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Better than hcgenerate? How's this compare?

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I mean it has everything hcgenerate has and more. Even stuff to promote heArt health

From Nutrabolics Hemotest 30 bucks

Fenugreek Extract (Standardized For 50% Fenuside),
F. Agrestis (Fadogia Agrestis),
Cissus Quadrangularis (Ketosteroid Extract Standardized For 40% Total Ketosterones), Epimedium Sagittatum (Extract standardized for 50% lcariin),
Eurycoma Longifolia Extract Standardized For 22% Eurypeptides,
Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestris (Extract Standardized For 40% Protodioscin),
Moomiyo (Extract Standardized For 15% Fulvic Acid),
Dodder Seed (Extract Standardized For 2.5% Flavonoids),
Rhosea (Extract Standardized For 4% Rosavin),
White Button Mushroom (Extract Standardized For 25% Polysaccharides),
Linium Usitatissimum Powder.
Japanese Pagoda Tree Extract,
Gotu Kola,
Horse Chestnut,
Butchers Broom,
Hawthorn Berry,
Ginger.
 
HCGenerate still wins on weight alone. When you look at the label on Hemo Test, it says the "Hemotest Proprietary blend 2,200mg", so you are only getting 2,200mg combined off all of those ingredients and that is a tiny amount. HCGenerate has 1,000 of Fadogia and 1,000 of fenugreek, 500mg of Tribulus and keep couting, the total formula weight is over 5,000mg of active ingredient in Hcgenerate you are getting per day vs 2,200mg of hemotest per day.

HCGenerate's fadogia is different than the majority of fadogia products on the market because of the extract involved. All fadogia products are not created equal.

Hands down Hcgenerate wins on value and effectiveness.
 
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Hard to say how it compares without testing it out. Just because the ingredients are the same doesn't mean the ingredients are as good of quality or have the same amount of each particular one. All I can say is buy them both and try them out.

Edit: pretty much rickrock summed it up. I was in the middle of writing when he posted.
 
33 at supp warehouse. 60 for 2 @ gnc.

im looking at mg to mg of ingredients which isn't everything b/c of quality. can't find jack for reviews which doesn't look good.

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First thing I don't like about it is the Proprietary Blend.
Serving Size 3 tablets (2,200mg) and because it's a prop. blend I bet it doesn't contain as much Fadogia as the HCGenerate.
 
Fadogia is very fickle as the Tforce fadogia was amazing for libido, but the Iforce one did NOTHING. Sourcing is quite important, and is why HCGenerate is always out of stock. Only the best raws are sourced.
 
Hc Generate is the best Fadogia supp out there. Some may try to imitate but the proof is in the product. You get what you pay for especially when it comes to supps.
 
so to those making claims that erase is bad, any proof to back those statements
 
i know this, just because someone tries to duplicate something, does not mean they will be the same... there are a million instances i can think of that have to do with this... say for instance you have your grandma's secret cookie recipe and you try to make it the same way she did... chances are: YOU WON'T... whether its her special pan, her magic touch, what the fuck ever, it won't be the same... why are cars that are constructed exactly the same, well one made in a certain country is still proven better than another? why when ford took over jaguar did it turn into shit, even though they were technically using the same parts? You see what I'm saying... I could go on with examples for a fucking year... Just because something is duplicated, doesn't mean its replicated... =)
 
stevesmi said:
guys post this in the right forum.

and if its sold at GNC its trash. probably has 1/5th the ingredients hcgenerate has. hcgenerate is proven to work and is legit. stuff like this is just sold as a cheap alternative to trick people into buying it.
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Steve said it...cheap alternative, but hey I am not going to say anything bad about a product that I have not tried, it wouldn't be intelligent of me. This is the way I look at it for myself...I have spent endless $$$ on supplements having big claims, the pro bodybuilder all ripped in the ad, and being brainwashed into this is the be all of end all supplements to get you huge and ripped like this guy you see here in this ad...I have already tried enough supplements over the years that I wish I could get all my money back from them...I have tried and do use HCGenerate, and it works! So for me to walk away from this product it would be because I am broke...I found a product that works extremely well for me, I am not going to waste my hard earned cash...which doesn't come easy anymore, on a what if? Hcgenerate is legit, its ingredients are proven and very high quality, so that is where my money is going...if others want to go and try supplements claiming to be as good go right ahead, let us know how they work for you...that means more HCGenerate for us as it always sells out fast. Enjoy!

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muscleaddiction said:
Steve said it...cheap alternative, but hey I am not going to say anything bad about a product that I have not tried, it wouldn't be intelligent of me. This is the way I look at it for myself...I have spent endless $$$ on supplements having big claims, the pro bodybuilder all ripped in the ad, and being brainwashed into this is the be all of end all supplements to get you huge and ripped like this guy you see here in this ad...I have already tried enough supplements over the years that I wish I could get all my money back from them...I have tried and do use HCGenerate, and it works! So for me to walk away from this product it would be because I am broke...I found a product that works extremely well for me, I am not going to waste my hard earned cash...which doesn't come easy anymore, on a what if? Hcgenerate is legit, its ingredients are proven and very high quality, so that is where my money is going...if others want to go and try supplements claiming to be as good go right ahead, let us know how they work for you...that means more HCGenerate for us as it always sells out fast. Enjoy!

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Very well said MA! And you mean if I take cell tech I won't look like?..........Damn.......LMAO
 
mattrag said:
Fadogia is very fickle as the Tforce fadogia was amazing for libido, but the Iforce one did NOTHING. Sourcing is quite important, and is why HCGenerate is always out of stock. Only the best raws are sourced.
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And that is not just with our Fadogia ether. I don't talk about it much but for one I do not get any ingredients at all from China or India and I source every ingredient in Hcgenerate my self. The Fadogia from Africa the Trib from Bulgaria so on and so forth.. Not to mention the exact formula its self was not just a fucking guess ether.


Everyone I know has tried a " alternative" and guess what?? Im not worried in the least bit about weather they will be back to get hcgenerate again or not.. Because I know they will.


What I am more worried about is Luda you have now started a pattern of this kind of shit and its getting on my fucking nerves..
 
You hooked this wanker up with free products and helped him out got him wiked results and he still tried trashing ur products on here!? Hahahaha what a peice of shit man glad you blocked this loser needto, these unapreciative fools dont deserve to be part of the ef family.
 
bro, anytime you run pro hormones/steroids there is no guarentee you will recover and feel awesome. You are always doing something knowing there is a chance for sides even with the support supps. I can't imagine what your sides would have been if you ran nothing along side it.

plus you ran beast which is a strong ass steroid, come on bro. i may not agree with everything, but it's is not needto's fault you had sides with a steroid.

needto, i'd be happy to recieve 20 mil k for explaining steroids to this chump
 
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Im a mod on this site and my name is highlighted in blue. I don't lie about shit either. I promote these products because they work. Everyone is different. If you got shut down like that with all those support supps something is wrong. I run much harsher cycles and use that pct and recover perfectly. And as far as Nate being a good man. What other supp company owner has ever personally helped when a customer had a problem as a result of running their product? No fucking body. So before you attack an entire site and the good people here, why don't you learn wtf you are doing and get your own shit together.

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Luda, let me tell u something bro. U see my name here? Phenom16 and case16 are the two names I use on 6 or 7 different forums. I am no mod. I've never been paid or lie about any results I have had using any products. I use all kinds of different supplements. Some, like taurine or eca stack and whey protein isolate, even creatine i get from a local health food store. I use to get everything locally..over time, as I tried a product or to from ntbm and mr. Supps, I was really impressed with the results. Now I get everything else from these two places.. U know why? simply because they work..I'm not blindly loyal to needto because he paid me or we were personal friends. He EARNED my respect, my loyalty, and my hard earned money because his shit works, his customer service and his time and patience anytime I had a question or problem he fixed or answered it with no problem and no b.s...oh and eat a fuckin dick, bitch!
 
Successful people are always gonna have haters..I guess thats when u know you've made it..Luda u just throw shit out there like" I have pms needto sent me" where there's absolutely mo way to validate that..u are a little effin puke man..I can only go on my own personal dealings with needto and he has been as top notch as top notch can get..oh yeah and 99.999% of people I know or heard about that have dealt with him say the same thing.. Oh yeah and I put on 15 lbs with beastdrol.. Currently im using hcgenerate my dick works great..I just banged my wife 3 times and I can bench 485..so guy fuck yourself
 
IncredibleHoss said:
What the hell did hoss walk into
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An innocent debate LMFAO!

All aside, good luck bro, yes God sees all, but again you have a mind of your own so again nobody held your arm behind your back and forced supplements down your throat, you chose to ingest them bro, just like I choose to ingest them...and in my earlier years I ingested AAS with suggestions from so called gym buddies thinking I was in good hands...wrong! The fact is that "it was my choice!" Nobody came up behind me with a syringe and stuck me in the ass...I did it myself...with out someone schooling me about PCT first! I learned about that here on this forum, as well as about Epi Strong, Helladrol, Beast, Dieselbolan, and Katana...and what to stack with what by reading several reviews of members actually running them...not just by posting a thread and following that only...get all the feedback and info from multiple sources prior to diving into what are pretty serious substances, that can cause adverse side affects if you don't know what you are doing...I see you still are not taking any responsibility for your own actions and still pointing the finger at everyone here. Anyway bro, life is too short, chock this up as a learning experience and move on. You said you are recovered, all is good, you had a bad experience with this forum and some folks here, so just move on and call it a day. Personally I have found a ton of solid information from this site, including proper PCT and cycle support not only from needto threads, but others as well who debate with needto...I take all that information and proceed with caution...and guess what? My balls haven't been happier in years! I do have gyno to get rid of, that was the result of me not having enough education before I dabbled into AAS, but that is my fault...I will take full responsibility for that...but my wife isn't leaving me because of it, she is not that type of woman, she loves me no matter what...and will stand by me in good and bad times, sickness and in health no matter what...if your girl left you because of having a hard time in the bedroom part and didn't help you through it...well then maybe she wasn't the girl for you sorry to say.

Anyway, good luck as I'm sure you will be banned by the end of today if you don't post or come up with the PMs and threads you have been asked to post to defend your accusations.

Peace!
 
phenom16 said:
Love the fact that now u "don't have the pms anymore"..convenient..cuz your pm box is just overflowing right?..bro if u can't get results with beastdrol then that just shows how little u know about training and food..it's jacked up superdrol..proven oral aas..look it up anywhere not just here..strongest oral out there and u can't get results? U have no business taking anything..u suck
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Seriously bro? I never once bashed beastdrol. If anything I'll admit it is good shit. I broke some bench records on beastdrol. Its strong shit. If anythjng too damn stronf for most. And i would never reccmend stacking it like i did. Look i did one cucle of beast alone and when it came around for my 2nd cycle, i was told by ppl here and needto that its ok to stack it woth diesel as long as i do the so called famous pct "hcgenerate, sustain, unleashed, and i evem threw post cycle in there" I give props where it's due. But when it doesn't work, I'll admit it.


So idk why you're even acting like beastdrol was ever not good enough. Seriously bro. Read befre you talk.


As for the pms. Everyone knows you only get 50 messages. I've been around here since the beginning. It's been like 2 years. You don't think I can send and receive 50 messages?
 
muscleaddiction said:
An innocent debate LMFAO!

All aside, good luck bro, yes God sees all, but again you have a mind of your own so again nobody held your arm behind your back and forced supplements down your throat, you chose to ingest them bro, just like I choose to ingest them...and in my earlier years I ingested AAS with suggestions from so called gym buddies thinking I was in good hands...wrong! The fact is that "it was my choice!" Nobody came up behind me with a syringe and stuck me in the ass...I did it myself...with out someone schooling me about PCT first! I learned about that here on this forum, as well as about Epi Strong, Helladrol, Beast, Dieselbolan, and Katana...and what to stack with what by reading several reviews of members actually running them...not just by posting a thread and following that only...get all the feedback and info from multiple sources prior to diving into what are pretty serious substances, that can cause adverse side affects if you don't know what you are doing...I see you still are not taking any responsibility for your own actions and still pointing the finger at everyone here. Anyway bro, life is too short, chock this up as a learning experience and move on. You said you are recovered, all is good, you had a bad experience with this forum and some folks here, so just move on and call it a day. Personally I have found a ton of solid information from this site, including proper PCT and cycle support not only from needto threads, but others as well who debate with needto...I take all that information and proceed with caution...and guess what? My balls haven't been happier in years! I do have gyno to get rid of, that was the result of me not having enough education before I dabbled into AAS, but that is my fault...I will take full responsibility for that...but my wife isn't leaving me because of it, she is not that type of woman, she loves me no matter what...and will stand by me in good and bad times, sickness and in health no matter what...if your girl left you because of having a hard time in the bedroom part and didn't help you through it...well then maybe she wasn't the girl for you sorry to say.

Anyway, good luck as I'm sure you will be banned by the end of today if you don't post or come up with the PMs and threads you have been asked to post to defend your accusations.

Peace!
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You're right bro and I appreciate yor words. Yes I wasn't forced to follow the cycle but I did because I trusted. Ultimately it's my choice. Was I bitter and made some
Hate threads? No.


You scroll to page one and look at who attacked who.


Obviously if anyone dares say anythjng is better than hcgenerate they are getting banned.


If you search hcgenerate and you look at the threads, you'll notice that I replied to 5-10 threads in the same day back to back pretending to say it's the best shit ever. Hmm do you remember pming me with the links to these threads needto?
 
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stevesmi said:
i never name called.. i merely said I believed you were bi-polar.. and yes i know what it is cause i have a psychology background plus I dated a girl who was bi-polar. its actually sad seeing people like that but if you call them out for it its the best thing for that person. and its nothing to be ashamed of, there are a lot of very intelligent and successful people who are bi-polar, but you do need help for it or it will eat away at you and you could end up in prison or dead if not treated

also no I am not 50. i'm in my very early 30's. so you are about 20 years off with your guess.
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Seriously bro? That's who you are? You're gonna kick someone when they're already down? Are you married? Have kids? Do you know what it's like to lose someone? Have some respect bro. You hear that I lost my long time gf because I couldn't explain why I couldn't get it up with her for 6 months. Do you know how girls take that?


Don't come in here and call me psyho and bipolar and that I deserved to get left bro. You don't know me. Don't sit there and diagnose me with mental disorders. Because if you knew anythjng about psychology, you would know that it takes many tests, evaluations, and checklists before you can diagnose anyone with a mental illness. So for you to sit here and tell me that you have a psychology Background and say that I'm a psychopath proves to me you have no idea why you're talking about
 
so its our fault your gf broke up with you?

when will you get some personal responsibility and blame yourself. should of never touched AAS if you had libido issues to begin with. i've posted this probably 100 times on the board.

i'm not kicking anybody while they are down, i am trying to help you
 
Only problem I really have bro is that you came in here and you did attack this site. You attacked the mods, of which I am one, and the platinum members and said we where all full of shit ams scammers. That I take personally. I help people everyday on this site and give FREE advice on cycles, training, diet, and more. So how am I gaining of being a scammer? Im not. The other mods and members or this site are like family to me. If you have a problem with Nate then you should have talked this over with him directly. If you would have I know him well enough to know he would have bent over backwards to help as he has for 1000's of people daily. I think you misunderstood his offer of free products. That was most likely because he wanted to make it up to you for your review ad experience. Not to buy your silence. Anyway without posting screen shots of the pm's I don't see you being here much longer. A good debate is healthy. Attacking the integrity of the site and its members will not be tolerated.

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anytime you mess with hormones you run the risk of effecting your libido. so if libido is great and its important to you then stay away from hormones. its that simple.

just google steroids messed up my libido and you will get thousands of hits, this is simple research.

now you said you had great strength gains on beastdrol so it did its job for you, your gf should of been happy you were stronger .. girls dig strong guys.
 
Beast and Helladrol haven't given me libido problems. I've ran Helladrol once and Beastdrol 2 times. Everyone will react different to some degree when taking these things. You may have another underlying problem causing your lack of libido if this is going on for 6 months after a short cycle like these are meant to be ran. It takes a proper PCT. I, and not to get too personal, am blowing loads RIGHT NOW 3 weeks after PCT bigger than my entire life. No, no, I realize you didn't ask, but I'm just saying, eat right, sleep right, live right, and take a great PCT. It takes everything.

I don't get paid to say what I do, hell, half the time I tread lightly because this is the AAS forums and these mother fuckers get moody randomly throughout the year. I'm just a real person who found this site, found good cycle plans and layouts for PH's, studied my ass off, and found out this shit is legit.
 
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