Bros,please help me out, Chest pains

[huskers1]

I'm only 23 years old. I've been having chest pains for the last 5 days along with pains in my sternum, my lower and side ribs, and my upper erector muscles in my back. Last night i decided to go to the ER. I had my blood pressure checked that said 145/77, which they said was normal but was a little high for me, a chest x-ray which was normal, then ere comes the problem. They did an EKG on me and my lines were inverted instead of going upwards. whichthey said about 10% of patients they see have from birth. They said they wer going to give me a blood test to show my heart enzymes and if they were elevated i must of had a heart attack. They came back normal, but were concerned about my creatine levels being so high. They ey were worried that i was breaking my muscle down too fast with those levels. They're are two kinds of creatine levels, the normal one and the creatine kinase one which was raised significantly in me. I told them i have been taking creatine for 7 years, which they said might have contributed to it, but i also have been taking anavar (which i didn' ttell them)at 40 mg. a day. They then gave me a urine test and my liver and kidney were great. They diagnosed me with chest wall pain and made an appointment with my family physician to get checked in a couple more days. They also told me to rest, stop taking all supplements, an to take aspirin and ibuprofen. Can anyone please give me ay insight on this. I was really nervous about the whole thing. thanks bros

 

[Golfer18--old]

IP anavar, my chest hurts sometimes.....

Did i call it ?

 

[huskers1]

golfer, yup its IP anavar, but why would IP cause this? Do you have more acid reflux by chance?

 

[barbell265]

A little vauge...

Hey Huskers; I am a med. tech and from what I have read I am a little confused. First taking oral creatine monohydrate will not effect your cpk,(creatine phospho kinase), which is an enzye specific for cardiac muscle. Inverted waves are somewhat out of place and a point to ponder but not to be concerned over yet. They can not tell if your kidneys or liver are ok by doing a urine test the are late stage indicators, although accurate. They must have done a basic metabolic profile, ck, (creatine kinase), which will be elevated in serious lifters; my last ck after a hard day at the gym was 1,555, and maybe a troponin.

Drop me a line with a little more info and I'll help you out. There are also other medical professionals on the board, one guy I have a very strong feeling is a Rn and a couple other posts I have read lead me to believe possibly some physicians or P.A.'s. If things shape up to wherre you may have a cardiac deficency, possibly genetic like a murmor, the best advice I can give you would be to see a cardiac doc.

Later for now....
Barbell265...

 

[duckster34]

hey bro, first off the ekg is an electrical tracing of your heart, some people have an irregular tracing due to alot of stuff, ami is not diagnosed by 12 lead alone, ck-mb levels cpk levels and the such can be elevated due to stress on the muscles,IE: heavy lifting, fever with chills,etc. they need to do a troponin level along with the cpk-ck-mb and total ck levels for them to accurately diagnose an ami(heart attack) any md in his right mind will not dx ami without all the proper test as mentioned above, the chem panel they probaly did will show alot, sodium, pot, mag levels and so on. creatine(cre-atine levels) if i am not mistaken, show kidney function along with bun levels also for kidneys so it shows alot.
you were probaly dx'd with costachondritis or chest wall pain because they could not find anything to show that you had an AMI. if the problem presist i would have my md rerun the test with a tropin level along with the cpk-ck-mb and total ck levels if you are worried about a heart attack, but these levels of cpk, ck-mb etc can be elevated due to a number of reason.
take the ibuprofen, warm compresses to the area, rest and see if thgey go away. if i were a betting man i would guess that you have a minor strain and thats the root of your problem, if it presist have it checked again, for your safety and peace of mind,later duckster

 

[natedogg03]

How do u guys like his anavar?

 

[ragin']

hope you're okay, bro. i'd tell your reg physician and schedule a couple appts. in the next few weeks so he can monitor you.

 

[HEALTHFREAK]

i wouldnt worry to much. Alot of time the mind can play games with you, making you think you are much worse off than you are, the more you think of it the worse you get. Are you under more stress than usual? When I encounter more mental stress than normal I get all kinds of weird shit, chest pains, short breath etc.. Ill go to the doc and after a battery of tests I am told that I am above and beyond healthy. It could also be a strain or pull do to heavy lifting. Stay strong, Think Strong.

 

[huskers1]

thanks bros

I appeciate your help bros, it helps a lot, it probably is more mind games than anything, i've been taking ibuprofen and aspirin and the sides have lessened a bit, so hopefully everything continues to get better. Thanks again fellas

 

[LONE_AZ]

Don't worry about the abnormal EKG. Almost everyone is abnormal in some way. And do not worry about Creatine either that is normal for what you are doing. You have to remember, when you have abnormal tests in the ER they have to inform you of the worst case scenario for liability reasons. If they don't and you walk out and Die than they are in a world of shit. Just relax and take it easy for a few days things should take care of themselves. If they don't they see your regular physician to investigate further.

 

[the UNDERTAKER]

FIRST AND FOREMOST..........SEE A CARDIOLOGIST!!! don't fuck around!!!! BUT ......it may be something simple like( don't laugh fuckers) you have a rib out. seriously i have hurt my back good lifting before and spent MORE than my share on a chiropractors table. i was driving with the customary one hand on top of the wheel and my chest started to hurt worse and worse.felt like someone was stabbing me in the heart everytime i took a breath.and i couldn't even get a deep breath.my upper back hurt from my skin right through the middle of my chest out to the other side.thought i was going to fuckin have a heart attack.shortness of breath too.i tried too deal with it for about 2 days then in the morning i opened my eyes and decided it was time to see a doctor. when i got out of bed to take a piss i bent over to lift the toilet seat and SNAPPPPP!!!! the fucker popped back in. felt likr someone punched me. no more pain no more pressure nice deep breaths everything was fine. i talked to my chiro. and he said" yep, you'll have that" . still happens but i don't worry. plus every vertabrae is connected to different parts of your body you'd be suprised different ways you feel when they aren't in right. sorry for writing a book................peace and hope everything is fine

 

[huskers1]

kind of does feel like i have a rib out

The pain all started about a week ago, the day after an intense leg workout. I'm going to my doc today to get referred to a cardiologist to see whats up. i don't think the emrgency room doctors would have let me leave if they thougt i had a serious heart problem or heart attack, since there s a lot of liabilty in letting someone leave who's had a heart attack or could, what do guys think

 

[LONE_AZ]

Is it getting better or worse? If worse than go see your Doc. It is not you heart that is the problem it is probably something else. Most likely something very benign. If you worry about it than it will feel like it is getting worse in that case go see you Doc to put you mind at ease.

 

[CASS]

I think this post alsp proves he isnt ART , as in it he states he is 23, now ART is not 23 or 24 or 25.

 

[joeyz123]

First of all I wouldnt let them scare you with the inverted QRS story.............you can have a pretty normal heart and have this, or maybe the doc or nurse didnt know jack shit and were reading the wrong EKG lead (its happened). I think everyone already said it, Go see a cardiologist or an electrophysiologist and have it checked. I dont really think at 23 you would just now be popping up with symptoms. Was this a larger truama center or a small community hopital? Sometimes you have to consider that smaller hospitals dont see the variety of cases that Larger ones do, so there is often some mistaken diagnosis. I work in cardopulmonary medicine in a large trauma center and in the last 5 years have only had one person your age in for something similar to this, but it was from years of meth abuse.

 

[Lukester69]

Reguardless of who he is this is a legit problem, I too had similar symptoms linger after an IP var cycle. It certainly isn't a pain along the lines of angina, more like muscle pain when I would breath in deeply, no breathing problems though. I would like to hear if anyone else had similar symptoms from IP orals.

 

[ROLGOR]

Dude you need to be straight with your doc though. Your makeing them work with one hand tied behind their back. Just tell him you do not want it in your record but level with him. It could save you a lot of trouble in the future. Good luck

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

I always tell my doc everything I'm taking. They can't legally say anything unless there is a court order. You'll probably get a lecture about how bad AAS are but at least they'll be able to diagnose you.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

you guys do realize that this post is from April 18th don't you?

 

[thelegacy]

huskers1 you took the word idiot to a whole new level, you moron