Bros, serious question

[Smokescreen]

And please, no fucking around this is serious. As of a bloodwork I did a few weeks back, things came back like this.

Trigs-191
Cholesterol total - 181
HDL - 8
LDL - 135
T. Chol/HDL Ratio 22.6
LDL/HDL Ration 16.9

If I were to stay at this level, how long will it take for me to have SERIOUS health problems? Or possibly just die!?

 

[Judo Tom]

they only advice i would give you is to stop everything now and go see a doc and get some real professional opinions..

and in the mean time do everything you can to help those levels out and im pretty sure you know what most of them are from that last thread

good luck

 

[Smokescreen]

Well, I was taking winny at the time. 50mgs per day. Now Im' just taking EQ and Test. I need to get re-tested. But I was just wondering, what if I did stay like that. How long before I croak over? 2year? 3 years?

 

[Makavelli]

Well, I was taking winny at the time. 50mgs per day. Now Im' just taking EQ and Test. I need to get re-tested. But I was just wondering, what if I did stay like that. How long before I croak over? 2year? 3 years?

Nobody will be able to give you an accurate answer. Go to the doc. Good luck.

 

[Judo Tom]

honestly it could be tomorrow

you could have a pre existing condition.. you could have an artery that is already close to being clogged.. who knows.. you would need a ton of tests

again i would quit everything and get healthy..

 

[Smokescreen]

I do not have a pre existing condition. I assure you of that. Bros....last summer I was on proviron, sust and tren ED for 5months! I got bloodwork done and all came back so great that my own doc was fucking impressed! EVEYTHING CAME BACK GREAT!!!! He couldn't believe it. He said my bloodwork was better than most people that don't even take gear and think they are eating healthy! Yes! That damn good. Itss jusst that this last test was done while I was on winny at 50mgs ED.

 

[Smokescreen]

And also the fact that I'm bulking and eating everything in site. But clean. No bad fats. Just shitloads of carbs and protein.

 

[Mr. Black]

If I were you run the supps that were talked about before, drop your AAS to an HRT dose (100-200mg/week), eat clean, hit up some cardio and re-test in 6 weeks time.

 

[Smokescreen]

Like Needsize and others here...I do not come off the gear.

 

[Bigdogmikey]

if you stayed of a year or two like that it would start to devolop. You were taking D-bols right???...Remeber im finishing up my masters in nursing so i know what im talking about

 

[Mr. Black]

Like Needsize and others here...I do not come off the gear.

Well you could at least cut back to a minimum dose for a short time and give your body a chance to bounce back...not much point being big if your dead.

 

[wetback]

if you stayed of a year or two like that it would start to devolop. You were taking D-bols right???...Remeber im finishing up my masters in nursing so i know what im talking about

Doens't mean you know what your talking about. There are PLENTY of doctors who have been practicing 6,8,10 years and are clueless to the point of malpractice. I respect what your saying but nobody is 100% golden.

 

[Smokescreen]

I'm on test and EQ right now.

 

[Smokescreen]

Doens't mean you know what your talking about. There are PLENTY of doctors who have been practicing 6,8,10 years and are clueless to the point of malpractice. I respect what your saying but nobody is 100% golden.

No bro! Seriously, everything came back great! I even showed my results a while back here on EF and a lot bros were shocked on how good it was. Shit! My parents got bloodwork done and theirs came back fucking crap!!!! Are they juicing? NO!

 

[Judo Tom]

you could have other conditions that do not show up with blood tests

stuff like heart problem, artery walls, who knows what..

no one will be able to say when something bad will happen..

it could happen when you sleep, while your exercising or after a big meal.. who knows..

dont let an addiction to steroids cause your death or a stroke or something serious

good luck bro! hope everything works out for you!

 

[Outtlaw]

I may be way off here. Bloodwork is not my expertise... but your total cholesterol count doesnt look that bad. The only problems I see are the HDL count and your triglycerides, which could obviously be affected by the gear you were using at the time. I would seriously work on getting those triglycerides down.

 

[Smokescreen]

Tris will go down starting in April. You have my word on that!

 

[DMI]

Do u take any cholesterol sups?

And please, no fucking around this is serious. As of a bloodwork I did a few weeks back, things came back like this.

Trigs-191
Cholesterol total - 181
HDL - 8
LDL - 135
T. Chol/HDL Ratio 22.6
LDL/HDL Ration 16.9

If I were to stay at this level, how long will it take for me to have SERIOUS health problems? Or possibly just die!?

 

[Ulter]

And please, no fucking around this is serious. As of a bloodwork I did a few weeks back, things came back like this.

Trigs-191
Cholesterol total - 181
HDL - 8
LDL - 135
T. Chol/HDL Ratio 22.6
LDL/HDL Ration 16.9

If I were to stay at this level, how long will it take for me to have SERIOUS health problems? Or possibly just die!?

There is no answer to this as everyone has said. Mine have been worse than that for 20 years, no wait, my HDL was 9, so mine was better. My echostress cardiogram is perfect.

 

[Smokescreen]

Do u take any cholesterol sups?

Flax, Hemp Oil and Garlic tabs. I've been off the Tren and winny for already 3 weeks. So who knows if I'm better now. But like I said, now I"m on Test and EQ.

 

[Lowest]

Since you've stopped the winny, my guess is it will rebound very quickly. Winny does the same thing to me. Total cholesterol is always within normal, but last time on winny 50mg/day, my HDL dropped to 9 by the end, LDL was like 100-something. A few weeks after winny stopped, HDL back up to mid-40's. My father is an MD, he didn't like how low it dropped, but since it rebounded quickly and I don't keep it that low for long, he doubts there will be any long-term damage. Also, I have no family history of heart probs, cholesterol probs, etc, and I eat pretty clean usually, so I really don't worry about it.

 

[Smokescreen]

Low to the rescue. What up bro!?

 

[fugetaboutit]

Like Needsize and others here...I do not come off the gear.

Hey bro, everyones' body is different. Isn't staying healthy, and alive, more important?

 

[Guvna]

Since you've stopped the winny, my guess is it will rebound very quickly. Winny does the same thing to me. Total cholesterol is always within normal, but last time on winny 50mg/day, my HDL dropped to 9 by the end, LDL was like 100-something. A few weeks after winny stopped, HDL back up to mid-40's. My father is an MD, he didn't like how low it dropped, but since it rebounded quickly and I don't keep it that low for long, he doubts there will be any long-term damage. Also, I have no family history of heart probs, cholesterol probs, etc, and I eat pretty clean usually, so I really don't worry about it.

I cant beleive every else missed that. I have found (for me and MANY others that winstrol is the SINGLE WORST drug for cholesterol (and some would argue that becuase of this, its the harshest in the heart) there is. Next would be the rest of the 17AAs. Stay on test and EQ. wait one month, and go get rechecked. You should be fine. IF you say your blood was perfect on test and tren, you shouldnt have the first problem in a months time (or at least be back on your way to a good hdl ratio.


IT IS THE 17AA steroids. IF YOU WANT GOOD CHOLESTEROL, DONT TAKE THEM.

I have been preaching this for years, and no one seems to listen. Everyone is so fucking caught up on whether var or winny elevated their ast 3 points or 4, that they dont even bother with the cholesterol.