best routine for mass besides madcow' 5x5?

[AlwaysOn]

see subject

 

[blut wump]

I've never tried it myself but I've seen HST or Hypertrophy Specific Training often recommended
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_index.html

 

[view]

beet me too it. I was gonna say HST. read and read about it first though, because as you will soon find, it actually allows for a lot more variation than madcows routine, though on the surface it may not appear so.

 

[majutsu]

HST, German volume training, Dual-Factor Hypertrophy training, HIT, weiderism/old school, Reg Park/Steve Reeves training, Hardgainer (Stuart McRoberts) training . . .

That's what comes to mind initially. A google search on any one of these methods would get you started. From the above list, I would recommend the dual factor (5x5, DFHT, or GVT) methods or HST.

 

[AlwaysOn]

GVT is dual factor you say?

or is that a typo?

 

[cmdubs]

HST. Up 4 pounds in 3 weeks so far. Gotta eat though.

 

[HaZaRDouZ]

i have found the dorian yates method of training to be the most effective for myself, it is alot like HST, with 1-2working sets per exercise to failure.

 

[majutsu]

always on -- I consider GVT to be dual factor, although I see why you wonder. But to me, if you squat 20 sets every day, you are not thinking single-factor (recovery) anymore.

 

[cmdubs]

i have found the dorian yates method of training to be the most effective for myself, it is alot like HST, with 1-2working sets per exercise to failure.

what's the frequency like on this program?

 

[JIMguy]

always on -- I consider GVT to be dual factor, although I see why you wonder. But to me, if you squat 20 sets every day, you are not thinking single-factor (recovery) anymore.

Exactly... good point.

 

[Lestat]

I've been using HST for a couple years now and seen noticable gains.

 

[AlwaysOn]

with aas or without, lestat?

 

[AlwaysOn]

i have found the dorian yates method of training to be the most effective for myself, it is alot like HST, with 1-2working sets per exercise to failure.

I do dorian yates style right now, but it is definitely not the most effective way I've trained.

I have limited experience though, so please take it with a grain of salt.