boys, av a look for me...

[Bazl]

planning my next cycle.
not a huge fan of posting it up as it clogs the forum...
but i'm gonna do it anyway.
would love if some of the bros could let us know your thoughts.
looking to get big with clean gains with minimal bloat.

week 1-10 300mg boldenone every week
week 4-12 250mg test e every week
followed by
week 12 HCG shots. 1st with last jab of test at 3000iu, 5 days after another
followed by another 2 of 1500iu another 5 days after
week 14-17 nolva at 30mg/30mg/20mg a day

was thinking of throwing some clomid in there aswell, but let me know your thoughts.

baz

 

[bsdgeek]

hey bro, check out AR's PCT, pretty solid.

 

[bsdgeek]

http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Post Cycle Threapy (PCT).html

 

[OldWiseMan]

planning my next cycle.
not a huge fan of posting it up as it clogs the forum...
but i'm gonna do it anyway.
would love if some of the bros could let us know your thoughts.
looking to get big with clean gains with minimal bloat.

week 1-10 300mg boldenone every week
week 4-12 250mg test e every week
followed by
week 12 HCG shots. 1st with last jab of test at 3000iu, 5 days after another
followed by another 2 of 1500iu another 5 days after
week 14-17 nolva at 30mg/30mg/20mg a day

was thinking of throwing some clomid in there aswell, but let me know your thoughts.

baz

I would do something like this:

wk 1-12 500mg test e
wk 1-10 400mg eq
wk 4-13 500iu HCG 2x/wk
wk 2-11 .5mg armidex eod
wk 12-15 nolva 50mg/day (you can taper this down in wk 14 and 15)

 

[xrsist]

planning my next cycle.
not a huge fan of posting it up as it clogs the forum...
but i'm gonna do it anyway.
would love if some of the bros could let us know your thoughts.
looking to get big with clean gains with minimal bloat.

week 1-10 300mg boldenone every week
week 4-12 250mg test e every week
followed by
week 12 HCG shots. 1st with last jab of test at 3000iu, 5 days after another
followed by another 2 of 1500iu another 5 days after
week 14-17 nolva at 30mg/30mg/20mg a day

was thinking of throwing some clomid in there aswell, but let me know your thoughts.

baz

hey mate your wasting the eq at that dose and that length imo. 400-500 at 14 weeks. run the test all the way thru. that is a boat load of hcg to shoot in one sitting.. not the best idea as hcg can cause gyno bro, esp at that dose.

 

[corto]

http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Post Cycle Threapy (PCT).html

WoW this is the greatest shit ever...how could I of missed this!

 

[trowsersnake98]

heres how i would do it: (PS ran this cycle on my rat last time but only with 400mg EQ and it wasnt enough - do 600/wk)

1-18 400mg/wk test e ( running 2 extra weeks to let the EQ clear)
1-16 600mg/wk EQ

hcg throughout 250iu monday and thursday

adex - run as/if needed

PCT (gives 2 weeks for test e esters to clear)

20-23 20mg aromasin ED
20-24 50mg clomid ED ( take is before bed to eliminate the sides)

IMO im not crazy about AR's PCT. the above listed one bounced me back in no time. but everyones different.

you could also do 250mg test e/wk but thats kind of a beginner thing.

 

[Bazl]

hey mate your wasting the eq at that dose and that length imo. 400-500 at 14 weeks. run the test all the way thru. that is a boat load of hcg to shoot in one sitting.. not the best idea as hcg can cause gyno bro, esp at that dose.

yeah?
haven't used boldenone before, so was wanting to see how it worked for me.
i'm a deca fan, but don't want the bloat from it.
also, prefer to hold onto the hcg until sfter cycle.
how do you find it after cycle as opposed to throughout?

baz

 

[OldWiseMan]

yeah?
haven't used boldenone before, so was wanting to see how it worked for me.
i'm a deca fan, but don't want the bloat from it.
also, prefer to hold onto the hcg until sfter cycle.
how do you find it after cycle as opposed to throughout?

baz

I would advise against running the HCG as you originally described. You can actually desensitize LH receptors by mega-dosing HCG. It can contribute to gyno as well.

Why let you balls shrink up then try to recover them with HCG after the cycle, when you can PREVENT them from shrinking by using HCG DURING the cycle.

 

[Bazl]

I would advise against running the HCG as you originally described. You can actually desensitize LH receptors by mega-dosing HCG. It can contribute to gyno as well.

Why let you balls shrink up then try to recover them with HCG after the cycle, when you can PREVENT them from shrinking by using HCG DURING the cycle.

great point mate.
but you wanna know why? (i'm gonna cop hell for this)
BECAUSE I HATE NEEDLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.......but i hate not being able to bed young ladies more

 

[nzrodney]

Im running deca,eq, teste at present. A lot of bros will not agree with this protocol but I suggest, if you like deca & want to try eq, that you consider it. Eq needs to be at 600mg PW for min 10 weeks. I like the synergy of these 2 compounds together. The fullness of deca plus the vascularity & hardness of eq, & both great for collogen synth. HCG on cycle is a good option. Your mega dose in PCT as ^^^ can "reduce LH receptor concentration & degrade the emzymes responsible for testosterone synthesis within the testes" - not what you want. Start HCG after 3 days on cycle & use at 100iu ED & drop a weeek before your last AAS shot to clear the system. Then PCT nolva & clomid as normal.

 

[bsdgeek]

hey mate your wasting the eq at that dose and that length imo. 400-500 at 14 weeks. run the test all the way thru. that is a boat load of hcg to shoot in one sitting.. not the best idea as hcg can cause gyno bro, esp at that dose.

yep, ditto

 

[corto]

Im running deca,eq, teste at present. A lot of bros will not agree with this protocol but I suggest, if you like deca & want to try eq, that you consider it. Eq needs to be at 600mg PW for min 10 weeks. I like the synergy of these 2 compounds together. The fullness of deca plus the vascularity & hardness of eq, & both great for collogen synth. HCG on cycle is a good option. Your mega dose in PCT as ^^^ can "reduce LH receptor concentration & degrade the emzymes responsible for testosterone synthesis within the testes" - not what you want. Start HCG after 3 days on cycle & use at 100iu ED & drop a weeek before your last AAS shot to clear the system. Then PCT nolva & clomid as normal.

So your suggesting if I were to do a 12 week eq test cycle run 100iu of hcg a day from week 1-11 and then weeks 13+ run your regular pct? this makes a lot of sense how did this work for you?

 

[jumpmaster82]

bro never run eq for any shorter than 12 weeks. Run the test at a slightly higher dose than eq, and run the test for 2 or 3 weeks longer than the eq. And i think throwing in some clomid for your pct would be good.

 

[702daswoll1]

Too much HCG and not enough EQ. Up the EQ and lower HCG...

 

[The Spirit]

affirmative!

 

[chestrockwell420]

wow...lots og different ideas in here...my .02

i fyou have never run eq then try it at 400mg e/week. i people who have used 400/week and seen great results even thos the major population uses about 600/week.run it same lenght as test.aslo, hcg doses are a bit high and its my belief clomid should be run every post cycle.good luck

 

[nzrodney]

So your suggesting if I were to do a 12 week eq test cycle run 100iu of hcg a day from week 1-11 and then weeks 13+ run your regular pct? this makes a lot of sense how did this work for you?

Refer - http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/everything-s-wrong-your-pct-546636.html

I do not use HCG because I am on cycle all the time. There are contrary opinions on its use in cycle & for PCT. Take your pick.

 

[Bazl]

basically, i preer to keep the amount o gear i use minimal when on.
thus reducing side effects and making it easier to recover.

 

[busamuscle]

planning my next cycle.
not a huge fan of posting it up as it clogs the forum...
but i'm gonna do it anyway.
would love if some of the bros could let us know your thoughts.
looking to get big with clean gains with minimal bloat.

week 1-10 300mg boldenone every week
week 4-12 250mg test e every week
followed by
week 12 HCG shots. 1st with last jab of test at 3000iu, 5 days after another
followed by another 2 of 1500iu another 5 days after
week 14-17 nolva at 30mg/30mg/20mg a day

was thinking of throwing some clomid in there aswell, but let me know your thoughts.

baz

I would up the Eq to 400-500mg and split the HCG into three shots a week. With nolva in there at the end, you should not have a problem with gyno from the HCG. Most people have never even looked in an PDR and seen that HCG is given to men in the range of 500-5000iu 3x/week for months at a time. The parrots on this board never cease to amaze me and I don't care what AR says!

 

[Bazl]

I would up the Eq to 400-500mg and split the HCG into three shots a week. With nolva in there at the end, you should not have a problem with gyno from the HCG. Most people have never even looked in an PDR and seen that HCG is given to men in the range of 500-5000iu 3x/week for months at a time. The parrots on this board never cease to amaze me and I don't care what AR says!

really?
interesting

 

[xrsist]

I would up the Eq to 400-500mg and split the HCG into three shots a week. With nolva in there at the end, you should not have a problem with gyno from the HCG. Most people have never even looked in an PDR and seen that HCG is given to men in the range of 500-5000iu 3x/week for months at a time. The parrots on this board never cease to amaze me and I don't care what AR says!

why use more hcg if you dont have to?

 

[Bazl]

xrsist, how much u use and how often bro?

 

[xrsist]

xrsist, how much u use and how often bro?

iv only used it after a cycle and not during,

take my last shot of test then the next day shoot 250-500ius a day for 10 days straight then wait 5 days to start clomid at 50mg ED for 20-30 days

if i was to run a long cycle i would use it during

 

[Bazl]

iv only used it after a cycle and not during,

take my last shot of test then the next day shoot 250-500ius a day for 10 days straight then wait 5 days to start clomid at 50mg ED for 20-30 days

if i was to run a long cycle i would use it during

half life of hcg is around 5 days yeah?
so one could inject say 3000IU one day, wait 5 days and have your second, yes? and the following shots 5 days after.
this should be fine also yeah?

baz

 

[goku_kakarot77]

planning my next cycle.
not a huge fan of posting it up as it clogs the forum...
but i'm gonna do it anyway.
would love if some of the bros could let us know your thoughts.
looking to get big with clean gains with minimal bloat.

week 1-10 300mg boldenone every week
week 4-12 250mg testosterone enanthate every week
followed by
week 12 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - shots. 1st with last jab of test at 3000iu, 5 days after another
followed by another 2 of 1500iu another 5 days after
week 14-17 Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - at 30mg/30mg/20mg a day

was thinking of throwing some clomid in there aswell, but let me know your thoughts.

baz

do test week 1-15 250mgs
eq should be at least 500600min for about 15 weeks

peace

 

[Nelson Montana]

I like AR and respect his knowledge but we are on different pages with the Nolvaa thing. What makes sense on paper doesn't always pan out in the real world and I've found Nolvaa to be too hit or miss with too many sides. Besides, today there are so many better options, both natty and pharma.

 

[trowsersnake98]

I like AR and respect his knowledge but we are on different pages with the Nolvaa thing. What makes sense on paper doesn't always pan out in the real world and I've found Nolvaa to be too hit or miss with too many sides. Besides, today there are so many better options, both natty and pharma.

agreed.

 

[Bazl]

I like AR and respect his knowledge but we are on different pages with the Nolvaa thing. What makes sense on paper doesn't always pan out in the real world and I've found Nolvaa to be too hit or miss with too many sides. Besides, today there are so many better options, both natty and pharma.

what would your advise be mate?

baz

 

[xrsist]

half life of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - is around 5 days yeah?
so one could inject say 3000IU one day, wait 5 days and have your second, yes? and the following shots 5 days after.
this should be fine also yeah?

baz

i wouldnt recommend it mate, imo thats too much hcg to shoot in one shot

 

[busamuscle]

why use more HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - if you dont have to?

This is true, he needs to find out how much HCG it takes for him to recover. But in the case of PCT I think a little to much is better than not enough!

 

[busamuscle]

iv only used it after a cycle and not during,

take my last shot of test then the next day shoot 250-500ius a day for 10 days straight then wait 5 days to start clomid at 50mg ED for 20-30 days

if i was to run a long cycle i would use it during

I like this protocol the best but without the clomid and doing this until everything clears out of the system. But he said he didn't want to take that many shots.

 

[access]

I have done it both ways.

As xrsist ran with 500iu's through 10 straight days in PCT.

I have also run at 250iu's 3 x week during cycle.

Guess what. Both worked fine for me. My preference now is to run during cycle. Just keeps them bouncing along a bit better at all times.

I also run Nolva and understand Nelson's reluctance to using it but for me works great. I also know a lot of other guys use it with great results so for now I will stick with it.

 

[access]

Would also add that upping the dose on Eq and running it out to 12 weeks minimum is a much better way to go with Eq. Great compound and you should be very happy with it. Love Eq.