best summer cycle, #1 or #2????

[lifthard2005]

im trying to figure out which is going to give me the best gains in terms of hardness, dry, and some lean mass gains. Cycle 1 or 2 bro?

Cycle 1 (8 weeks)
prop @ 75mg ed
npp @ 75mg ed
win (inject) @ 50mg ed
var @ 50mg ed

Cycle 2 (8 weeks)
prop @ 75mg ed
tren a @ 75mg ed
win (inject) @ 50mg ed
var @ 50mg ed

i keep reading how npp/winny are awesome for lean gains, but so is tren/win. im leaning towards the 1st cycle, and extending it for 10-12 weeks (the whole summer)

im 35, 6'3", 230lbs, and 10% bf. Been cycling for 4 yrs. (Me in avatar)

also, if I used primo at 400mg/wk for 8 weeks, will I see anything from it? I know longer is better, but money is tight.

 

[digimon7068]

personally. . .i think the whole "cutting drugs" thing is kind of exaggerated when talking about aas. . .i'm a 42 yo desk jockey and the pic in my ava is at the end of week 4 (last friday) of omna (500 ew), deca (300 ew), plus i used dbol at 20mg ed weeks 1-3. . .i'm down 20 or so pounds from my december body weight of 240+. . .i'm getting nice and lean using "bulking drugs". . .cardio and diet are infinitely more important than your choice of supplements imho. . .

 

[lifthard2005]

bump.......

 

[drdug27]

i vote #2

 

[off_safety]

i vote #2

i agree, youre going to be ridiculous after this one.

 

[jmead]

always heard to run the prop a little higher than tren, same as with deca/npp, keeps your libido where it needs to be

 

[lifthard2005]

AND HERE IT IS, AND HAS BEEN PURCHASED!!!


wk 1-5 TBOL @ 60mg ed
wk 1-10 Test E @ 250mg /wk
wk 1-10 Tren E @ 250mg /wk
wk 1-10 EQ @ 600mg /wk
wk 1-10 var @ 100mg ed
wk 1-10 proviron @ 50mg ed

 

[resqguy]

EQ for 10 weeks...isn't that too short? Just askin'...

 

[Mac173]

EQ for 10 weeks...isn't that too short? Just askin'...

He's already been running it for 20wks or something like that.

 

[jmead]

roger that,

why exactly have you been running eq for so long? without a break?

 

[lifthard2005]

roger that,

why exactly have you been running eq for so long? without a break?

well, #1 is takes so long to kick in, #2 gains are constant and slow, but quality, #3 helps keep an anabolic enviroment stable, and #4 I love the vascularity it gives me non-stop. I have barely lost any gains since i started doing this. And I dont crash when I come off it.

 

[st8grad]

well, #1 is takes so long to kick in, #2 gains are constant and slow, but quality, #3 helps keep an anabolic enviroment stable, and #4 I love the vascularity it gives me non-stop. I have barely lost any gains since i started doing this. And I dont crash when I come off it.

Fuck 26 weeks. Just run it all year.

 

[needtogetaas]

AND HERE IT IS, AND HAS BEEN PURCHASED!!!


wk 1-5 TBOL @ 60mg ed
wk 1-10 Test E @ 250mg /wk
wk 1-10 Tren E @ 250mg /wk
wk 1-10 EQ @ 600mg /wk
wk 1-10 var @ 100mg ed
wk 1-10 proviron @ 50mg ed

nice....injoy that shit bro.

 

[lifthard2005]

nice....injoy that shit bro.

I cant wait. my friend is starting a cycle with me. his is

wk 1-10 eq @ 800mg
wk 1-10 test cyp @ 250mg
wk 1-8 var @ 100mg ed
wk 8-12 win @ 50mg ed
wk 1-10 clomid @ 50mg e3d


he has some anger issues, so he is trying to stay away from heavier androgens. but he should do great with that.