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Bridging with sarms
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xtremegain
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In for answers as well. I was planning my aas cycle right after mini pct for sarms
Sent from my SGH-M919V using EliteFitness
Sent from my SGH-M919V using EliteFitness
My bloods came back total T 994 and LH at 7.4 while on a sarms triple stack. Doesn't seem so suppressive to me... But everyone is different and I'd get bloods done before cycling
I use ostarine in every pct and bridge with osta/s4/gw. They work great suppression is light
I use ostarine in every pct and bridge with osta/s4/gw. They work great suppression is light
infraredline
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How long has it been since your last steroid cycle?
give yourself 1-2 weeks and then start your new cycle...
Your T came back high because you were still on! Yes, suppression is light, but using anything even slightly suppressive on PCT is not the best way to go if you want full, fast recovery.
If you do, you'll be suppressed within a matter of days. So why are you bothering with a PCT before hand?
He was not "on" in any way. He was only on sarms which will not show high testosterone like AAS does. His numbers were 100% his own hormone levels
Right, but SARMS increases T levels. So THAT was what he was on. Once he went off, he'd be suppressed.
False...Sorry, but you are wrong on this one. SARMS absolutely do not increase test levels, nor do they show up as elevated levels on a blood test.
SARMS (selective androgen receptor modulators) are not any derivative of testosterone or any male hormone unlike AAS. This is also the same reason that they are undetectable by current tests (though they are in the process of trying to develop a test for them). It makes them very popular with natty competitors since they are undetectable and will not show a false positive or elevated hormone levels
What are you saying? That SARMS doesn't effect T levels but just elevates them naturally and keeps them elevated? I'd like to see one legitimate study that shows that to be the case.
Sarms don't increase T levels, this isn't anything new. And if they did, why would my LH be that high? Last time I checked, exogenous hormones that elevated my T levels bombed my LH... 7.4 is in the high end and FSH at 4.0. Don't know what you have against sarms, but I've run them in pct and between cycles time after time and I've never had trouble with recovery
I have nothing against SARMS. I think they can be very useful. I just don't like misinformation. It can mislead people into thinking that there are no side effects. You may have had no trouble recovering but there is simply no way on earth they helped you recover better. It's simply scientifically impossible. SARMS are minamally suppressive at reasonable dosages. FOr bodybuilding purposes, a little more so. Maybe a little more than proviron. So, again, there's a place for something like that. But they will not HELP you recover. I just feel when you'e trying to recover you should not use anything suppressive. I will bet you dollars to dimes that if you used SARMS for 6 weeks and then went off of EVERYTHING for one month your T levels will be lower than when you started. You only tested while on. That doesn't count.
I don't mean to jump on Nelson at all but what is bolded is exactly what I was going to say.
if your LH is that high you are not suppressed, unless the guy ran a SERM that manipulated his numbers. assuming he doesn't have any SERM's in his system leftover then the bloods don't lie on this particular situation
That's only a part of the equation. And what were his LH levels before? How do you know it didn;t come down.
Again, I'm saying they;re MILDLY suppressive and for that reason I wouldn't recommend them in PCT. That's all. And he said he was tested while still using them. I'm saying that after coming off he'd have some suppression.
infraredline
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Nelson you don't seem to be registering this, SARMs do not raise T levels, LH levels ect. If his T levels were 994 that is his testosterone since SARMs do not create an artificially raised testosterone level.
No disrespect to you man you know a lot but you are really off base here and you don't want seem to want to accept what other people are trying to explain to you.
No disrespect to you man you know a lot but you are really off base here and you don't want seem to want to accept what other people are trying to explain to you.
Straight lies and bs... Sarms do absolutely nothing to t levels in any way
Brapbrap07
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its getting serious in here
Not suggesting that they aid in recovery, I'm just saying that after 8 weeks of continuous use of ostarine, s4, and gw, my LH was at 7.5. The range only goes to 8.5 so although I have no baseline to give you, I doubt I was maxed out before using them. If I was, there still wasn't a significant drop. And no, there was no SERM involved, not even in pct
SARMS will not affect your natural testosterone levels in any way, other than the possibility that they can reduce them slightly due to the suppression factor. When coming off of sarms your test levels will only rise, since you are taking out any suppression that is possibly being caused by them. Assuming you will be more suppressed coming off of sarms than when on them makes no sense whatsoever, and is completely false
I think you guys are missing the point. You're arguing against something I'm not saying yet ignoring my point about suppression.
It's up in another thread. I know it off the top of my head but I don't want to hijack the OP's thread anymore than we already have
infraredline
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We aren't denying they can have minimal suppression, but it isn't severe enough to inhibit recovery post cycle.
That makes no sense in my book. But...whatever works for ya.
can anyone answer my second question? thx
I answered your question, brother. Only bloodwork will confirm whether or not you're ready for a cycle. Generally, we recommend a 3 week mini pct after a sarms run and it should suffice, but bloodwork is the only way to be sure you aren't going Into a cycle suppressed
The theory is serms like clomid or nolva will offset any possible slight suppression that could be caused by osta.Also osta isnt really causing suppression in 4 week runs in lower doses, if you want to be safe run 15mg instead of 25mg.This pct has worked for many many people, who are even reporting gains in pct.I mean you dont have to believe in it,go with what you think works best for you but alot of people are reporting their best pct's ever with this method.
