Big bulking cycle

[LostCauze]

10 weeks of Dbol is a bit excessive for a toxic oral

That's kinda what i thought but he said if i jump down the dose to 20mg at week 6 I'll be okay. And if I'm that worried to get my liver values checked at week 7 or so.

One thing i was thinking was maybe running it week 1-5 then jump off and run orals again weeks 10-14

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[LostCauze]

Throw a list steroid names into a hat.

Throw it up in the air.

Pick a handful of 4 or 5 off the floor.

That's a cycle.


(Or at least one that makes as much sense as so many).

Please make some suggestions then! What would you recommend?

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[LostCauze]

Haha I always love Nelson's input, and I have to say I agree with him. Is competing for a trophy worth the possible long term effects of such extreme cycles?

Honestly is it really that extreme? Yeah it's pretty heavy but I mean honestly I don't think it's that outrageous. If I did I wouldn't have ever posted it here.
And it's not about a trophy or none of that. It's about what I want to become. I might never step on stage and I'm okay with that.

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[Nelson Montana]

Please make some suggestions then! What would you recommend?

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My point is, anything works. Cycles aren't just a combination of random steroids. It's an approach. And bulking is about diet, not some magic combination of roids.

You got "advice" and no mention of dosages. That alone should tell you the advice is worthless.

You've already been told that 10 weeks is too much for an oral. WHat do you want to know? How to prepare for a show? At what point? How far off are you? Do you know how to protect yourself and make the most of your gains? Do you have a PCT or on you on HRT. That's what matters. Anyone can say do this and that.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

At 25, 183 lbs. and as your 4th cycle I would say yes it's a little overkill. Also I don't know why the guy calls it a 20 lb. cycle, it's not like you'll pack on 20 lbs. of muscle from taking all that gear, hell I could gain 20 lbs. on any one of those compounds in the matter of a couple months. As others have said bulking comes down to diet, not by taking dbol for 10 weeks, but hey if he said you'll be ok by halving your dose then who am I to say otherwise. What it comes down to for me is that you're 25 and fairly new to the game, why not stick with combinations that you can build off in the future. I know you want to be swole and ripped up like rambo but it's going to take time to get there regardless of what you take. If you do a cycle like this now then what in the world is your next one going to look like? Don't get me wrong it's not all that outrageous but where are you going to go from here?

 

[LostCauze]

My point is, anything works. Cycles aren't just a combination of random steroids. It's an approach. And bulking is about diet, not some magic combination of roids.

You got "advice" and no mention of dosages. That alone should tell you the advice is worthless.

You've already been told that 10 weeks is too much for an oral. WHat do you want to know? How to prepare for a show? At what point? How far off are you? Do you know how to protect yourself and make the most of your gains? Do you have a PCT or on you on HRT. That's what matters. Anyone can say do this and that.

I should've been more clear. The only dosage that he didn't talk about was throwing in mast.
I agree that 10 weeks is a long time to run an oral. Honestly I'd rather run an oral at the front and tail end of the cycle as I feel this has better results and eliminates some of liver issues.

I'm not prepping for a show currently and not for a while. My life is too consumed with other things right now. Maybe in the future. But yeah he thought I was already prepping for a show atm. That's what everyone at my gym thinks and a lot of them do shows. I've buckled down on my diet and spent the last year basically mastering it. I know exactly what works and doesn't work for me as far as diet goes.
Also my pct is "the perfect pct" which I got from you I belive and I respond amazing to it.

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[bonacris]

Instead of mast. How about var at the end of the cycle. The combo of var and tren is wicked..

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[LostCauze]

Instead of mast. How about var at the end of the cycle. The combo of var and tren is wicked..

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That would be a great way to tail it! Thanks bro

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[Nelson Montana]

I should've been more clear. The only dosage that he didn't talk about was throwing in mast.
I agree that 10 weeks is a long time to run an oral. Honestly I'd rather run an oral at the front and tail end of the cycle as I feel this has better results and eliminates some of liver issues.

I'm not prepping for a show currently and not for a while. My life is too consumed with other things right now. Maybe in the future. But yeah he thought I was already prepping for a show atm. That's what everyone at my gym thinks and a lot of them do shows. I've buckled down on my diet and spent the last year basically mastering it. I know exactly what works and doesn't work for me as far as diet goes.
Also my pct is "the perfect pct" which I got from you I belive and I respond amazing to it.

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It sounds like you know what you're doing so I'll reiterate my point...what's so special about this guys's suggestions? As for the mast, I'm a fan, but it will not put on any muscle. It's purely cosmetic and short lived. I did an article at evo about contest prep and mentioned mast as a must -- but that's to look as hard and defined as possible for contest time. I have no idea why someone would suggest that for a bulking cycle.

 

[RickRock13]

I agree with Nelson that adding Masteron makes no sense for your goals