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Before i started using this site i have never heard of hcgenerate but it seems like alot of u use it. The place i get my gear from only has clomid or nolvadex. What is ur opinionson the best pct
Best pct?
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you already started your cycle and you are just now trying to figure out a PCT?
you should already be on hcgenerate or hcg on cycle. you should already be taking cabaser since you said you were on tren in your other thread.
what are your stats? age? you sound very young which is why i am asking.. be honest
you should already be on hcgenerate or hcg on cycle. you should already be taking cabaser since you said you were on tren in your other thread.
what are your stats? age? you sound very young which is why i am asking.. be honest
KillaMilla
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Every thread i post it always seems to get misconstrude some way or another. Yes, i am on cycle right now n take clomid for pct. but that wasnt even the point of this thread. I was jus sayin that ive never heard of hcgenerate till i got on this site n jus wanted to kno what everyone fav pct was whether it be clomid,nolva or hcgenerate. But since u asked my stats r im 26 200lbs 5'10" n the last time i checked my bf i was at 15% but that was almost 2 years ago
sorry that people keep misconstruing what you are saying, but we always encourage people to research on their own, then if they still have questions to ask them.. and we will do our best to answer BEFORE messing with AAS. not asking questions during a cycle and playing things by ear.
having said that PCT is a personal thing. but I have a link in my sig which will give you an idea of the path you should take.
but you should definately already be running ancillaries while on. just running clomid for PCT and calling it a day is not gonna cut it. you have to cover all bases, especially with running something like tren, its a major waste of gear to just run it and not have your ancillaries on hand. its a fast way to end up on TRT at a very young age.
just a clomid PCT is gonna make you feel like crap post cycle. you have to run natty supps with it like unleashed, post cycle that will offset the negative sides from clomid. the type of pct i run is very light amount of drugs like clomid, hmg, hcg. and combined with natty supps like hcgenerate, unleashed, post cycle, forma. read the link in my sig for a full writeup
having said that PCT is a personal thing. but I have a link in my sig which will give you an idea of the path you should take.
but you should definately already be running ancillaries while on. just running clomid for PCT and calling it a day is not gonna cut it. you have to cover all bases, especially with running something like tren, its a major waste of gear to just run it and not have your ancillaries on hand. its a fast way to end up on TRT at a very young age.
just a clomid PCT is gonna make you feel like crap post cycle. you have to run natty supps with it like unleashed, post cycle that will offset the negative sides from clomid. the type of pct i run is very light amount of drugs like clomid, hmg, hcg. and combined with natty supps like hcgenerate, unleashed, post cycle, forma. read the link in my sig for a full writeup
I like to run Hc Generate while on and through PCT. After i like Unleashed and Post Cycle combo. Sometimes depending on cycle I will low dose clomid.
I've been experimenting with alot of things I like hcgenerate/psytoserms though I didn't get the same libido boost as when I did the first time around
My old fave was novadex-xt nothing brought the morning wood back and made my balls plump like it did it got discontinued so I'm trying their viridex-xt right now can't report back on that since I just began taking it
I am inlove with cialis right now for that very cause and our sponsors at chemicalneed.com have some legit stuff I'm walking around with a semi all day
My old fave was novadex-xt nothing brought the morning wood back and made my balls plump like it did it got discontinued so I'm trying their viridex-xt right now can't report back on that since I just began taking it
I am inlove with cialis right now for that very cause and our sponsors at chemicalneed.com have some legit stuff I'm walking around with a semi all day
JuiceIsMyFriend
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Not trying to sound like a know it all douche killa but I think theres a couple people here that get paid to push product. My gear supply is same as urs. Clomid, nolva, hcg, and arimidex. All this other stuff the same guys always say is a MUST I just don't know about. Like forma stanzol. WTF is that? Or the hcgenerate. Why would my gear supply that carries everything not have this stuff? And another thing is they always say run hcg during cycle? I've talked to numerous people who have been on gear for years that say hcg is for pct ONLY and will mess u up.
I'll run nolva during cycle and through pct. And pct consisting of hcg inject and a post cycle kit from gnc or vitamin shoppe. I'm sure I'll get alot of shit from this but oh well no point I'm blowing money on stuff u don't need or stuff most perfectly healthy gear heads have never heard of.
JuiceIsMyFriend
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Just googled hcgenerate. It's a test booster. Obvious for running pct with. Ima stick with t bomb myself. Idk why the hell you would run a test boost with a cycle. Makes no sense.
you will get shit when you post fiction as fact on here and then call out everyone who doesn't agree with your mis-information just product pushers.
it naturally boosts your body's natural testosterone so its a great thing to run during cycle to offset nut shrinkage.
don't believe me? why don't you try it out yourself your next cycle and see for yourself.. it will keep your nuts plump. again you post fiction as fact. you really don't know what you are talking about and I'm not trying to be a dick to you, I'm just saying don't come on here and post mis-info and assume you know what you are talking about.
KillaMilla
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C.k and juiceismy friend. Thanks for ur replys. No disrespect at all to any of u other guys. But finally i got replys that ur not tryin to make me sound like an idiot. Usually i dnt run any pct(which is an idiot thing to do i kno) but all my friends that take gear use high doses of deca, n tren mix n whatever n have been usin for years. Shit some dont even take an off cycle. One friend has been on deca for a year straight(huge f'in dude) n none of these guys use any type of pct n have never had any health problems "thus far" but im not like that so i started clomid n jus wanted to kno what everyone else liked n ive never heard of that hcgenerate n jus wanted to find out a lil bout it
JuiceIsMyFriend
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Why wouldn't someone just run n2guard as cycle support. I don't see a point in waisting money for a test booster also. Is it really that good?
so if your friends jumped off the mtv building would you do it?
the friend that has been on deca for a year is gonna have a rough recovery, that i will guarantee you. he will probably go on permanent TRT. so yeah he runs no PCT cause he just stays on year round! that isn't cycling.. cycling is going on, going off. etc etc.
you can get away with no pct, but you are gonna lose your gains and have a rough recovery.. that isn't the proper way to cycle and build muscle over time. its a very short sighted idea.
Hit_the_weightS
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I would love to know the condition those guys liver is in running aas constantly without support or breaks for recovery. Wouldn't be surprised if one of them dropped dead one day out of the blue because their internal organs are shot to f#@•
Some people have no respect for their own body.
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Pain is weakness leaving the Body
Some people have no respect for their own body.
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Pain is weakness leaving the Body
KillaMilla
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If u guys even understood half of the illegal stuff this dude takes along with all the juice u would prolly all poop urselfs on how he isnt dead yet. N hes one of those guys that u cant tell shit to so no one even tries anymore
Listen to SteveMI I did a cycle without and did a cycle with and noticed the difference.. The guy is giving you sound advice..by the way I'm sat here in the UK don't have any connections with suppliers or "reps"? For my cycle next year I have
forma on order (ready for deca sides) during & post cycle..
hcgenerate (keep my natural test ticking over) during & post cycle...
Post cycle / unleashed x2 (as the name suggests post cycle)
Hcg (own supplier ) during & post cycle
Clomid (own supplier ) Post cycle
Liqidex (caution during cycle deca sides)
Prami (caution during cycle deca sides)
I have all this due prior to christmas customs permitting ?? & would not consider a cycle without this up front.
I REITERATE READS STEVEMI's link in his profile
Ranger11B
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Why wouldn't someone just run n2guard as cycle support. I don't see a point in waisting money for a test booster also. Is it really that good?
The point is to keep your natural system pumping ie the testasatchel to prevent shut down off cycle. Theres alot of obvious benefits along side that, but the main point is just to keep it all working when off. It also is a great way to pillow off the cycle into pct , cuts down on the some of the emotional and physical sides of coming off. Trust me HCgen on cycle through pct is not a waste of money , its an investment in your nuts and ability to recieve blow jobs , in my opinion a well worth it investment that keeps on giving ....
ROFLMAO!!!!!! This is so true. Dayum Ranger I spit my water out on this post!
Have a buddy that works out at my gym who did a 12 week test and winny cycle and gained a bunch of muscle and he was a little guy to begin with! Seen him at the bar this past weekend and lost everythying!!!!! I asked him wtf happened bro? His exact words " I was a dumbass and I never did a PCT!
Gearjunkie
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I have used tren, a 50, deca , test almost everything
I've tried hcg generator. But I rather stick to mine old classic pct
Only thing I used is hcg and clomids. Same with all my mates.
I think keeping your size after your cycle depends on various other factors
Diet, training etc
Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS
I've tried hcg generator. But I rather stick to mine old classic pct
Only thing I used is hcg and clomids. Same with all my mates.
I think keeping your size after your cycle depends on various other factors
Diet, training etc
Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS
not just that but seeing him at the bar should of been a good clue.
a lot of guys quit after cycle, they lose the fire. they get mentally dependent on juice and when they cycle off they quit. I see it all the time, some guys have the fire and some don't.
gatemoney
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This is what I'm going to do for cycle number 3.
Sust 1-10 400ew
Beast 1-4 3caps ed
Arimidex .25 ed from 1st pin to end pct
Hcg 3-13 250iu mon,thurs ew
Clomid 13-15 12.5ed
Post cycle / unleash 13-...
Bridge.
Will be holding nolvadex as well, Just in case.
I have done 2 previous cycles with traditional pct of nolv while on and clomid after at high dose.
My experience with pct was so bad that I swore off of steroids!
My mood and motivation ( not to mention libido) took such a bad hit I started missing meals and workouts.
Consequently I lost my gains!
I have been reading on here for well over a year, researching and researching and researching!
I want a p c t that will help me keep my gains, not do it for me but help me, along with diet and training of course.
Traditional pct seemed to do everything it could to crush my gains.
So the above is what I have come up with.
My motivation is,
To feel good throughout,
Solidify gains,
Not feel like a whiny little bitch that is 2 steps from putting a shotgun in his mouth!
Not to lose libido! This is more important now than on my last 2 cycles because i was single then but i have a live in old lady now.
That is why I am trying this "new pct".
I am in no way, shape or form affiliated with or interested in promoting nate's products.
I am only interested in what is best for me!
I will be starting this in about a month I will be happy to keep a log and report back.
If anyone experienced with "new pct"
Would like to make an adjustment to my cycle, please feel free.
Sust 1-10 400ew
Beast 1-4 3caps ed
Arimidex .25 ed from 1st pin to end pct
Hcg 3-13 250iu mon,thurs ew
Clomid 13-15 12.5ed
Post cycle / unleash 13-...
Bridge.
Will be holding nolvadex as well, Just in case.
I have done 2 previous cycles with traditional pct of nolv while on and clomid after at high dose.
My experience with pct was so bad that I swore off of steroids!
My mood and motivation ( not to mention libido) took such a bad hit I started missing meals and workouts.
Consequently I lost my gains!
I have been reading on here for well over a year, researching and researching and researching!
I want a p c t that will help me keep my gains, not do it for me but help me, along with diet and training of course.
Traditional pct seemed to do everything it could to crush my gains.
So the above is what I have come up with.
My motivation is,
To feel good throughout,
Solidify gains,
Not feel like a whiny little bitch that is 2 steps from putting a shotgun in his mouth!
Not to lose libido! This is more important now than on my last 2 cycles because i was single then but i have a live in old lady now.
That is why I am trying this "new pct".
I am in no way, shape or form affiliated with or interested in promoting nate's products.
I am only interested in what is best for me!
I will be starting this in about a month I will be happy to keep a log and report back.
If anyone experienced with "new pct"
Would like to make an adjustment to my cycle, please feel free.
bulldog2039
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Agree with you bro. Why push more pills into your body! I can get inject hcg cheap as hell compared to hcgenerate and it works great! By the time you add all the forma shit and the post unleashed I'd have to take out a loan for my cycle! I've always ran quality nolvadex on pct and never had and problems! But if bro's get paid to promote a product I'd jam it down your throat to! That n2 guard looks like a great support I might run it but will it really save your liver and kidneys?
I'm really getting fed up with posters who post that people are pushing products cause they get paid to. unless you have evidence please bring it forward, otherwise I will be handing out bans to people who make these accusations.
if you disagree the fine, but taking a shot as someones integrity.. especially a vet or a mod of the site is not gonna be tolerated.
also hcgenerate and unleashed aren't 'pills' .. they are natural herbs that do not suppress your body.. they aren't drugs. It used to be you burn your finger cooking you go into your backyard and grab some aloe from your plant.. nowadays doctors want to hand out drugs for every little thing. they even are drugging up our pets now.
also i find it interesting you criticize me yet in another thread you put up http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/hcg-815713.html <<<click the link... you say there you don't even know how to use hcg or inject it and then you say that you are having bad sides on cycle... then on this thread you say you recover just fine on nolva. so which is it? ...
I am the nicest guy out there but when you make accusations I will strike back harder...
bulldog2039
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I'm really getting fed up with posters who post that people are pushing products cause they get paid to. unless you have evidence please bring it forward, otherwise I will be handing out bans to people who make these accusations.
if you disagree the fine, but taking a shot as someones integrity.. especially a vet or a mod of the site is not gonna be tolerated.
also hcgenerate and unleashed aren't 'pills' .. they are natural herbs that do not suppress your body.. they aren't drugs. It used to be you burn your finger cooking you go into your backyard and grab some aloe from your plant.. nowadays doctors want to hand out drugs for every little thing. they even are drugging up our pets now.
also i find it interesting you criticize me yet in another thread you put up http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/hcg-815713.html <<<click the link... you say there you don't even know how to use hcg or inject it and then you say that you are having bad sides on cycle... then on this thread you say you recover just fine on nolva. so which is it? ...
I am the nicest guy out there but when you make accusations I will strike back harder...
Bro not attacking your judgment at all! I'm sure you know your shit! Like the beastrol that everyone backs up that will probaly be banned sooner or later! Haven't been on a board yet where the members force natural herbs supps that other web sites sell are they really natural herbs? Never ran into natural herbs that actually do anything! Natural test boosters are shit like the junk at gnc! And yes I asked about the hcg dose if you read I said I've never ran it before so trying to get info what it's all about! I'm sure you stumble on cycle questions every now and than! And the real hcg works great! Everybody acts different to aas I decided to add tren that's when I started to have nut shrinkage. I'm just a test only guy I see alot of guys run 10 different compounds and think it's crazy. A little test and a good diet says it all so sorry for shitting in your cherrios!
Question... Is hcg better used in high doses at end of cycle before pct or in low dosage throughout cycle. Seems like prolonged usage would cause shutdown. Where as running it for 2 weeks at the end wouldnt.
Also, is it better with clomid as a part of the post cycle,? Or taken near end of cycle before pct? Id appreciate advice
Also, is it better with clomid as a part of the post cycle,? Or taken near end of cycle before pct? Id appreciate advice
Hey Evan, why don't you use your "evansonjuice" name? It wasn't banned, only put on a timeout.
Did you use that time to read our rules and know now that you can't source here?
I hope so. I don't want to find out that you've been offering sources through PM again or the ban will be permanent.
As for you having two accounts, please pick one and let me know which you want to keep the other will be banned. If I don't hear from you in a couple days I will just ban both.
I bet they never get blood tests done either. Wonder what their hematocrit levels are, or their lipids.
They could be steps away from an MI, but hey...why not do what they're doing?
You know, I wish I got paid by every company I've ever recommended a product or service from. That's how it should be! If I tell someone where to get a good product or a good price on something, that company should cut me a check!
Last week I told my neighbor that the grocery store down the street had Rib Eye roast for $4.77 a pound. He went and bought some. I should get PAID!!! Krogers...write me a check for that referral!
I'm starting to get angry now. I'm always telling people where to get good deals or good products. This is bullshit. All my life I've been giving away those referrals for free. Fuck that. From now on I am going to get paid or no more spreading the word about good deals.
Last week I told my neighbor that the grocery store down the street had Rib Eye roast for $4.77 a pound. He went and bought some. I should get PAID!!! Krogers...write me a check for that referral!
I'm starting to get angry now. I'm always telling people where to get good deals or good products. This is bullshit. All my life I've been giving away those referrals for free. Fuck that. From now on I am going to get paid or no more spreading the word about good deals.
Ripp42
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This guy is lost
Ripp42
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Ripp42
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Its going over my head or its this i phone app. I sees nada
it's the app.
It's the app copy and pasted for all
step 1 is set up a cycle that is good dosage and conservative. lets not run crazy dosages, and lets keep the cycle 10-12 weeks or less. with tren keep it at 6 weeks and continue with something less harsh for another 4-5 weeks while the tren is clearing. this works well <br />
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next you want to make sure if you run deca or tren you also run some dostinex/caber/prami while on.. half a mg e4d should work. and if you are running an oral pick up either forged liver support or N2Guard... lets be smart about our liver. <br />
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run hcg 250iu's 2X per week starting when you notice testicular suppression or roughly weeks 2-5... also run a bottle of hcgenerate starting week 2, and then another bottle starting week 8 <br />
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after your last inject bump the hcg to 1000-1500iu's every 4 days until the esters clear your body and then run 2-3 dosages of HMG along with the hcg a few days before ester clearance. look up the half lives of AAS so you are aware.. cyp is 14 days, sustanon is 21 days for example. <br />
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run extra vitamin C at this time to combat cortisol all the way through pct. <br />
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once the esters clear you should run a SERM... my favorite is clomid.. 12.5-25mg every day. run too high a dose and you will be dealing with the crappy sides clomid is known for. run the SERM for 4 weeks then drop the dosage for another 2 weeks. <br />
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also you need to run a bottle of unleashed and post cycle along with the SERM. I also recommend creatine, you can buy a bag from NTBM that will last you a while.. mix it in with your water while you workout along with your vit C. <br />
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try this strategy your next cycle, you will definately see a difference in your recovery. any questions or comments fire away
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