Blood test results - HOW BAD ARE THEY?

[fitwizard]

Blood test results - BYE BYE TO KIDNEYS?

** Guys - HELP **

I'm currently on this cycle:

WK1 1000mg Omna
WK2 1000mg Omna
WK3-10 500mg Omna
WK4-10 150mg Fina EOD
WK11-14 Clomid therapy

In addition:
Letrozole
T3 (4 weeks)
Clen/ECA(2wk/2wk)

I'm CURRENTLY on Week 8 of my cycle.
I did Blood test yesterday and they are already ready, doc personally called and left a message ( I think he's stressed!)

Note that the last blood test I made was 3 years ago and was excellent.

CURRENT Blood test results (WEEK 8 INTO CYCLE)
(I'm not including the results that seem within range)

Creatinine 1.6mg/dL (normal:0.5-1.2)
Creatinine Kinase 504 U/L (normal: 25-170!!!!!!!!!)

CK - MB % 4% (normal 6-25)
AST(GOT) 45 U/L (normal 15-40)
ALT(GPT) 47U/L (normal 4-41)
Total Cholestrol 240 (normal 107-200)
HDL Cholesterol 19mg/dL (normal 35-55)
LDL Cholesterol 206mg/dL

Glucose Negative
Ketones Negative
Protein Trace

All other values seem to be within normal range
Still waiting fir Vitamin B12 & TSH

Questions:

1) How bad is my condition? Concerning the fact this test was done at the 8th weel of my cycle (incl. Fina) Don't forget I'm currently ON.

2) I know liver is a great organism but Kidneys aren't. At Creatinine Kinase 504 U/L (normal: 25-170!!!!!!!!!) How bad is my condition ?

3) Do I need to STOP Fina at once ?? (I still have 3.5 weeks to go at 150mg EOD) Should I stop it or not?

4) Do I need to lay off of Roids and Test ? Or can I extend this cycle to 16 weeks instead of my originally planned 10 ?

Guys. I really do appreciate your help here. That's my first blood test in 3 years. I never did a blood test since I first started juicing (guess IV frightens me)

THANKS!

 

[strengthfiend]

Your blood work was similar to mine when I went into kidney failure last year. I would not continue start hormonal therapy and DO NOT tax your kidneys with hard workouts for a few weeks.

Strengthfiend

 

[strengthfiend]

PS I know my advice sucks, but the time I spent in the hospital was so fucking awful, I can't bear fellow lifter to go through that. Start drinking lot's of water too and stay away from Advil or equivalent.

Strengthfiend

 

[ichabodcrane]

Hey strength, can I ask you about the details of your kidney failure?

 

[strengthfiend]

I was a poster child for stupidity. Thought I was safe from the effects of aas and anti-inflammatories because of my high doses of ala and other detox type supplements. I was so concerned about my liver I never thought about my kidneys. When I went to the kidney specialist he thought that my 2 gram a day use of ibuprofren and high dose of creatine was more detrimental than my 100mg of dbol for 8 weeks. When my kidneys shut down I knew I didn't feel well that was a Friday. I was in complete renal failure and wasn't diagnosed until the following Thursday. I was taken immediately to the hospital and put on a IV. For the next 5 days I was put through one of the greatest trials of my life. Besides having a hard time getting my kidneys to function, I had an overabundance of potassium in my system which was effecting my heart. To make a long story short I ended up with no permanent damage and a very boring, non-training kind of summer. I did learn alot of lessions like sometimes less is more in the long run.

Strengthfiend

 

[thx9000]

Additionally your HDL, LDL, levels and ratios are basically horrendous...

 

[fitwizard]

Just talked with my Doc on the phone

Just talked on the phone with my Doc.

He told me the Creatinine Kinase at 504 U/L doesn't bother him at all and can easily be elevated by physical activity (and he doesn't even know how fucking Intensily I workout).

He told me he initially called be because of my Creatinine (NOT Creatinine Kinase). My test went 1.6mg/dL instead of normal being in te range of 0.5-1.2. It lighted a red light for him, cause I told him that my family had a long long history of Kidney problems (which is true). He told me to jump over when I have time, nothing too urgent he mentioned.

I was asking him regarding my very low 19mg/dL HDL Cholesterol (35-55 being normal) and LDL being 206 mg/dL. He told me it he will take care of it with me and that it doesn't bother him, cause a 28 year old guy like me isn't going to die of low HDL or high LDL levels anyway.

Guess I can continue my cycle and even extend it I will just add Garlic, Niacin and Fishoils and dandelion root to my daily intake.

 

[azdave]

I was just looking at my bloodwork, and I noticed that my creatinine level was 1.0mg/dL and the range was actually 0.6 to 1.5.

FYI, I had my blood work done last week, but I've been off for 6 months.

 

[droid]

Re: Just talked with my Doc on the phone

I just got some offline info from lawnsaver and he said to use two syntrax product that are the gugglesterones for the lipid and radox in addition to the other supps you mentioned here.

DROID.

Guess I can continue my cycle and even extend it I will just add Garlic, Niacin and Fishoils and dandelion root to my daily intake. [/B][/QUOTE]

 

[Spectre]

I am very glad everything worked out ok for you. I am very concerned about everyone but someday it could be me, or you or you.

 

[akrama]

Hey fitwizard,

Did your doctor seem concerned with your AST and ALT liver values? They seem out of range also !!

 

[akrama]

Also... I meant to ask you.. How much water have you been drinking daily?

 

[fitwizard]

Also... I meant to ask you.. How much water have you been drinking daily?

Oh.. I drink a lot. I ONLY drink water, and about 1.5-2.5 gallons a day.

Did your doctor seem concerned with your AST and ALT liver values? They seem out of range also !!

Not at all. Didn't even mention it over the phone. They are not that elevated only very slightly elevated. And to think that I'm week 8 into the cycle and only slightly elevated AST and ALT is comforting. IM Injections cause elevation in these Enzymes. Working out causes elevation of them as well.. I think they are very low considering these facts.

gugglesterones for the lipid and radox in addition to the other supps you mentioned here.

Thanks will check into these right now...

 

[barbell265]

Values are not so bad...

Hey fellas not to worry. The results you mentioned are nothing to get freaked over. The ck is a little elevated,(creatinine kinase), I did one on myself one day after doing supersets of d-bell flys and it was in the neighborhood of 1500! It will be elevated cuz we are ripping down muscles daily by working out. The liver values, ast/alt are going to be high because the liver needs to metabolize the gear your putting in your body. Ast and alt are enzyme shuttles used in specific processes by the liver and due to the increased presence of"toxins" i.e. gear, they will be elevated due to increased need. The hdl/ ldl thing isn't bad either; HDl is another of the bodies shuttles, it binds to free trig. and fats inorder to move them from the blood stream, normal during digestion, to be utilized or stored. Ldl is a low density lipoprotein which I believe will be high when you are burning stored fat for energy, i.e. mornig workout before breakfeast.

Bottom line nothing too bad here, however with your FAMILY HISTORY of renal trouble I would play this one tight and stay in touch with your doc. Don't play games because your PRONE to renal trouble due to your genetic make up given to you by your parents. Be smart and be SAFE!

Barbell265

 

[buffdoc]

The only thing that worries me acutely is the elevated creatinine. By lab values, it puts you in a state of mild renal insufficiency. This needs to be worked up (your kidney status).
All the other stuff is easily explainable from lifting, juicing, and should be easily reversible

 

[Fonz]

Re: Blood test results - BYE BYE TO KIDNEYS?

** Guys - HELP **

I'm currently on this cycle:

WK1 1000mg Omna
WK2 1000mg Omna
WK3-10 500mg Omna
WK4-10 150mg Fina EOD
WK11-14 Clomid therapy

In addition:
Letrozole
T3 (4 weeks)
Clen/ECA(2wk/2wk)

I'm CURRENTLY on Week 8 of my cycle.
I did Blood test yesterday and they are already ready, doc personally called and left a message ( I think he's stressed!)

Note that the last blood test I made was 3 years ago and was excellent.

CURRENT Blood test results (WEEK 8 INTO CYCLE)
(I'm not including the results that seem within range)

Creatinine 1.6mg/dL (normal:0.5-1.2)
Creatinine Kinase 504 U/L (normal: 25-170!!!!!!!!!)

CK - MB % 4% (normal 6-25)
AST(GOT) 45 U/L (normal 15-40)
ALT(GPT) 47U/L (normal 4-41)
Total Cholestrol 240 (normal 107-200)
HDL Cholesterol 19mg/dL (normal 35-55)
LDL Cholesterol 206mg/dL

Glucose Negative
Ketones Negative
Protein Trace

All other values seem to be within normal range
Still waiting fir Vitamin B12 & TSH

Questions:

1) How bad is my condition? Concerning the fact this test was done at the 8th weel of my cycle (incl. Fina) Don't forget I'm currently ON.

2) I know liver is a great organism but Kidneys aren't. At Creatinine Kinase 504 U/L (normal: 25-170!!!!!!!!!) How bad is my condition ?

3) Do I need to STOP Fina at once ?? (I still have 3.5 weeks to go at 150mg EOD) Should I stop it or not?

4) Do I need to lay off of Roids and Test ? Or can I extend this cycle to 16 weeks instead of my originally planned 10 ?

Guys. I really do appreciate your help here. That's my first blood test in 3 years. I never did a blood test since I first started juicing (guess IV frightens me)

THANKS!

Creatine Kinase levels are affected by muscle damage i.e training.

Creatinine is elevated somewhat.

Not overly, but I'd seriously start hydrating myself more.

TSH levels are going to be low IMO.

Fonz