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"Gains" is a very misleading and misunderstood word in the anabolic world.

ALL steroids build muscle, but SOME of them cause BLOAT which people misconstrue as "gains".

For example, you may gain 25lbs from dbol and lose 20lbs after. This doesn't mean you lost your "gains". You simply lost the water weight it caused. The 5lbs of muscle that you built is still there.

If you can't handle or simply don't like the mental impact losing water weight entails, then take the ones that don't bloat, such as tren, primo, var, halotestin, t-bol, winstrol, and eq.

Steroids that bloat and give the impression of false "gains":
test
dbol
deca
npp
anadrol

There is nothing wrong with these steroids. One must just realize that you are going to lose a ton of water weight when you come off and it is not to be perceived as a loss of gains.
 
Nelson Montana said:
The idea of drinking milk with fish... :sick:
lol I must agree here, but tuna is great source of protien just not when its washed down with milk. I like to add mine to a bowl of pasta (doing this now)
 
perryscoon said:
"Gains" is a very misleading and misunderstood word in the anabolic world.

ALL steroids build muscle, but SOME of them cause BLOAT which people misconstrue as "gains".

For example, you may gain 25lbs from dbol and lose 20lbs after. This doesn't mean you lost your "gains". You simply lost the water weight it caused. The 5lbs of muscle that you built is still there.

If you can't handle or simply don't like the mental impact losing water weight entails, then take the ones that don't bloat, such as tren, primo, var, halotestin, t-bol, winstrol, and eq.

Steroids that bloat and give the impression of false "gains":
test
dbol
deca
npp
anadrol

There is nothing wrong with these steroids. One must just realize that you are going to lose a ton of water weight when you come off and it is not to be perceived as a loss of gains.

Good point man
:artist:
 
Icon1985 said:
FOOD: I eat normal sized portions. I don't count exact calories, but estimate I get about 170-200g protein a day. I take extra fish oil supps.

Bro start counting them. All thru high school I never seemed to be able to gain weight, but I was eating a lot of food. My problem was that i was so active that I was not eating enough to support the ability to be able to gain any weight. More or less I was burning more calories that i was consuming or just hitting it dead even.

It was not until I started rigorously counting my calories and seeing what i was eating everyday and how many calories I had consumed that I realized how little I was actually getting everyday. Once I began putting everything into a excel spreadsheet (which included cals, fat grams, carb grams, and protein grams) was I able to start meeting my goals. I had to start consuming 4-5k calories a day before I really started noticing that week after week I was starting to put on weight. Give it a shot. If you dont notice yourself making gains then up the calories 500 a day. I cannot stress this enough to people that ask me what they should do to gain weight....EAT MORE FOOD. Then when they say, "I eat all the time," I ask them, "Well how many calories are you eating a day?" Almost everytime without fail they say, UH I DONT KNOW!

I know there are some sites out there that have calorie counters that you can use. Hell if you want PM me and i'll send you a copy of my spreadsheet in excel that I use. Very easy to use.
 
In the south (US) when you do this with Salmon instaed of tuna you are making what is called Salmon Croquets - It's an ol southern dish. Tuna, with a little sweet pickle relish, mayo, and two - three boiled eggs - mixed into a bowl and spread on wheat bread or toast is a Tasty meal...and damn good even with milk. (differnt tastes for diff folks. I guess Hahah...I love the stuff -2 to 3 times any day!
Tatyana said:
I am with Nelson on that one, that is YUCK.

Even more minging, I know one bodybuilder who would blend tuna with diet coke and drink it.

I hated tuna until I got this recipe. Dead easy and you can modify it with all sorts of herbs or spices.

I got it from 'the short one' the fantastic Sallyanne, bless her bulging biceps :)

Drain 3-4 (or more) tins or foil packets of tuna

Rinse and drain again

Break into small bits

Add in 3-5 egg whites or whole eggs (depends on if you are stripping fat or building up), basically enough eggs or egg whites so the tuna sticks together.

Chop 3-5 spring onions

Salt and pepper to taste

Optional: 2-3 tablespoons of cooked oatmeal or rice

Mix and make into patties

I cook them with the one calorie spray in an non-stick frying pan.

I can even eat these cold.

Lately I have been not using green onions but using this Moroccan spice rub mix instead, YUM.
 
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