Best steroid for keeping mass????

[LVTitan]

a-bombs...jk. i would say primo, tren, deca, eq.

yup yup..
primo tren deca eq

remember guys one of the reasons tren is so good at keeping gains is that a tren cycle disables the cortisol receptors, some of them for good, but this effect can last up to a year. so after the cycle, your anabolic/catabolic ratio is way in your favor with cortisol not being allowed to do it's job. i wonder if deca has this effect, does anyone know ?

 

[Demonix]

I lost a lot of strength when I came off tren. But I didn't go into PCT right away, I went into a cutter of prop and winny. Which I really am enjoying winny a lot right now except for joint pain.

 

[swolenole]

hmm i was thinking of doing a cycle of:

10-12 weeks primo at 500mg a week
winny 60mg a day for 5 weeks

would you do somthing eles instead of winny? im sensitive to estrogen and dont like the puffy look. i would also like to keep most of my gains!

If you want to run a test free no bloat cycle run
10-12 Primo 500-700 mg EW
40-60 mg Var ED
proviron 25-50mg ED You will need the proviron to keep your wanger up to par without test-plus it will keep you looking hard.

 

[LT3]

yup yup..
primo tren deca eq

remember guys one of the reasons tren is so good at keeping gains is that a tren cycle disables the cortisol receptors, some of them for good, but this effect can last up to a year. so after the cycle, your anabolic/catabolic ratio is way in your favor with cortisol not being allowed to do it's job. i wonder if deca has this effect, does anyone know ?

I would assume it does, maybe not to the same extent but it should.

 

[Ozz2001]

If you run a good PCT shouldnt matter what you use.Most gain losses are from people that run a poor PCT

 

[axe3]

im 5"11 205lbs about 15% bf and i have been lifting for 4 year. 3 of those year i have been lifting to gain mass. this would be my first cycle and i am hoping to gain atleast 15 pounds and keep most of it! which is why i want to get on primo or eq. both are one of few steroids to let a person keep ther gians. i want to stack it with somthing though i thought winny would be good?

so if you could help me? what dose should i take? which one should i take eq or primo? and what should i stack it with? remember this is my first cycle.

If you can afford it and know that it is real primo running 600mg/wk would be an excellent cycle. I honestly think you would be happier runing a simple test cycle and maybe jumpstarting it with a little d-bol. You can gain some quality mass; and based on yer size you know how to eat and train - I would think if you had your shit together there is no reason why you couldnt keep 15# post cycle

 

[Mr.X]

What is the best steroid for keeping mass affter you are long done you cycle? I would hate to spend money on somthing and then loose all my gains.

With proper PCT, you will not lose gains. Ideally, primo, anavar and moderate test dosages are your best way to go, if you're worried.

Just have a proper PCT set-up, and losing gains will not be a problem.

 

[guitrole1]

im 5"11 205lbs about 15% bf and i have been lifting for 4 year. 3 of those year i have been lifting to gain mass. this would be my first cycle and i am hoping to gain atleast 15 pounds and keep most of it! which is why i want to get on primo or eq. both are one of few steroids to let a person keep ther gians. i want to stack it with somthing though i thought winny would be good?

Bro, how old are you?

 

[boxerjake]

Guy's pardon my interuption but some of these claims are down right " wrong " ..

Proper PCT or not .. your body can only adjust to holding onto so much gains at once ...

My teeth hurt when i read .. i'm going to do a 2 month cycle and i want to keep it all , then someone else says .. well sure you can, just do proper PCT and your good to go .

Ok then how about genetic limitations , without it according to this logic we could be 500 pounds of muscle in 15 years worth of cycles with the proper PCT ?

Hmmmmm I'm 205 so i'll do this cycle and gain 15 pound which i'll keep cuz the guys say if i do proper PCT i'm good to go .. so now i'm 220 so next i'll do another cycle only stronger doses for another 15 pounds ... now i'm 235lbs ! the guys say with proper PCT i'll keep that .. Hmmmm not bad for 2 cycles this year .. So next year i'll do my third cycle for another 15lbs which will bring me to 250lbs then i'll wait 6 months and do another one to finish off the year at 265 then 280 then 295 then 310 then ..................


I'm not being an ass guys and i know this example is stupid " but " if anything it should bring you back to reality and realize that " KEEPING " the gains post cycle is the tough part and the biggest reason guys get hooked on going onto the next cycle because they loose part or all of what they gained because of poor diet or lack of knowledge on how this machine called our bodies really functions ..


I don't know how old this guy is but lets just say he is 24 .. well you have had 24 years to get to the weight and muscle structure you have now ... changing that by 15 pounds in a few short months is a huge change for your body and it will revert back to where it thinks it's suppose to be if you don't change your diet for one ...


I realize this is a first time cycle and beginners most often see the most results on the first cyle .. I'd steer clear of test at this time and go with compounds less harsh till you get a feel for it .. hell good quaility gains can be made on 1 tab of d-bol a day little own and elaborate stack of compounds ..

My votes goes to a short run of deca and winny together ... or primo and var
If you cant get var then try primo and d-bol , this was one of arnolds favorite stacks back in the day .

The biggest downfall of stacks the first time out is if you have an adverse reaction then your clueless to which compoud is causing the problem ...

Air on the side of caution and ease yourself in ... or you might find out your just another one of those guys that keeps riding the rollercoast of gains .. up and down up and down up and down .

Or say fuck it and jump in with both feet .. if your man enough to take on the roids then you should be man enough to deal with any of the negatives ..

Two schools of thought .. pick one

 

[jacshelb]

Just want to throw in a caution. While liver, kidney, and several other sides are not going to necessarilly kill you right off. It seems the vast majority, even those who are careful sometimes, have some trouble with gyno and hairloss. I would take precautions. Definately have some Nolva on hand. It is cheap. Also, while propecia may interfere with some steroids in a negative way, topical hair treatments are not a bad idea for any cycle. I suggest using polysorbate 80 shampoo and minoxidil in their generic forms. Costs just $5-10 dollars a month. Also could use topical spironolactone, which is reasonably priced. These are just basics you likely already know about. But, just in case, thought I'd give a heads up.

Later,

Jacob