for the ability to alter your reality.
Its one thing to be against altering your reality but the huge damage done by alcohol to the organism is, well retarded.
The dextromethorphan can be used AS a bodybuilding aid in low dose. It is the strongest cough suppressant on the market and it actually AT LOW DOSE is the most effective appetite suppressant as well.
So you have to view the compound in unique dosages. If you take a large dose, expect a lag time afterwards, not like puking up bile for a day after you drank too much, but just a feeling of returning to reality after altering yourself.
The dxm molecule as studied by research affects FIVE brain receptor sites, not merely one, it affects serotonin and dopamine which is pretty amazing the psychopharmacology involved with this.
The argument of intentionally overdosing on a medication is really a matter of perspective, one can make the argument with any compound that intoxicates an organism. Alcohol may provide beneficial effects in one drink per day, but most dont stop at one.
Well, if your goal is to alter your reality, something that man has sought since the dawn of time. Then you can pick your poison. All things, aspirin, alcohol, tylenol, everything is a poison, they inhibit a metabolic process. Like a beta blocker or a calcium channel blocker, they block the pumps in the membranes of the cellular walls. They inhibit reuptake of molecules, elements, neurotransmitters.
The system poison, some poisons are worse than others and alcohol is a potent toxin. DXM is not. The actual cases attributed to dxm, even with a freak five deaths last year due to taking straight powder from one source. The number of deaths from dxm is still less than 20 worldwide despite tens of millions of users. Compare that to alcohol which takes 20,000 people on the road alone, not too mention the effects and ills it causes through suicide, violence, liver and heart damage.
Their is no comparison as far as safety LOGICALLY between the two.
DXM can make you feel happy, make you smile, the more you intoxicate the organism, the stronger the effects. And most classify it using a plateau system. From happy and bubbly, plateau one. To where you take enough with dosing to enter Sigma level brain waves. Sigma level. Which brainwaves show a distinct pattern and most users report a realistic interaction with spirits, aliens and similar beings that seem all too real. Most would not want to go that high for fear of an ontological breakdown.
As far as bodybuilding, the use of it can be used, depending on weight, 250 milligrams will aid in appetitie suppression with zero effects of intoxication or damage to the organism. You will just feel a bit happier, taken every six hours or before meals. If you go higher than that, you may enter a 2nd plateau which is more akin to taking extacy with some decision making processes affected.
It really is much better than alcohol, but as others have noted. Acetaminophen is in many OTC preparations so you have to be smart enough to take only a dxm preparation or risk taking too much of a toxic poision called tylenol.
A stronger poison than alcohol or dxm. So pick your poison, dont combine them.
Dxm is relatively benign as a drug component with no long term damage proven, some hypothesized but none proven as of yet despite many D.A.R.E. or antidrug people have tried
Its one thing to be against altering your reality but the huge damage done by alcohol to the organism is, well retarded.
The dextromethorphan can be used AS a bodybuilding aid in low dose. It is the strongest cough suppressant on the market and it actually AT LOW DOSE is the most effective appetite suppressant as well.
So you have to view the compound in unique dosages. If you take a large dose, expect a lag time afterwards, not like puking up bile for a day after you drank too much, but just a feeling of returning to reality after altering yourself.
The dxm molecule as studied by research affects FIVE brain receptor sites, not merely one, it affects serotonin and dopamine which is pretty amazing the psychopharmacology involved with this.
The argument of intentionally overdosing on a medication is really a matter of perspective, one can make the argument with any compound that intoxicates an organism. Alcohol may provide beneficial effects in one drink per day, but most dont stop at one.
Well, if your goal is to alter your reality, something that man has sought since the dawn of time. Then you can pick your poison. All things, aspirin, alcohol, tylenol, everything is a poison, they inhibit a metabolic process. Like a beta blocker or a calcium channel blocker, they block the pumps in the membranes of the cellular walls. They inhibit reuptake of molecules, elements, neurotransmitters.
The system poison, some poisons are worse than others and alcohol is a potent toxin. DXM is not. The actual cases attributed to dxm, even with a freak five deaths last year due to taking straight powder from one source. The number of deaths from dxm is still less than 20 worldwide despite tens of millions of users. Compare that to alcohol which takes 20,000 people on the road alone, not too mention the effects and ills it causes through suicide, violence, liver and heart damage.
Their is no comparison as far as safety LOGICALLY between the two.
DXM can make you feel happy, make you smile, the more you intoxicate the organism, the stronger the effects. And most classify it using a plateau system. From happy and bubbly, plateau one. To where you take enough with dosing to enter Sigma level brain waves. Sigma level. Which brainwaves show a distinct pattern and most users report a realistic interaction with spirits, aliens and similar beings that seem all too real. Most would not want to go that high for fear of an ontological breakdown.
As far as bodybuilding, the use of it can be used, depending on weight, 250 milligrams will aid in appetitie suppression with zero effects of intoxication or damage to the organism. You will just feel a bit happier, taken every six hours or before meals. If you go higher than that, you may enter a 2nd plateau which is more akin to taking extacy with some decision making processes affected.
It really is much better than alcohol, but as others have noted. Acetaminophen is in many OTC preparations so you have to be smart enough to take only a dxm preparation or risk taking too much of a toxic poision called tylenol.
A stronger poison than alcohol or dxm. So pick your poison, dont combine them.
Dxm is relatively benign as a drug component with no long term damage proven, some hypothesized but none proven as of yet despite many D.A.R.E. or antidrug people have tried
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Col_Klink
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spongebob said:
food falls under the definition of a drug and certain drugs prolong life like antibiotics, but none of us are getting out of this one alive, except for me, see ya suckers
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Col_Klink
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spongebob said:
I prescribe drugs, does that make me a murderer?
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Col_Klink
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spongebob said:
Guns dont kill people, guns from Florida kill people!
Well I dont believe I will die so it won't happen, matter of perspective, but if you believe you will, you probably will, prove me wrong.
So are you saying taking a drug to shrink a tumor is akin to putting a gun to your head and firing off three rounds or is your position more akin to praying to God to win the lottery without ever buying a ticket?
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Col_Klink
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spongebob said:
define drug use
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Gambino
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fuck that shit just smoke cheebs
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Col_Klink
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Ludendorf said:
yeah which is against the law and risk being shown in the Leelanau papers, I think not, I prefer to be above the law
Spongebob, my mom is dead so your definition is moot
seizer
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this is a KILLER appetite supressant. it will be very hard to even scarf down you're food for atleast a day after doing it.
working out while having lingering effects actually isnt that bad. in fact, it makes the movements smoother. but you're tolerance to pain is none, and that's why. So, its good because you can pump out som good poundages but cant really tell if you're over doing it. You dont feel pain...and you want to be able to feel pain, its a human tool.. Instead, i recommend doing some aerobics ...
If it were me and I wanted to get BIGGER, I would not do dxm. You think you can compete with it's appetite supressant effects, but you cant lol.Force feeding is even hard. So maybe liquify you're meals to make it less of a task if you want to do this often. Otherwise, i'd stick to mushrooms. You cant go wrong with mushrooms, ever.
working out while having lingering effects actually isnt that bad. in fact, it makes the movements smoother. but you're tolerance to pain is none, and that's why. So, its good because you can pump out som good poundages but cant really tell if you're over doing it. You dont feel pain...and you want to be able to feel pain, its a human tool.. Instead, i recommend doing some aerobics ...
If it were me and I wanted to get BIGGER, I would not do dxm. You think you can compete with it's appetite supressant effects, but you cant lol.Force feeding is even hard. So maybe liquify you're meals to make it less of a task if you want to do this often. Otherwise, i'd stick to mushrooms. You cant go wrong with mushrooms, ever.
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Col_Klink
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spongebob said:
Just admit you are wrong, humbling yourself is much less embarassing. The facts are clear and anyone can research the facts I have stated and post the references, I am not going to put the time into doing that b/c I do not care. But using dxm as treatment for neuroprotection in stroke patients, use for treatment of cocaine, heroin and alcohol etc..
The research is all out there. Believe for yourself, many many many antidrug people have been trying to outlaw this molecule for some time. Following the same demonizing effects of johnnny smoking pot for the first time and going crazy.
The scare tactics do not work nowadays thanks to the internet, but just like the idiots that believe that 911 was a plot by the government rather than muslim terrorists. People will believe anything and even if they dont they will repeat it to win an argument at least.
I am sure you may think 911 was a conspiracy same as Pearl Harbor, but dxm and your claims just are flatly incorrect as far as searchable facts. Anyone arguing less than that means they simply are not educated on the matter and letting their bias in.
You may hate dxm, the culture, the users, etc... but that is not science. And hating dxm users would be hilarious because most people have used dxm in the US~~ 95% plus in cough preparations OTC.
Simply misunderstanding and ignorance. I mean, I can argue both sides ten times more effectively than anyone familiar with the subject on scientific grounds.
Sociologically speaking, that is a separate issue of debate, but if one were so inclined and educated themselves they would find the facts I state as fully accredited by scientific studies, not merely social comment by drunks or antidrug nazis.
There is also post user description, those who used it and did not like it. Then at least they can say I do not like it for this reason, but someone just saying well I do not understand it, therefore you are stupid for using it, means they are just stupid b/c they are stupid about the subject.
Seems like stupid people trying to give stupid advice to me. Hey, drink ethanol, I have no idea what subject you are talking about, but drink instead, brilliant answer!
spongebob
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in the edendorf/ophienhiemer study they proved conclusively that drug use kills people. out of 100 test subjects, with 50 given a placebo and 50 given drugs, and after one drug use, all 50 users died within minutes.
the 50 that was given the placebo lived a long and prosperous life.
drug use = DEATH!!@!
the 50 that was given the placebo lived a long and prosperous life.
drug use = DEATH!!@!
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Col_Klink
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SublimeZM said:
It is not catabolic, it does not affect hormonal levels. It simply works upon the brain, in simplest terms compared to alcohol, it is not a damaging substance. It affects your brain.
Like if one were so inclined to be messed up on alcohol, they would take a benzodiazepine instead, it works on the same receptor site as alcohol does in the brain, its alcohol in a pill and skip the toxic effects of alcohol, It does not have a hyperactivity state in the initial ingestion of alcohol, but the brain, its the same scientifically.
The issues of use and administration is that of defining a dosage and that has been all measured about based on milligrams of dxm per kilogram. How much per how much you weigh and give a rough outline. Everyone is different and starting out with a low amount allows for those who may be enzyme deficient to determine that.
Anyways, it is a viable bodybuilding compound in low dose as well as the strongest compound for suppression of cough as it is FDA approved for and completely legal by an act of congress. I can post up the act if I cared. Listen, they cant make it illegal for a long time to come.
It is effective and soon will be available easily and cost effectively online.
Later Sub, a lil birdie said you asked a question but i am outta here
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Col_Klink
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spongebob said:
die sponge DIE!! later bro
needtogetaas
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clinical studys have comfirmed 0 deaths from the use of maryjanespongebob said:
needtogetaas
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sup bro bin a long time.how you doing.talk to billybob much.spongebob said:
needtogetaas
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thta cool.you know I went to jail right.got out a week ago.spongebob said:
bran987
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K Mart knows a lot about DXM?samoth said:I'd suggest checking out www.bluelight.com for more details from those much more 'in the know' than us here.
Col_Klink said:
If you were above the law that means you pefer doing things against it.
Smurfy said:
Unfortunately pullin some strange isn't much of a safe alternative anymore either though.
Better off just jerkin it/ flickin it.
Col_Klink said:
So would you say dxm-containing substances have more health benefits than ones containing alcohol?
TheProject
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Smurfy said:
Hi Smurf.
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