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blood test results part 3

stevesmi

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last injection was 4th of july weekend. deca/sustanon cycle. takes 5 weeks for deca to clear and 3 weeks for sustanon.

ran a PCT right away and on 8/10 total test was 98
ran a 2nd PCT and on 9/20 they were 119
and now after running a 3rd PCT on Nov 17 total testosterone came in at a respectable 332!!!

I ran 3 PCT's. the 3rd included 1 dose of HMG, high doses of HCG at 1500 iu's every 4 days, and nolva 20mg ED for 3 weeks. I believe this pct worked for me.

I think 1 more month of recovery and I will be G2G.
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
what was in ur 1st and second pct?

ive always read that hcg in pCT isnt as good. I wanna try HMg tho it looks good
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1st PCT was natty supps and clomid
2nd PCT was clomid and small amounts of hcg

3rd PCT of nolva, higher doses of hcg, 1 dose of HMG seemed to do the trick.
 
ashah1985 said:
Fair enough bro. Have you tried tapering down ? Or shorter Cycles? Think theres a few threads on them. just my 2 cents
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tapering down is a myth and i never go past 12 weeks with my cycles. and I am only going 10 weeks on my next cycle.

I do think one 10 week cycle and 1 short cycle per year is all you should do with cycling. but today lots of guys just jump on HRT just because they didn't run a good enough PCT or tried something different or gave their body enough time. heck some respected posters told me back in August I should jump on HRT when my levels were 98. everyone is so fast to give up on cycling.

cycling CAN be done if you are patient and willing to not be stubborn with your PCT. be your own guinea pig and realize that PCT is personal
 
stevesmi said:
tapering down is a myth and i never go past 12 weeks with my cycles. and I am only going 10 weeks on my next cycle.

I do think one 10 week cycle and 1 short cycle per year is all you should do with cycling. but today lots of guys just jump on HRT just because they didn't run a good enough PCT or tried something different or gave their body enough time. heck some respected posters told me back in August I should jump on HRT when my levels were 98. everyone is so fast to give up on cycling.

cycling CAN be done if you are patient and willing to not be stubborn with your PCT. be your own guinea pig and realize that PCT is personal
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Tapering down is not a myth It works well for me. Did you stop Deca a few weeks before you stopped Suss? If HRT works for you all the best bro but if you havent considered all factors why dont you give it a try?
 
stevesmi said:
last injection was 4th of july weekend. deca/sustanon cycle. takes 5 weeks for deca to clear and 3 weeks for sustanon.

ran a PCT right away and on 8/10 total test was 98
ran a 2nd PCT and on 9/20 they were 119
and now after running a 3rd PCT on Nov 17 total testosterone came in at a respectable 332!!!

I ran 3 PCT's. the 3rd included 1 dose of HMG, high doses of HCG at 1500 iu's every 4 days, and nolva 20mg ED for 3 weeks. I believe this pct worked for me.

I think 1 more month of recovery and I will be G2G.
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Great to hear the numbers finally came back up!

Do you now recommend HMG as part of a standard PCT?
 
thatbloke said:
have u ever considered that maybe ur test results came out better this time due to the duration fo how long uve been on cycle?
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i say get a blood test in another month to make sure ur sweet, ur blood test right after that would be more accurate
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yes and yes.

but guys have reported being shut down on deca for long periods. obviously the PCT did help me .. i would say without the PCT i would be in big trouble after a deca cycle.

I'm glad I could get a win for the cycling guys on here.
 
Discreet User said:
Great to hear the numbers finally came back up!

Do you now recommend HMG as part of a standard PCT?
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I will be running hcg, 2 dose HMG together then small dose of nolva for my next PCT. I am confident those 3 work for me and the blood results prove it.

also I will be running hcg small doses during cycle 2X per week.. probably 250iu's.. of course if my balls dont react well i will up it to 500.
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
Did u like any of the natty supps for pct bro?

Also how did u dose your HMG
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unleashed before sex or the gym does make a difference for me IMO. i still have some left that I am saving for a hard workout. and i did notice that hcgenerate helped keep my balls while on cycle without having to use hcg.

HMG i dosed once. its 75IU's and you nail it sub Q alongside with hcg. spellwin has a great article on it if you look it up talking about it. you only need 1 or 2 doses. it seems too good to be true but i have to give it respect.
 
stevesmi said:
also I will be running hcg small doses during cycle 2X per week.. probably 250iu's.. of course if my balls dont react well i will up it to 500.
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Steve, I believe this is a good choice, it has worked well for me in the past. You should have no issues at 250iu x 2 per week.
 
stevesmi said:
unleashed before sex or the gym does make a difference for me IMO. i still have some left that I am saving for a hard workout. and i did notice that hcgenerate helped keep my balls while on cycle without having to use hcg.

HMG i dosed once. its 75IU's and you nail it sub Q alongside with hcg. spellwin has a great article on it if you look it up talking about it. you only need 1 or 2 doses. it seems too good to be true but i have to give it respect.
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Nice, I notice unleashed as well. Its cheap too so why not. Im saving that for my PCT

HMG sounds good! I will be using that along with HCGenerate and unleashed/post cycle and sustain alpha.

glad to hear u found somethin that works for u, goes to show u we all have our different preferences.
 
stevesmi said:
unleashed before sex or the gym does make a difference for me IMO. i still have some left that I am saving for a hard workout. and i did notice that hcgenerate helped keep my balls while on cycle without having to use hcg.

HMG i dosed once. its 75IU's and you nail it sub Q alongside with hcg. spellwin has a great article on it if you look it up talking about it. you only need 1 or 2 doses. it seems too good to be true but i have to give it respect.
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So hmg is 75iu all in one shot? Sounds sweet
 
Gr8 post steve, thanks for putting it on here!
 
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Thanks for posting your results bro and keeping us up to date! I do believe that time has a lot to do with your recovery this time around but I'm sure that your pct helped kick start things a little bit.

I'm also doing my 3rd PCT so hopefully it works for me as well. My second PCT showed 280 and my natty is above 950 so we'll see how it goes.
 
winny: yes 75iu's in 1 shot and it comes easy to mix.. no need to refridgerate, just mix and inject in 1 move. only downside is cost but it sure is more convienient then all the hcg injections and mixing/refrid

zed: no problem, i wish more guys would post this data.. it is very helpful in determining time to recover and learning from each others trials and errors

cgar: all in all I have been impressed with my body's rapid recovery. from 119 to 330 in less then 2 months is quite a jump.. i was worried at first that i would be suppressed for a long time. now atleast i can rest easy knowing my body is actually producing a solid amount of test (although its still not back to my pre levels of 500+/-) which is why I am gonna wait another 4-6 weeks before starting my next cycle. by then my body shoul be rolling
 
Steve,
You obviously have taken pct seriously and did a great job which your test confirms. I bet you would be back to your pre cycle levels if you didnt use Deca. I would stick to Test, Primo, Var, Mast from now on. All a man needs :D
 
Hey bros, dont forget that Deca long term in small doses is amazing for us older lifters. It almost is like a second chance for us. 100-175 mg/week, 3-6 mos.
 
Good post! I ran 2 months on, 2 months of over and over for years. The last years Ive been doing maximum of one 12-week cycle a year. The result is normal or better bloodwork between cycle, and Im almost certain that Ive kept much more of the mass Ive gained during cycle, and allso in the long run if looking at a whoule year or even a bigger scale.
 
digit0x said:
I'm about to try this in a couple weeks. test again in a month and let me know? thanks bro
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i dont need to test again. my body is producing test on its own now.

people think your test levels need to be 800 to be good. some guys go on TRT when their levels are 450. sheesh
 
I'm glad you finally recovered but I never doubted you would. I always try to keep HCG at home. It can really work wonders and dont worry about those high doses I do that frequently
 
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