Bodybuilder collapses, dies -Sunday, July 23, 2006

[mr. snakes]

Listen you fucking baboon, it's not about "hating" roids, it's about acknowledging there are dangers associated with using them. I have a prescription and my internist monitors my blood work and EKG carefully. Stupid motherfucker! Oooh ooh look at me I want to get big and strong on roids. Fucking abomination. You are the reason why roids are under so much scrutiny right now. Get the fuck off this board!

KISS MY ASS PUSSY.!!!!!

 

[mr. snakes]

Listen you fucking baboon, it's not about "hating" roids, it's about acknowledging there are dangers associated with using them. I have a prescription and my internist monitors my blood work and EKG carefully. Stupid motherfucker! Oooh ooh look at me I want to get big and strong on roids. Fucking abomination. You are the reason why roids are under so much scrutiny right now. Get the fuck off this board!

I will NEVER get off this board.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go preach elsewhere you cock sucking anti-roid propaganda junkie.!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ffactor]

Seriously, I want admin to take note of this. We are at a difficult time right now where steroids are getting a bad rap because of a handful a parents whose kids died allegedly due to steroids and ex-sports stars like canseco. Do we really want kids like this on this board with this kinda attitude. They can get ALL of us in trouble.

 

[Maverick]

I will NEVER get off this board.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go preach elsewhere you cock sucking anti-roid propaganda junkie.!!!!!!!!!!!!

I laugh at your posts because your blood pressure must be so elevated with the combination of your temper and your steroid use.

and I will always stick by this though, anyone else is stupid for risking their health with steroid use.

IF YOU ARE NOT A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE/PROFESSIONAL BODYBUILDER/POWERLIFTER MAKING MONEY, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS TAKING ROIDS. I UNDERSTAND PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES NEED STEROIDS TO COMPETE AT A CERTAIN LEVEL BECAUSE EVERYONE IS DOING THEM. BUT THEY ARE MAKING LOTS OF MONEY, THAT IS WHY THEY CAN RISK IT..... MOST OF YOU ARE PAYING LOTS OF MONEY FOR THE ROIDS AND NOT GETTING ANYTHING BACK FROM THEM (ESPECIALLY MONEY) YOUR JUST FEEDING YOUR OWN EGO WITH YOUR BLOATED MUSCLES IN YOUR TIGHT UNDER ARMOUR SHIRTS AT THE CLUBS TRYING TO PICK UP BITCHES !!!

THE MAJORITY OF YOU HAVE LOW SELF ESTEEM AND A MALE ADONIS COMPLEX !!!


"The Adonis Complex brilliantly demonstrates that body obsession is an equal-opportunity menace and that men who seek physical perfection are in an insidious double bind. The "male body image industry" (think Calvin Klein underwear ads) creates impossible ideals of beauty and body, yet men--unlike women--are prohibited from discussing how they think and feel about their bodies.

The image industry is displayed in fascinating detail--for example, photos of the new buff makeovers on GI Joe and Star Wars action figures. The book offers stunning evidence of men's silent suffering to achieve Adonis-like beauty: secret dietary rituals, hair transplants, penis enlargement, cosmetic surgery, and abuse of steroids, ephedrine, fat burners, and diuretics. Two clinical disorders, "body dysmorphia" and "bigorexia," a chilling inverse of anorexia, in which men continue to think they are tiny even when they are alarmingly muscled, are also introduced. The authors' prescriptions are as well targeted as their descriptions.

The final chapters offer compelling advice in vivid case studies, self-tests, and one of the author's own stories of recovering from an eating disorder. Parents of growing boys and men trapped in the mirror will find a clear, cognitive behavioral program that allows them to set more realistic goals for their bodies and minds"


I am sorry this thread turned into this, it is sad that he died but I am sure the steroids did not help his cause

 

[bigtasty25]

Whoever this guy is, his should get booted off this board before he does damage.

i have to agree with ffactor...that comment by mr snakes about roids and swearing and crap in regards to ffactor's justifiable comment should not be tolerated on this board.

also...mod's take note of mr snakes...these are the types of kids we dont want taking steroids...his immaturity speaks for itself..the more i read his posts the more annoyed I get at the ignorant kids on this board and their lack of respect.

hey ffactor..dont take this tard personally...you and I both know these wifebeater boys would never talk like this face to face with us...now i wonder why that is..

 

[bigtasty25]

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[bigtasty25]

WTF!!!
I clicked on this thread to read what I thought would be condolances. instead, i'm reading a load of bullsh*t amateur diagnosis of a what caused this poor guy to die!!
Simple fact: 1 in 3, thats 1 in 3, men die of heart disease!
Although he was very young, it is still not uncommon at that age. To claim it had ANYTHING at all to do with aas is total bollocks! On the same day, no doubt some where else in the world, some one of the same age will have died of the same thing. This other guy could have been an amateur runner and ate nothing but lean meat, noodles and steamed veg. Would it then be fair to say his running was the cause of his heart failure?
None of you making these claims have any idea what caused it. You don't know him, his family history, his lifestyle, his habits or anything else for that matter. Stop with the bickering crap and pay your respects. His family and friends might be reading this.

couldnt have said it better myself bro...
my condolensces go out to his family...and like the guy said, we really have no idea what he died from...steroids may have played a role..but im sure there were other factors as well..

 

[bigtasty25]

I laugh at your posts because your blood pressure must be so elevated with the combination of your temper and your steroid use.

and I will always stick by this though, anyone else is stupid for risking their health with steroid use.

IF YOU ARE NOT A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE/PROFESSIONAL BODYBUILDER/POWERLIFTER MAKING MONEY, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS TAKING ROIDS. I UNDERSTAND PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES NEED STEROIDS TO COMPETE AT A CERTAIN LEVEL BECAUSE EVERYONE IS DOING THEM. BUT THEY ARE MAKING LOTS OF MONEY, THAT IS WHY THEY CAN RISK IT..... MOST OF YOU ARE PAYING LOTS OF MONEY FOR THE ROIDS AND NOT GETTING ANYTHING BACK FROM THEM (ESPECIALLY MONEY) YOUR JUST FEEDING YOUR OWN EGO WITH YOUR BLOATED MUSCLES IN YOUR TIGHT UNDER ARMOUR SHIRTS AT THE CLUBS TRYING TO PICK UP BITCHES !!!

THE MAJORITY OF YOU HAVE LOW SELF ESTEEM AND A MALE ADONIS COMPLEX !!!


"The Adonis Complex brilliantly demonstrates that body obsession is an equal-opportunity menace and that men who seek physical perfection are in an insidious double bind. The "male body image industry" (think Calvin Klein underwear ads) creates impossible ideals of beauty and body, yet men--unlike women--are prohibited from discussing how they think and feel about their bodies.

The image industry is displayed in fascinating detail--for example, photos of the new buff makeovers on GI Joe and Star Wars action figures. The book offers stunning evidence of men's silent suffering to achieve Adonis-like beauty: secret dietary rituals, hair transplants, penis enlargement, cosmetic surgery, and abuse of steroids, ephedrine, fat burners, and diuretics. Two clinical disorders, "body dysmorphia" and "bigorexia," a chilling inverse of anorexia, in which men continue to think they are tiny even when they are alarmingly muscled, are also introduced. The authors' prescriptions are as well targeted as their descriptions.

The final chapters offer compelling advice in vivid case studies, self-tests, and one of the author's own stories of recovering from an eating disorder. Parents of growing boys and men trapped in the mirror will find a clear, cognitive behavioral program that allows them to set more realistic goals for their bodies and minds"


I am sorry this thread turned into this, it is sad that he died but I am sure the steroids did not help his cause

I have and read this adonis complex book..its mostly crap...and most of the people here dont necessarily have low self esteem...but a bad self image is another story...there is a big difference between the two. Also...most here do NOT have a male adonis complex...looking for perfection..because if that WERE the case...we'd have mostly competitive bodybuilders here..which is not the case..more like 1 in every 6 individuals here...lots here just have a low self image (to an extent), and want to improve their body...and started from a young age, and have kept with it..thats all...and it's a GOOD thing because it's a healthy hobby for the most part...if you dont abusive drugs of course. And you dont necessarily make alot of money as a pro bb'er...that doesnt necessitate taking juice...most pros, for the most part, dont make squat...only a select few...so if ure taking juice to compete..its for the love of the sport and to make personal goals, not for $ like maverick claims..the amount of bullshit this fag throws around is ridiculous, and he isnt even a bodybuilder..so really shouldnt be giving advice AT ALL. Now if you think otherwise maverick, then you have problems. I believe its fine for competitive athletes to take steroids..bodybuilders in particular..or anyone wanting to strive for a competitive like body, but doesnt actually compete..but if ure 18, lifted for a year, dont eat well, etc..and want to take juice...well..its not for you.

 

[Maverick]

I have and read this adonis complex book..its mostly crap...and most of the people here dont necessarily have low self esteem...but a bad self image is another story...there is a big difference between the two. Also...most here do NOT have a male adonis complex...looking for perfection..because if that WERE the case...we'd have mostly competitive bodybuilders here..which is not the case..more like 1 in every 6 individuals here...lots here just have a low self image (to an extent), and want to improve their body...and started from a young age, and have kept with it..thats all...and it's a GOOD thing because it's a healthy hobby for the most part...if you dont abusive drugs of course. And you dont necessarily make alot of money as a pro bb'er...that doesnt necessitate taking juice...most pros, for the most part, dont make squat...only a select few...so if ure taking juice to compete..its for the love of the sport and to make personal goals, not for $ like maverick claims..the amount of bullshit this fag throws around is ridiculous, and he isnt even a bodybuilder..so really shouldnt be giving advice AT ALL. Now if you think otherwise maverick, then you have problems. I believe its fine for competitive athletes to take steroids..bodybuilders in particular..or anyone wanting to strive for a competitive like body, but doesnt actually compete..but if ure 18, lifted for a year, dont eat well, etc..and want to take juice...well..its not for you.

I just dont think it is worth the risk if you dont have the opportunity to make lots of money with the advantages that roids give you.

I never claim to be a bodybuilder, but I will say one thing..... I am in great shape and I am pretty damn strong for my size.......

but I am most proud of the fact that I am healthy !!! not too mention a pretty good athlete.

 

[theprofessor]

IF YOU ARE NOT A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE/PROFESSIONAL BODYBUILDER/POWERLIFTER MAKING MONEY, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS TAKING ROIDS. I UNDERSTAND PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES NEED STEROIDS TO COMPETE AT A CERTAIN LEVEL BECAUSE EVERYONE IS DOING THEM. BUT THEY ARE MAKING LOTS OF MONEY, THAT IS WHY THEY CAN RISK IT..... MOST OF YOU ARE PAYING LOTS OF MONEY FOR THE ROIDS AND NOT GETTING ANYTHING BACK FROM THEM (ESPECIALLY MONEY) YOUR JUST FEEDING YOUR OWN EGO WITH YOUR BLOATED MUSCLES IN YOUR TIGHT UNDER ARMOUR SHIRTS AT THE CLUBS TRYING TO PICK UP BITCHES !!!

THE MAJORITY OF YOU HAVE LOW SELF ESTEEM AND A MALE ADONIS COMPLEX !!!

you can use a sword to kill a man... or you can use it to stop a theif...
everything in this world is what you make of it...
so in your world... ...a professional athlete making money has the right to use somthing to improve their overall quality of life... but other people... who have put this same substance into their body... dont share this right... even though they make money some other way (a job)... maintain a healthy family (not all of us go running around crazed trying to fuck everything we see)... may possibly make better choices with their AAS use because they're not trying to set a world record... have better eating habits and overall healthier approaches at their training...
but i guess since the pro gets paid for doing it its ok... that's not feeding into their ego's...
why can't we try to keep up... and be healthy about it? we dont have low self esteem... we just think great of ourselves... and we wouldn't train hard if he didn't beleive in ourselves...
you can be happy with being a worthless punk in life... thats fine with me...
you can have your inferiority... you can match up with the man who trains more intense... (because they can)... you match up with the man who has no fear in his eyes...
sorry but we want the best... i have an ego... damn right... and you would be a slave to your lack of ego