Broke my AAS cherry with 120 mg or so of Tren Ace

[dmessina7]

what do u expect to happen in two weeks? why do u think at 330lbs and 35%bf an aas is going to help you? why are u chugging gallons of milk with protein? why would u want your body to be put in an anabolic state are your weight? do u want to weigh 400lbs? what site did u actually use during your 'six week aas info binge"

Eat right and do cardio. graduate from walking to cycling to running. burn that fat off you. your 'crusade' of getting back in shape is going to take time. like a year or two. aas doesnt take fat guys and turn them into barry bonds. thats not how it works. im sorry dude. ur just all wrong here but i wish u the best.....

 

[tornpie]

what do u expect to happen in two weeks? why do u think at 330lbs and 35%bf an aas is going to help you? why are u chugging gallons of milk with protein? why would u want your body to be put in an anabolic state are your weight? do u want to weigh 400lbs? what site did u actually use during your 'six week aas info binge"

Eat right and do cardio. graduate from walking to cycling to running. burn that fat off you. your 'crusade' of getting back in shape is going to take time. like a year or two. aas doesnt take fat guys and turn them into barry bonds. thats not how it works. im sorry dude. ur just all wrong here but i wish u the best.....

I could take off 100 lbs or more in two months, but I would sacrifice a lot of lean mass. In high school I tried to wrestle 189 but ended up being so weak by the end of the season it was pathetic. I want to focus on both lean mass increase and body fat decrease simultaneously. I think the mistake most people make is focusing totally on one or the other. The lean muscle seems to make it easier to burn fat and keep it off.

I've always lost weight when I eat more actually. From what I've found out about the tren it seems to me that it can take whatever is thrown at it.

You know I could always say the hell with fat loss and go straight for strength and power. My body is built for pure power and has sustained tremendous impacts and trauma resulting in no broken bones among other things. I am actually a bit of a runt compared to many in my family and lifting friends. I come from a very sturdy line of farmers and usually am around some seriously strong guys when in the gym. I feel ashamed watching some of them put up at least 400 sometimes going for 600 lb benches. The family in particular (which is very anti-drug btw), are very big. Putting up this kind of weight isn't even something they work hard at. That's what I get for being a city boy.

 

[2evil]

I have to call bullshit on this thread. It's someones alter or something. It's the only thing that makes sense...

 

[Captain FT]

I'm not too concerned about AI or PCT for the moment. I am on selegiline(Emsam 9mg/24hr transdermal) already, have plenty of B6 and dl-phenylalanine to cause dopamine induce prolactin inhibition at will. The endocrinologist seemed to want to wait it out before writing a script for dostinex. I can get either PCP or Endo to write for nolva. Many that I've talked to didn't use a PCT cycle, so at least for my initial first two week cycle, I want to see how it is without PCT. In fact, I am a bit more interested in the cortisol receptor properties of tren and want to witness first hand the anti-catabolic effect of post tren muscle retention.

My age is 32, height is 5'11", weight is 330, bf around 30-35%, obviously male. Have been fairly athletic most of my life. Wrestled, played football, but was more of a scholar. What actually led me to doing a tren only cycle and actually getting me to try it is the science of it. Furthermore, I think cortisol definitely played(still possibly plays) a role in my athletic and personal plateaus in my life.

You sound like you've read a lot.

That being said, I would trust the advise of joe d, needto, swole, Southern Lord, Nelson, Ross, and many many other good bros over any medical journal I've read. They have experience, and while everyone reacts differently, their experience is priceless.

I would seriously stop experimenting on yourself, especially with a home brew.

 

[tornpie]

BTW, one thing that is impossible to find in researching all of this is a consensus. The only consensus I've found about tren is that it is best with test and the fina cough issue. The only thing I think is reasonable advice anymore is find what works and if something doesn't try something else. I like the idea of the short tren cycle. There are sites that seem to think it is not a bad idea for beginners to start with tren if doing a short cycle. Usually they recommend stacking with test or d-bol, both of which I am looking forward to trying.

I figured the only way I'm going to know for sure is to just go ahead and try it. I am pretty sure I won't get it perfect this time but it would be naive to think that I know every possible reaction my body will give me. Sometimes there's a leap of faith involved with this sort of thing.

I'm hoping to achieve a few pound lean mass gain couple with the loss of a few pounds. Ideally, 2 on/2 off or even up to 6 on/6 off tren based cycles over an entire year would add up to a hell of a lot of lean mass replacing fat. I may do a longer deca or eq based cycle to focus more on endurance later in the summer. If I have the money, primo and/or var may come in. However, I'm still leaning a little more towards the shorter boldenone acetate proprionate and/or nandrolone phenylproprionate esters though for a shorter cycle. I've also looked at playing with clen, t3, keto, and dnp.

 

[d_rson]

I'm still leaning a little more towards the shorter boldenone acetate proprionate

Better research that one. Trust me, research it. Don't think you want to run short ester bolds.

This thread makes me feel like I have entered into another dimension. You make it almost sound feasible what you are doing, like you've somehow convinced yourself. But yet it's got to be one of the most pointless things I have ever heard - 2 week tren (of varied wimsical dosing) to see how you "react" to a tren only cycle...

And nolva and tren don't mix. Probably missed that in your 6 weeks of reading.

 

[goal245]

Ideally, 2 on/2 off or even up to 6 on/6 off tren based cycles over an entire year would add up to a hell of a lot of lean mass replacing fat.

At your body fat percentage taking an OTC aromatase inhibitor and following a good diet/ training programm will result in better results without the side effects then doing the above approach. You have high estrogen right now because fat produces aromatase which converts test into estro. The weeks between your tren cycle you will have no androgens in your system because of hpta shut down and will only have estrogen which will lead to more fat gain and loss of muscle.

 

[dr.shavargo]

your probably pinning straight into fat at 35% bf

2 weeks is going to nothing for you, nor should you ever had started until your atleast 15%bf

 

[zagdawg22]

i like it. keep updating us, and if you have some before and afters lets see em. otherwise im in!

 

[tornpie]

Better research that one. Trust me, research it. Don't think you want to run short ester bolds.

This thread makes me feel like I have entered into another dimension. You make it almost sound feasible what you are doing, like you've somehow convinced yourself. But yet it's got to be one of the most pointless things I have ever heard - 2 week tren (of varied wimsical dosing) to see how you "react" to a tren only cycle...

And nolva and tren don't mix. Probably missed that in your 6 weeks of reading.

Never said anything about nolva. If you meant nandrolone, yeah it doesn't seem like a good mix.