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BLOODS* what should I do

Oh and estro was almost kind of low for my normal. It was 16.8 vs the typical mid to late twenties. AND my balls are not atrophied
 
I am also considering running clomid for an extended period to see if that helps. I don't want to sit here with little to no test. I'm not going to a doctor because I don't trust them and I don't want to be on hrt.
I was thinking
25mg Ed for 2 months
25mg EOD/ 12.5mg ED following. I've read a lot of people have good results with this
 
Ok guys please help me out here. I want to fucking kill myself. As youcan see above I ran a 4 week pct of clomid with bloods and brought my test from 390 to almost 700. I've been off the clomid for almost 5 weeks and my bloods came in this morning.
Testosterone 257
LH 1.3
FSH 1.7

What the fuck.... I want to vomit. Couple questions... Why the fuck did it drop lower than 390 after using the clomid. When my test was at 390 I had ED, felt depressed and was getting fat. I feel great right now (until I saw the results). Question 2. Am I fucked? Is this hrt for life?? Or can I bounce this back since I responded so well to the clomid. I want to have children one day, but there doesn't appear to be a light at the end of the tunnel. I'll run clomid for hrt if I have to. Please help guys

SERM's will temporarily bump your numbers but after you come off thinks crater back to earth. this is why your numbers are poor.

will you bounce back? probably so bro.

your next option now is to try the natty method and to hell with manipulating your numbers

run phyto-serms (see banner and coupon codes in my signature) along with either test infusion or unleashed. do this for the next month. and then test again. i assure you that your numbers will improve.
 
SERM's will temporarily bump your numbers but after you come off thinks crater back to earth. this is why your numbers are poor.

will you bounce back? probably so bro.

your next option now is to try the natty method and to hell with manipulating your numbers

run phyto-serms (see banner and coupon codes in my signature) along with either test infusion or unleashed. do this for the next month. and then test again. i assure you that your numbers will improve.

Awesome, thanks man, just what I expected. Kinda fucking annoying, when my test was 390 it probably would have benefitted me to leave it alone and stay off the clomid. What's done is done and time to finish the long road to recovery. Just shows that recovery ends long after pct, don't let the serms fool you and stay off the juice until things are really good to go. Thanks Steve
 
things take time bro. its obvious the tren kicked your ass. I ran 300mg deca wk for 7 weeks (stopped cause of low back cystic acne). ran pct and it still took me 6-8 mos to fully recover from it.

Yeah fml. This is from a multitude of tren cycles, my recovery times got longer and longer. And I was also running cycles when I "felt good" big mistake, bloods are absolutely mandatory for AAS. I have raging hard ons, morning wood, elevated mood, great workouts. My test is 257. What does that tell you. Get bloods
 
Agree completely,

Bloods are essential. I screwed up by not getting them and then running Sarms after I completed my pct. my test was 296 in April 398 in may. Going to get it checked this week to see where I'm at.

I also agree with you as well. I've always hard raging boners and nerver feel depressed after. Cycle
 
Ya know, my testes respond very well to my LH and FSH. Some post cycle shut down is be quite the opposite although both leads to the same result, low testosterone. My test was a soaring 700+ when my LH is 5.8 (which isn't that high while on clomid) this leads me to believe my "original" test levels were relatively high. This means my testes have fully recovered but my hypothalamus and pituitary gland have NOT. So my question is this: you would think that the testes would be the most affected part of the body from androgen abuse, why would I be struggling on the other end, why is my brain not able to recognize that I have low test?? (I don't mean my case in particular, in general). A simple pulse of LH would put up the charts. While some this is not the case LH is up but not response from the testes.
 
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