blood test

[Zircon]

Got some results.

I'm 28, 5'11, 170 lbs. 10% bf. I feel lethargic and tired qutie a lot of the time. Many ppl have commented int he past 5 eyars that I look tired and drawn....which I feel soemtimes, and sometimes not. I struggle to put on weight, might be diet?

fsh - 1.7
lh 5.2
progesterone 2.5
shbg 34.9
total test 16.83 (???)
free test 340.2 (???)

Ranges:

estradiol 95.5 range: 44-207
fsh - 1.7 range: 1.2 15.8
lh 5.2 range: 1.3-9.6
progesterone 2.5 range: 0.7- 4.7
shbg 34.9 range: 11.4 52.3
total test 16.83 range: 7.3 - 27
free test 340.2 range: 181 - 536

Some ppl say my TT is a bit low. They say should be around 22-23 for active person my age. Also fsh is very borderline.

My aas history is 5 x 2 weekers with prop and tren, with about 10 days pct after each with clomid nolva. Used to take about 6 weeks off after each 2 weeker. I felt greta after 2 weekers, no crash. I have veeb feeling this way on and off for 5 years tho, so don't think it's the aas.

My libido is not what it should be, but might be mental. Not really itnerested in sex, altho dating a beautiful woman. THis is really shitty...

Last thign I did with aas was abotu 2 months ago...did dbol only 20-30mg a day....which didnt agree with me...so I stopped after one week. I didn't do pct.

I'm thinking of doing a big pct with clomid nolva hcg, to kick everything into shape. Opinions?

 

[bilter]

run a 3 week pct. 10 days is not long enough if you've been on tren if even for only 2 weeks. better too long on pct than not long enough. ? for you. How is your sex drive at the end of your 2 weekers on tren prop?

 

[Zircon]

It seemed fine. In fact for 3 weeks or so after it was fine....better than before.

THe thing is for about 4 years now my sex drive has not been up to scratch - quite possibly due to mental issues. Which I am now dealing with...

WHat pct u suggest? 20mg nolva for 4 weeks?

 

[Zircon]

basically looking for comments on my blood tests....I dunno of total test is lower than normal (the docs range of 200-1000...whatever...I know if you have 300...you'll feel lousy (or 12 for that matter in the units given above)

Also fsh...is pretty low....which is not too good, from what I've read???

 

[Zircon]

apologies for bump...comments?

 

[bilter]

I think nolva at 40 PD for 4 weeks would be a good start. Complete that and see how you feel. I would not add in HCG as this would fool your system into thinking it is producing enough LH. You could also add in some clomid but I don't think it is necessary. Try that, wait another month or so and get more testing done to see if you are recovered (although your sex drive is usually a good indicator). If you still feel like shit it may be time to start HRT even though you are only 28. You could also do a search on HCG usage. there is one Dr out there that has done some treatment with HCG (at low doses for extended periods, 6 months if I remember correctly) and has good sucess. But again, no nolva is included in his treatment.

 

[Zircon]

bitter...I just wonder with my test results...is HRT even necessary??? Are you saying my test results are low? THey might be a bit lower than normal for 28 y old?

Sex drive may very well hav to do with mental issues as well...which I did have at seom stage, regarding sex.

What about FSH? What is it? It's very much borderline low for me...range is 1.2 - 15...and I'm 1.7.

 

[bilter]

FSH is Follical stimulating Hormone. You can read about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Follicle_stimulating_hormone
I am not an endoconologist so don't take anuthing you read here to seriously. Really you should consult one to get an idea of exactly where you stand and determine if any treatment is necessary. As far as test levels and HRT, the numbers do not tell all. My test levels cam in at 355 which is considered "normal" but I felt tired and lazy all the time. I did not have LH, FSH or shbg tested. All of these effect how you feel. SHBG tends to rise as we age reducing the amount of free test available to our bodies. As you can see there are many variables here and it would be best for you to talk to a Dr. Sorry I can't be more help but that is where you will get the best answers.
here is a link explaining SHBG http://www.dpcweb.com/medical/reproductive_endocrinology/shbg.html

 

[Zircon]

Bitter, are you on HRT? How much are you taking per week? What else are you on?

Did you take steroids, and this suppressed you?

For TT did you check out at 355 - was the blood drawn in the morning or afternoon?

How old are you?

If your values are 355 in the morning...I'm very sure you would feel lousy...even though its' "In range"...which is what I worry about...my fsh is in range...but its very close to minimum.

 

[slat1]

My FSH, LH, and Total test are low. My bio available test is well below the range.

 

[bilter]

Bitter, are you on HRT? How much are you taking per week? What else are you on?

Did you take steroids, and this suppressed you?

For TT did you check out at 355 - was the blood drawn in the morning or afternoon?

How old are you?

If your values are 355 in the morning...I'm very sure you would feel lousy...even though its' "In range"...which is what I worry about...my fsh is in range...but its very close to minimum.

Hey, I'm not bitter its bilter . Yes I am on HRT 40 yo I only take 200mg test cyp every 3 weeks. I am on nothing else. My test was takeb in the am. This is not something that I was really excited about starting but damn, I do feel a lot better even at the low dose my Dr put me on. I certainly would like to find a way to get off and I may try running an extended PCT at some point to see its effect. I actually consider myself lucky to have found a Dr that was open minded enough to treat me.

 

[Zircon]

slat1...and regardless of this...you feel fine, and you gain a lot of muscle and little fat???

How do you think you manage that?? Do you know what your values are?