Bill Maher = Shithead.

[Weapon X]

ABC's Vile Bill Maher Calls U.S. Military Cowardly

The evil-tongued Bill Maher is finally getting his comeuppance.

Maher, all too often the chief dunce of political correctness on ABC's hypocritically named "Politically Incorrect," has finally ticked off his advertisers, this time by insulting our men and women in uniform.

"We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away," he said during a rant against the U.S. military. "That's cowardly."

He expressed his admiration for the terrorists who slammed hijacked airliners into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing thousands of Americans.

"Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly," the schlock show host said.

Federal Express and Sears have yanked their ads from the late-night show.

"Sears took this action after reviewing a transcript of the September 17 conversation among Maher and his guests in which the U.S. military was described as cowardly," the retailer said in a statement today.

After receiving a flood of complaints from around the country, Federal Express did likewise.

It's about time. For some reason advertisers didn't seem to mind when Maher "joked" about Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris being murdered or compared retarded children to dogs.

Maher made his comments after Dinesh D'Souza, a panelist on Monday's program, disputed President Bush's reference to the terrorists as cowards.

"These are warriors," D'Souza claimed, "and we have to realize that the principles of our way of life are in conflict with people in the world."

Radio host and station general manager Dan Patrick told the Houston Chronicle: "I was just appalled. When you call our men in the [armed forces] cowards and our military policy cowardly, and when you call these hijackers 'warriors,' that should not be tolerated."

"The First Amendment gives us the freedom of speech, but it does not guarantee anyone a TV show or a TV camera or a radio show, for that matter," Patrick said. "If Bill Maher believes that Americans are cowards and hijackers are warriors, let him go out on the street corner and shout that. But Disney does not have to give him a TV show and Channel 13 does not have to air that show."

ABC issued a statement saying that Maher's show "celebrates freedom of speech and encourages the animated exchange of ideas and opinions. Understandably, this forum can oftentimes arouse intense emotions, especially during such a sensitive time."

"While we remain sensitive to the current climate following last week's tragedy, and continue to do our part to help viewers cope with unfolding events, we have an obligation to offer a forum for the expression of our nation's diverse opinions."

So why not express your diverse opinions to ABC? E-mail: [email protected].

ABC Inc.
500 S. Buena Vista St.
Burbank, CA 91521

 

[BigGuns2]

That son of a bitch needs to have his ass kicked!!

 

[Ingram]

ABC issued a statement saying that Maher's show "celebrates freedom of speech and encourages the animated exchange of ideas and opinions. Understandably, this forum can oftentimes arouse intense emotions, especially during such a sensitive time."

These are HIS opinions and he puts them up for debate on the show. I absolutely disagree with his statements, but I do give the guy credit for speaking his mind.

 

[Y_lifter]

A Politically Incorrect Email has been sent...
thanks for the link...

 

[buksoon]

WeaponX, thanks for the link.

Cowards? F*ck him! So easy to give that little speech from the comfort of his Hollywood studio. How dare he.

I usually like him (he's an ass, but says it like it is), but that's beyond inappropriate. So easy for him to say as young servicemen will face the possibilit of losing their lives. Disgusting.

And calling the hijackers brave???? What an ignorant thing to think, let alone to say.

 

[the nature boy]

I think this guy (Marr) is just screaming for attention.

Why is Bill Marr doing a political TV show? What are his qualifications? Why is he on TV anyway? And what time is his show on? On what network? WB or UPN? His main competition is probably re-runs of Alf or Gimme a Break. Please.

 

[buksoon]

My letter just sent. I suggested the possibility of a network boycott... hopefully that'll get their attention.

 

[gymtime]

I think old Bill revels in playing devil's advocate, and he gets carried away sometimes. I think in his own twisted little way, he's trying to say that we in America make a huge mistake if we underestimate this new enemy.

 

[crash3837]

I think the show Politically Incorrect has great potential,,, but not with the host being Bill Maher.
Most of the time Bill Maher is a retard on his show, I usually just turn the channel whenever I see him on because he annoys me so much.
I don't beleive that the people who slammed into the the world trade center performed a cowardly act,,, what they did was sick and crazy.
I believe that the people who organized this who are still alive and walking and who brainwash others to perform such acts as these are cowardly.

 

[crash3837]

By saying this I am not patting anyone on the back saying that they are courageous warriors for these acts either.

 

[Drizzt]

.........

Fuck Bill Mahr that lil bitch. He is lucky he doesn't say that shit outta the "saftey net" of his little tv studio. I would beat the fuck outta that middle aged cocksmoker fucking sonuvabitch can go 2 afgan with the rest of the terrorists and marvel at the bomb we drop on his fucking head.

Drizz

 

[RyanH]

You simply don't like Bill Maher b/c he puts the right wing conservative radicals, like yourself, in their places.

He has the right to his opinion. Go Bill!!!! I don't agree with his opinion on this issue, but in 95% of the cases he's right in almost everything he says.

 

[Gilbyag]

Re: Re: Bill Maher = Shithead.

These are HIS opinions and he puts them up for debate on the show. I absolutely disagree with his statements, but I do give the guy credit for speaking his mind.

DITTO! No one here has to agree with what he said, I sure as hell do not. AGAIN, this still IS AMERICA, Freedom of speech is still the 1st Amendment. Sponsors can pull their $, you can turn the channel. The last thing I wanna see is those fuckers "winning" by the U.S. starting to muzzels on what any of us have to say.

 

[cm3504jm]

Basically he's committing career suicide.

See ya Bill.

 

[dballer]

That son of a bitch needs to have his ass kicked!!

He is a commie left-wing marxist. He should be deported to Afgan. before we erase it!!!!!

 

[gymnpoppa]

For one

thing, he should know that lobbing cruise missiles is a White House decision, most ground soldiers would rather go in and fight on the ground than through the air. Poor choice of debate there. What the terrorists did wasn't brave, it was the act of a brainwashed fanatic. Again he could see where he wanted to go, but didn't know how to construct his comments. Usually he's pretty good. Funny at times.

 

[Milhouse]

He is just speaking his mind out of frustration.

I mean c'mon how many stupid comments have been made here the past week.

This kinda reminds me of when some of you guys get wayyyy too riled up over anything Ryan H says

Bill is just playing Devil's Advocate.

Personally speaking I think if the whole free world had of spent the last 10 years protecting our right to be free rather than fucking around with all this politically correct horseshit these tyoes of situations may have been avoided.

I remember readin someones thread a few weeks ago about how a few whiners in the marines have changed the way they get trained, ie being sensitive.

Well we can all be sensitive, but if we dont have killer instinct still in us someone can and will take over no matter how big and tough anyone is.

Anyways I think some of ya's should read between the lines of what he is really trying to say. Bottom line though whether we like it or not, it does take balls to hijack a plane and fly it into a world renknowned building.Cowardly act?yep! Takes balls? Damn right!

And FYI Bill is actually a libertarian from what I understand.

 

[Wombat]

I saw the show and really couldn't believe he called our military cowards. The problem with Bill Maher is he has no depth in anything he says. I think he would be better as a guest on the show then a host. His main purpose in life is hanging out at the playboy mansion.

 

[Kakdiesel]

DID ANYBODY KNOW THIS?

Barbara Olson, a polical analyst from Washington DC, died in the flight on her way to NYC to do Bill's show...she was on the airplane that crashed into the WTC i believe..

anyways, how big of an asshole must Bill feel like? this woman who was a regular on his show, was on the airplane cuz she was flying in to do HIS SHOW..that would sit pretty heavy on my heart..

I mean he did honor her that night cuz he left the chair she was suppose to sit in, vacant..

but that is still some fucked up shit..

and again, I dont agree with what bill said, but like others have said in his defense, he has every right to say that. we are going to war with terrorists to defend our freedom...those soldiers flying to the Middle East maybe dying for our right to capitalism, democracy, and even the right for people to speak freely--regardless of how fucked up it is

 

[buksoon]

You guys are right. Free speech and all that. I DON'T want Maher fired over this.

Just got emotional because... "cowards"? Don't we know servicemen and woman who would (and WILL) give up their lives?

And there he is with this "bully pulpit" in Hollywood. And anything that even sounds remotely like praise for the hijackers... I just lose my mind.

These hijackers believe that dying in such a "noble" way as attacking the "devil" that is America will earn them a spot a divine afterlife. It's not bravery so much as it is booking real estate in their equivalent of Heaven.

Sorry if I don't know all the details of their religion, and for my emotionalism. Yes, you "cooler heads" are definitely right.

(Still felt good to send the letter, though.)

 

[Y_lifter]

He has the right to speak freely on his show as long as it meets FCC reg.'s

I have the right to send an Email to ABC speaking my mind.

Advertisers have the right to pull sponsorship from the show.

ABC(Disney) has the right to Fire his Ass for business reasons.

Isn't America great?

 

[chesty]

Freedom of speech my ass! He insulted every single person that has ever served this country! He as far as I am concerned is a traitor. If we are supposed to read between the lines then say what is between the lines. He is a fool and I pitty him.

Just like the Florida firefighters that refused to ride on their fire truck because it was sporting the American flag. They said it offended them. The engineer obliged and took it down. The two are on suspension or something like that. I think the engineer should be as well. And they, all three should be executed for treasonous and traitorous acts, period!

 

[Kakdiesel]

Chesty, i feel where you are coming from..believe me, i would never agree with what Bill Maher had said..

but trust me, like I've posted before, gettin TOO worked up about this is fighting the wrong battles..these kinda of things will happen alot down the road.

i think america should keep their heads up high and concentrate on the task at hand..

no flame man..just my two cents

 

[May1010]

I agree with Mr. Maher 95% of the time. I did not happen to see the show when he made these statements. Assuming that what Weapon X wrote is an accurate transcript of what Mr. Maher said, this would be one of those times that I disagree with Mr. Maher.

However, I will fight for his right to express his ideas.


Shame on the rest of you for wanting to silence him. You find him offensive, don't watch his show ... but you have no write to try and get him taken off the air. I, for one, find his show thought provoking and entertaining and I learn a lot about the world in which I live ...


Love and big wet kisses,
May1010

 

[r00+]

Who else

Anyone know who the other sponsors are for his show?

I feel the need to express myself, just like Bill has.

 

[May1010]

... and just for the record,


My own gay community was wrong to boycott the Dr. Laura show after she called gays "biological defects." From a scientific perspective, she was absolutely 100% correct. We are biological defects.

Dr. Laura has a right to express her opinions and it saddened me when the gay community silenced her. Talk about a lack of tolerance for others! We were hypocritical.


Nuff said.

 

[Milhouse]

I am starting to see a trend here where we are slamming each other because of what we think or because of who we are regardless of race, releigion etc...


Now the fucksticks who did this come from countries that are like this. Don't be like this over someone playing devil's advocate, because then you let those motherfuckers win.

 

[HamHock]

Free speech is great and wonderful, blah..blah, however, television is all about ratings and economics. If someone offends enough viewers and sponsors, they will not and can not remain on network television. If you're so concerned about hearing free speech, watch cable access programs after midnight.

I actually enjoyed his show, but I will never watch it again.

 

[spentagn]

I used to like his show, especially when it was on comedy central. But over the years he has gone farther and farther to the left, which significantly detracts from the show's appeal, IMO. I liked it much better when he was down the middle. Oh yeah, I liked the O'Riley Factor better when he was more down the middle as well.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Bill Maher can thank the Liberal jackasses who have handcuffed our CIA from doing what it needs to do. We can all than Torricelli for this. What a fucking moron. I just hope people wake up and vote the liberals out of office.

 

[Y_lifter]

The Network would not be removing him from the air because of what he said.
They cancel/censor for $$$$ reasons from sponsors...

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

but you have no write to try and get him taken off the air.

What you are saying then is that the opinions of the network audience don't matter? We just have to sit there and watch whatever?

Viewers have every right to try to get him off the air, as long as they use legal means. If people want him off the air, and they stop watching, then guess what? he goes away.

It sems that I have the right to watch or not watch whatever I want.

 

[RyanH]

Freedom of speech my ass! He insulted every single person that has ever served this country! He as far as I am concerned is a traitor. If we are supposed to read between the lines then say what is between the lines. He is a fool and I pitty him.

So anyone who disagrees with the United States is a traitor? Then I guess in many instances we are all traitors. A fool he is not.....A bright man he is indeed.

KaKDiesel, quit trying to kiss everyone's ass. For once, say what you believe. You can't have it both ways.

 

[musclepump20]

This is a touchy subject to say the least. Bush was right when he said the terrorists were cowards, reason being they died doing what they set out to do, so they do not have to live with their actions. It took guts to do, but it was also pretty fucking stupid, let alone cowardly. They were fuckin crazy anyway, your head isn't on straight when you slam jets into buildings. Brave? Fuck no. What our military does is SMART, lobbing missiles from 2,000 miles away. Someones should launch assfuck Mahr 2,000 miles away. He entitled to his opinion, but it was a stupid one.

 

[Stillhere]

Maher has just insulted our men in uniform.


Maher is a DEGENERATE.




peace

 

[manny78]

... and just for the record,


My own gay community was wrong to boycott the Dr. Laura show after she called gays "biological defects." From a scientific perspective, she was absolutely 100% correct. We are biological defects.

Dr. Laura has a right to express her opinions and it saddened me when the gay community silenced her. Talk about a lack of tolerance for others! We were hypocritical.


Nuff said.

Well said. At leats not everyone on this board is low minded.....

 

[talonracer]

Anyone who says Maher is "liberaterian" is plain wrong, he's a bona-fide liberal who pines for socialism and would elect Stalin if he had the chance.

On another note its always recognized that suicide is the last act of a coward-its the easy way out of life. So where does Maher get that these guys are hero's?? They were cowards.

 

[May1010]

. ... but you have no write to try and get him taken off the air.

My apologies to all of Elite for my use of the word "write" when I meant to say "right."

 

[Kakdiesel]

So anyone who disagrees with the United States is a traitor? Then I guess in many instances we are all traitors. A fool he is not.....A bright man he is indeed.

KaKDiesel, quit trying to kiss everyone's ass. For once, say what you believe. You can't have it both ways.

Wanna know what I believe on this topic? Bill Mahr was blowing off steam just like millions of americans have the past 9 days...I dont think he truly thought about what he was saying before he said it, and even if he did, like others have said, he is the type of person who likes to play devil's advocate to make others think..thats his job on his show, as the host..not to be boring, conservative,and to "go along with da flow" so to speak..he is using the same tactics that have always made his show popular..that is why ABC picked his show up...

Look at what Dennis Miller says on his show on HBO..they are both comedians to speak on politics from a different point of view to make others laugh, enraged, etc...just to get a reaction..its their job.

I dont think it should be called treason..But I DO understand why people are pissed at what he said--unfortunately, I think thats what he tried to do..make americans pissed off and take a step back and look at all of this in a different point of view.

NO ass kissing here Ryan H..I'm a liberal, democrat just like yourself..I share many of the same views you do. Maybe I'm just too liberal..Maybe I respect everybody else's opinoin too much and take into account their ideas and views too much..but thats me.

NO flame..just clearing all of this up for ya

 

[RyanH]

Wanna know what I believe on this topic? Bill Mahr was blowing off steam just like millions of americans have the past 9 days...I dont think he truly thought about what he was saying before he said it, and even if he did, like others have said, he is the type of person who likes to play devil's advocate to make others think..thats his job on his show, as the host..not to be boring, conservative,and to "go along with da flow" so to speak..he is using the same tactics that have always made his show popular..that is why ABC picked his show up...

Look at what Dennis Miller says on his show on HBO..they are both comedians to speak on politics from a different point of view to make others laugh, enraged, etc...just to get a reaction..its their job.

I dont think it should be called treason..But I DO understand why people are pissed at what he said--unfortunately, I think thats what he tried to do..make americans pissed off and take a step back and look at all of this in a different point of view.

I agree with most of your statement.

 

[Kakdiesel]

ok then what do you NOT agree with? and are you satisfied wiht me taking my stand?

by the way, where the green at in hotlanta? LOL I live on Roswell Road by the way..

i see a lot of mexicanos but no green..heheheh havent smoked in a month almost

 

[chesty]

He did not make statements of disagreement with the US he called the US and its military cowards. I wish this was back during the reign of the Roman Empire. This situation and all like him as well as the terrorists would already have been dealt with.

nuff said.

 

[The Dude]

From what I've heard of his statements, taken in context, they were aimed at the man making the decisions. That, of course, would be Bill Clinton. He didn't have the balls to call him out though. What a Hollywood shocker!!

 

[r00+]

Draft his ass

I say draft Bill's ass, put him at the front.

Then we'll see who the cowards are.

 

[musclebrains]

I agree, lots of people are reactively blowing off steam. On the other hand, I have also wondered how in hell spending several years in preparation for killing yourself by flying a huge airplane into a skyscraper is cowardly. It is many things but cowardice isn´t a word that quite fits. Nor, under the ideology of the jihad, is it stupid.

Perhaps we can say it is immoral by most of the world´s secular standards.

 

[Shrebly]

Wow, what a little bee's nest this has become.

First of all, to put up a few of the lines from the show is wrong. Read the entire transcript before you pop off with your insults, comments and heated suggestions.

Maher throws out topics and lets the people in the forum debate them. While someof his topics have been boring - the WTC bombing show [and the re-runs] got some nice percentage points.

I hate to say it - but most people who present points or topics on this board only present one side of the issue. Two sponsers may have pulled out - but tons of other ones have taken their place. [some of those companies include Oscar Meyer, Chevrolet and Iams pet food]

Someone said that what he said offended those that served in the military. I served in the military and I wasn't offended. If actions were taken about 8 years ago when Bin Laden was visible - we would have never had the WTC bombing.

While some of you might call for Maher's head on a stick and sent little letters to the network - so you honestly think any amount of public outcry is going to get him off the air? Sorry, that isn't what it's all about - it's all about money and if people are watching the show that means money.

Everyone needs a big fat dose of valium and a thorazine chaser. If you think you can do a better job - get your own show on cable access instead of sitting on Elite and being a cyber-toughguy.

 

[thebabydoc]

You simply don't like Bill Maher b/c he puts the right wing conservative radicals, like yourself, in their places.

He has the right to his opinion. Go Bill!!!! I don't agree with his opinion on this issue, but in 95% of the cases he's right in almost everything he says.

I wasn't sure of it but this pushes it over the edge.

You couldn't possibly be for real or believe any of the stuff you have been putting up Ryan. I think there are better ways to get a point across than to incessantly play the Devil's advocate. This "straw man" thing of yours has gone too far in that your straw man no longer lacks the credibility necessary to ellicit responses from those intelligent enough for you to desire a response from. Try again.

 

[buksoon]

for Maher's head on a stick and sent little letters to the network - so you honestly think any amount of public outcry is going to get him off the air?

Shrebly, just got a problem with what "little letters" implies. It suggests that we "lil letter writers" are naive and feckless.

But our power to change anything really is ... well, miniscule. Does that mean don't let your voice be heard? Hell no! Maybe the aggregate effect of the tiny voices (or "little letters") will register with someone in power, somewhere.

But even if it doesn't, still make whatever noise you want. You could argue that our one "little votes" don't matter either. On some level, sure that's true. But c'mon....

If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, this is a case where it still falls. 'Cause, you know, the tree knows. Or something. (Sorry, it's early.)

 

[RyanH]

I wasn't sure of it but this pushes it over the edge.

You couldn't possibly be for real or believe any of the stuff you have been putting up Ryan. I think there are better ways to get a point across than to incessantly play the Devil's advocate. This "straw man" thing of yours has gone too far in that your straw man no longer lacks the credibility necessary to ellicit responses from those intelligent enough for you to desire a response from. Try again.

I believe everything I write.

If you don't like what you see, simply don't read it.

It's that easy.

 

[Hogdude]

Maher is an asshole...Nuff said

 

[scott825]

Fuck Bill Mahr !!! He is nothing but a fucking bleeding heart liberal!

 

[RealDeal]

Bill Mahr = Shithead.

I think the thread title says it all.

Those of you who stick up for the jackass to speak his mind...fine, he has every right to do so in this country. It's just unfortunate that he is nationally televised when doing so. He's an asshole, pure and simple.

And Shrebly, he doesn't just "throw out topics" to his guests to debate. He's always very active in the conversation, spouting his opinion on the topic. I haven't watched his show very often, and that's because every time I do, some dumbfuck comment he makes pisses me off. Every so often he'll get a smile or nod from me, but then I can always bet on him making a jackass of himself 5 minutes later. If I ever happen to stop the channel on his show, I'm moving on within 5-10 minutes at most. Nobody was taking those lines out of context...that's very difficult to do when he was so blatantly obvious...for all intended purposes (I'm sure) he was telling America to bend over so he could shove it up our asses. I'm sure May1010 would've dropped 'em and bent over to Bill.

And May, WE HAVE EVERY "WRIGHT" TO TRY AND SILENCE HIM...THAT COMES WITH BEING AMERICAN AS WELL!

I agree, he does love to play Devil's Advocate...maybe he wants the attention, but the hell if that's the kind of attention most of us would ever want. He enjoys pissing people off. He enjoys "going against the grain".

If someone took a sniper rifle to his temple, I'd not feel an ounce of sorrow for him. Whatd'ya say Chesty?

 

[Zebo]

I totally agree that he has a right to free speech.
Just as people have the right to boycott his sponsors products and services.
But he should have known better than to use what a lot of Americans (high on stress right now) would view as inflammatory remarks. Virtually everyone has an American flag in their hand, on the cars, etc. and he uses that terminolgy for our military/soldiers? Just throw gas on a fucking fire why don't you?

My opinion, just like many others in the media/entertainment industry he got his name in the papers. Whats the old saying?
"there's no such thing as bad publicity".....
His ratings are up for his time slot and his producers are riding the wave of controversy. Folks, remember what medium we're talking about, television, not the best instrument for measuring intelligence. Just my opinion.
You're all better than that, we've got some intelligent young people in here that are in reactionary mode. Understandable.
Don't let the words of this little prick television host distract you from the real issue: that we're up to our as in trouble right now, and our world has changed forever........

ps. Besides who can take a guy seriously, whose major credit is the movie "DC Cab" and some out of the way smoky comedy clubs.

Peace to you all......

 

[spongebob]

hes either a very knowledgable idiot(speaking before thinking of consequences) or hes screaming for attension. but he does this nightly!

 

[huntmaster]

You simply don't like Bill Maher b/c he puts the right wing conservative radicals, like yourself, in their places.

He has the right to his opinion. Go Bill!!!! I don't agree with his opinion on this issue, but in 95% of the cases he's right in almost everything he says.

His show consists of four liberals vs. one conservative usually.
and many times they still dont win.

I'll tell you what cracks me up---He would defend a liberal in almost any circumstance. Very closed minded.

 

[FrankRizzo]

It is about time that little liberal utopianist gets recognized for being an idiot. He is a socialist that believes everyone else should be one too. He has no clue. He has made equally stupid statements in the past, it's just that this one finally got exposed as being as idiotic as it was.

He stacks the sides so unfairly in favor of liberals that it is sickening. He'll bring on some weak minded conservative and sic three liberals that are well versed and very aware of the topics that will be discusssed prior to the show. He si NOT right. He wants to push big government on everyone whether they like it or not. He feels that he is so righteous that his way of thinking needs to be put into law. Fuck freedom, eh?

Bill Maher is right...shut the fuk up!

Ever notice how liberals are usually substandard? Little, puny, funny looking or ungifted in some physical manner??? No wonder they abhor the thought of anything "survival of the fittest", they couldn't keep pace and they'd lose.

 

[spongebob]

You simply don't like Bill Maher b/c he puts the right wing conservative radicals, like yourself, in their places.

He has the right to his opinion. Go Bill!!!! I don't agree with his opinion on this issue, but in 95% of the cases he's right in almost everything he says.

i thought his opinion was just that. if its just his opinion how can he be right in 95% of the things he sez? and by the way to use your methodology , i guess im right 100% of the time including this one.

 

[J-Ro]

Ok, everybody listen up!!!

Maher's statements were taken out of context, so the little except that you read probably seemed like he was against the military and generally unpatriotic.

On the contrary, Maher has been very vocal about his support of the military. He continiually says they're unpaid and underappreciated. His remarks were directed at the lawmakers who sought an easy answer (lobbing cruise missles from long range) rather than approaching the situations head on, and coming up with a real answer that might not be politically correct. I.e. American casualties

Bill Maher opens great dialogue on subjects and gives alternate points of view. Wether or not you agree with him, he makes some asounding, relevant points.

In the future, don't go nuts on what you read in a small passage taken out context. This stuff was dredged up by media low-lives who have nothing better to do with their time. I myself watched the show live, and didn't even blink when he said those things, because I knew what he meant.

 

[Wrought]

J-Ro is right on here. Maher has constantly bitched about how pussy the US military has gotten because of the overly liberal policies that act to lower the bar so that all the weak little shits can feel like they belong where they really don't.
For all of you knee jerk reactionary dimwit sheeple that's the whole GD point here, does it have to be spelt out for you. The US army has been so feminized that it has been reduced to primarily lobbing cruise missles and relying on technology as opposed to the kind of hands on brutality that is real true war.
I don't care what any of you say, I consider it to be a cowardly (but tactically intelligent) act to sit on a battleship and fire missiles rather than get in there and show the bastards what a bayonet is really for. An intelligent coward would stand 1000 miles away and press a button, but a true soldier would stand toe to toe with his enemy and look him in the eye.

There is no honor in simply pressing a button.

 

[spongebob]

For all of you knee jerk reactionary dimwit sheeple that's the whole GD point here, does it have to be spelt out for you. The US army has been so feminized that it has been reduced to primarily lobbing cruise missles and relying on technology as opposed to the kind of hands on brutality that is real true war.
I don't care what any of you say, I consider it to be a cowardly (but tactically intelligent) act to sit on a battleship and fire missiles rather than get in there and show the bastards what a bayonet is really for.

There is no honor in simply pressing a button. [/B]

its not the fault of the men and woman in the military that the govt has done this to them. i think you missed the GD point! bill maher should have not used the word military in is statement, thats what people are pissed off about. and just because people have an opinion doesnt make them sheeple. and as far as your superior attitude,....go fuck yo mutha!
have you served in the military?

 

[buksoon]

Woah, Wrought

You use the word "feminized" (?) as a synonym for weakened and depleted of strength and power?

Real classy. I just love a man who respects women!

And the question of honor? Ohhhhh jeez. What can I say? I posted a thread about Maher on Leno that addresses that the "honor" issue. Don't wanna repeat myself here.

 

[J-Ro]

its not the fault of the men and woman in the military that the govt has done this to them. i think you missed the GD point! bill maher should have not used the word military in is statement, thats what people are pissed off about. and just because people have an opinion doesnt make them sheeple. and as far as your superior attitude,....go fuck yo mutha!
have you served in the military?

I know it's not their fault, and Bill Maher says this too. He wants the politicians to let the military the their job that they're trained so well to do. Let the military do their job!

 

[spongebob]

I know it's not their fault, and Bill Maher says this too. He wants the politicians to let the military the their job that they're trained so well to do. Let the military do their job!

thank you for a decent response, i dont know why wrought had to act like hes so superior to others with a different opinion. and for the record this lastest word "sheeple" is old already.

anyways i agree with you but my piont is maher should have specifically said who he meant(the clinton admin) not the military. he used the wrong word. and like i said in another post, we to must question mahers' motives, he does have ratings to protect. i was in the military and i also question my govt its a love hate relationship. anyways peace.

 

[EVE]

The US army has been so feminized

What a chump choice of wording.

 

[Wrought]

anyways i agree with you but my piont is maher should have specifically said who he meant(the clinton admin) not the military. he used the wrong word. and like i said in another post, we to must question mahers' motives, he does have ratings to protect. i was in the military and i also question my govt its a love hate relationship. anyways peace.

Well I'll agree with you that he could have mentioned the Clinton admin. But just to be cranky I'm going to make a unpopular point.

(Climbing onto soapbox )

We live in a free society, our government is supposed to respond to the will of the people, and since the people (military included) did not vehemently oppose the changes then they must accept the responsibility for allowing it, this goes for everything and to deny it is to either deny the precepts of our society or to be hypocritical.
Therefore it is the military's fault, as it is the general populations fault that these changes have come to pass.......blablabla....zzzzz...

(Climbing off soapbox, waits patiently for flames )

What a chump choice of wording.

 

[spongebob]

Well I'll agree with you that he could have mentioned the Clinton admin. But just to be cranky I'm going to make a unpopular point.

(Climbing onto soapbox )

We live in a free society, our government is supposed to respond to the will of the people, and since the people (military included) did not vehemently oppose the changes then they must accept the responsibility for allowing it, this goes for everything and to deny it is to either deny the precepts of our society or to be hypocritical.
Therefore it is the military's fault, as it is the general populations fault that these changes have come to pass.......blablabla....zzzzz...

(Climbing off soapbox, waits patiently for flames )

the key word in your first sentence is "supposed to". you dont think the military vehemently opposed the govts military budget cuts? when i served it was under bush sr. i dont recall alot of complaints about cutbacks at that time. they were begging people to stay in. the 8yrs clinton was in the military was drastically reduced.
the military and the general population do not act as one entity as you can see on this board. we are not one big voting block. thats like saying that the problems in the black community is the entire fault of the black race.
there is one thing i do know for sure and this was proven by gen schwartskoff(sp). cause he wanted to take out saddam like a true warrior, but bush admin said no.
most military people will tell you that they are willing to do the job and do it right.
i encourage people questioning our govt. i did it when i served and i do it now.
but there are always two sides two every story and a show like bill mahers usually presents only one.
just my opinion, but mahers show is nonthing more than rhetorical opinions to satisfy the people who dont watch the discovery channel.
no hard feelings here bro!

 

[gymnpoppa]

the key word in your first sentence is "supposed to". you dont think the military vehemently opposed the govts military budget cuts? when i served it was under bush sr. i dont recall alot of complaints about cutbacks at that time. they were begging people to stay in. the 8yrs clinton was in the military was drastically reduced.
the military and the general population do not act as one entity as you can see on this board. we are not one big voting block. thats like saying that the problems in the black community is the entire fault of the black race.
there is one thing i do know for sure and this was proven by gen schwartskoff(sp). cause he wanted to take out saddam like a true warrior, but bush admin said no.
most military people will tell you that they are willing to do the job and do it right.
i encourage people questioning our govt. i did it when i served and i do it now.
but there are always two sides two every story and a show like bill mahers usually presents only one.
just my opinion, but mahers show is nonthing more than rhetorical opinions to satisfy the people who dont watch the discovery channel.
no hard feelings here bro!

Ex-military here, I agree with you 100%.