Bored, depressed.....

[Ir0n PhReAk]

Bored, depressed.....(Please Read)

Does anybody else always feel like this? I'm constantly bored, tired, and depressed feeling unless I'm high or am drinking. I don't even do that much anymore because I'm not very outgoing and feel like shit alot of the time. I'm only 22 yrs old.

 

[WODIN]

Does anybody else always feel like this? I'm constantly bored, tired, and depressed feeling unless I'm high or am drinking. I don't even do that much anymore because I'm not very outgoing and feel like shit alot of the time. I'm only 22 yrs old.

Get this book
The Pain free Tryptophan diet.

http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts...718/qid=1011813435/sr=1-1/103-6889137-9323857

Also if your not on any SSRI or MAO inhibitors Paxil, prozac, etc...

Then get some L-Tryptophan and use it in moderate dosages at night before you go to bed.

http://www.nubrain-store.com/gensym-320.html

Good Luck and use this.

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

Thanks Wodin. Whats a good dose for the L-Tryptophan and how long should it take to start working?

 

[MISSFLEX]

Eat some chocolate....helps with the seratonin levels...there you go, and excuse for eating all the wrong foods!

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

I did a few searches on L-Tryptophan, looks like I will have to order it as its not sold anywhere here. Has anyone had any luck with 5-HTP? I'm going to try the L-Tryptophan but I can easily geth the 5-HTP at GNC.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Pure inositol powder can work miracles in the 3-6 gram/day range. Do some searches on GaryWary's posts. Great stuff... I know from personal experience.

However... there are probably underlying factors that have led to your condition. Time to do some soul-searching, address what's wrong in your life, get into self-improvement, perhaps visit a therapist, etc...

Supplements and pills are a short-term answer unless you are biologically predisposed to depression.

 

[KEL]

do you have SAD?(seasonal affective disorder)

go to a tanning salon the fake sun might help

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

Reading posts on Inositol right now. What kind should I get and can it be bought at like a Vitamin World or GNC?? I really want to get something today as I've been feeling extra shitty the past few days. Thanks Machine!

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Yes, you can get it at nutrition stores. Buy it in the powder form. You can buy it online at www.thepowerstore.com

 

[THeMaCHinE]

It works very, very fast. If it works for you, you will know inside the first few days, perhaps even the first day. I noticed the first day I took it. Gary reported similar experiences for himself and others.

 

[ladymacbeth]

I did a few searches on L-Tryptophan, looks like I will have to order it as its not sold anywhere here. Has anyone had any luck with 5-HTP? I'm going to try the L-Tryptophan but I can easily geth the 5-HTP at GNC.

Hi Iron,

5-HTP is great, I had a lot of luck with it...the only problem is the effects aren't too noticeable at first. I stay way, way clear of any anti-depressants, so HTP was the best way to go. However, I took a lot (I'm not at the moment, it's not addictive, and not the kind of thing that you need to take all the time to keep the effects up). I took about 150-200 mg/day, one pill is about 50 mg, and since you're a dude, you might have to take more.

Don't Get it at GNC! 5-HTP is really, really cheap, and they'll probably overcharge you. I got a bottle of 45 50 mg capsules for $4 at target. Also, when I'm feeling shitty, I drink some herbal tea and take a bubble bath, but I suppose that might not be the best solution for everyone...

 

[ladymacbeth]

It works very, very fast. If it works for you, you will know inside the first few days, perhaps even the first day. I noticed the first day I took it. Gary reported similar experiences for himself and others.

Ha! I just read this...maybe it works faster in the powder form, but I've never tried that. Ah, conflicts in info...it took a few days to notice its effects...it was really fast for you machine?

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

Ha! I just read this...maybe it works faster in the powder form, but I've never tried that. Ah, conflicts in info...it took a few days to notice its effects...it was really fast for you machine?

He's talking about Inositol. Thanks for sharing your experience with the 5 HTP though I look forward to trying it also

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

I have to go pick up some protein tonight anyways so I'll go ahead and get some Inositol. If I take it before the gym will it be less effective if I also drink a caffeine/ephedra energy drink as I usually do before my workouts.

 

[NY Muscle]

prozac

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Ha! I just read this...maybe it works faster in the powder form, but I've never tried that. Ah, conflicts in info...it took a few days to notice its effects...it was really fast for you machine?

5HPT is a different substance than Inositol. Tryptophan converts to 5HPT; IP6 converts to inositol.

 

[TheGame2001]

And

Church, personal relationship with Christ.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

prozac

I've been on Prozac. Inositol worked better, faster, with fewer sides.

Remember, minimum 3 grams a day -- 6 was optimum for me; 4 - 10 is the range for most people. Take over divided dosages (1-2 grms, 3x per day); mix the powder with grapefruit juice as the nactin content will increase absorbtion.

 

[NY Muscle]

I've been on Prozac. Inositol worked better, faster, with fewer sides.

Remember, minimum 3 grams a day -- 6 was optimum for me; 4 - 10 is the range for most people. Take over divided dosages (1-2 grms, 3x per day); mix the powder with grapefruit juice as the nactin content will increase absorbtion.

you need to give the prozac time peak blood levels taje al ogn tiem to build up like 1 pill the 1st week then 2 the 2nd then 3..

how many did u go up to? youd be surprised afetr a month when it really kicks in how you feel, but you have to give it a chance.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

you need to give the prozac time peak blood levels taje al ogn tiem to build up like 1 pill the 1st week then 2 the 2nd then 3..

how many did u go up to? youd be surprised afetr a month when it really kicks in how you feel, but you have to give it a chance.

I was on it for six months; you're right, it does take about a month to load. It helped some, but not enough. I don't remember my dosages on Prozac, but they were consistent with what the doctor prescribed. I did taper up when going on, and tapered down when going off.

Eventually, I went to Effexor -- Prozac simply wasn't doing it for me. No SSRI works for everybody in an optimal manner. After being on Effexor at 75mgs/day for awhile (another 3 - 6 months), I reached a point where it was time to get off the shit and start living again.

Let me tell you something. Effexor withdrawl is a bitch -- probably the worst of all anti-d/anti-a meds. Hot flashes, spots in the vision, piercing headaches, magnified noises, puking and rebound depression.

This is when, thanks to GaryWary, I discovered inositol. It almost instantly brought the rebound depression into check, and I firmly believe that it is as good, if not better, than many anti-d/anti-a meds out there.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

And let me add, getting on the meds is no joke. One should try to exhaust more immediate means of healing before resorting to the meds. Inositol is cheap, natural and readily available.

 

[NY Muscle]

And let me add, getting on the meds is no joke. One should try to exhaust more immediate means of healing before resorting to the meds.

i do agree with you here but i do have to laugh at the same time

we pretty much are all juiceheads here lol hyprocites too?

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

update.....

I got some Inositol last night. Took 2g's around 6:00 and 2 more grams around 9:00. Didn't feel any different but I seemed to have slept better. I had a couple good (happy) dreams that I kinda remember haveing and latley I havent been sleeping well enough to even dream. This morning I took 3 more grams at 7:00 and will take another 3 around noon. I'm really hoping to feel alot better today but if not it was only six bucks for 2oz. of powder.

 

[WODIN]

Iron phreak,

I take two of the 500 mg caps a night before I go to bed whenever I use L-Tryptophan. I have some wild dreams too.

Mommakin has tried 5-htp which is the precursor she may be able to offer you some insight.

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

Iron phreak,

I take two of the 500 mg caps a night before I go to bed whenever I use L-Tryptophan. I have some wild dreams too.

Mommakin has tried 5-htp which is the precursor she may be able to offer you some insight.

Thanks Wodin and have a happy birthday bro!

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I hope it works out for you.

NY- yeah, I know what you're saying -- however, these thing fuck with your mind, I've never had any sort of withdrawl from AS.

 

[NY Muscle]

I hope it works out for you.

NY- yeah, I know what you're saying -- however, these thing fuck with your mind, I've never had any sort of withdrawl from AS.

thats because no one ever really comes off. lol

but yeah i know what u mean... xanax sucks too bad headaches when u come offf but no withdrawal. prozac needs to be tapered slowly as do the other SSRIs

you guys need to try st johns wart and kava kava, youd be amazed how good the combo is.

 

[WODIN]

you guys need to try st johns wart and kava kava, youd be amazed how good the combo is.

This is a very good combo....

Mellow Yellow

 

[mrbill]

Iron Phreak, everybody goes through periods where they are "down". I think everyone these days is way too quick in jumping on the "take a pill for it" bandwagon. I just don't get it. It is like everyone thinks you are supposed to be ecstatic 24 hrs a day or you should take a pill. Just hang in there, go talk to a good friend, go to the gym, read a good book, find a hobby, etc. You don't need to be "medicated". Just my opinion.