Best oral to stack with NPP?

[MattJS]

I've just got my hands on some heavily discounted NP, I won't be using it until february probably, I'm on a cut blast at the mo (250 test e, 75mg EOD tren a and low dose winstrol finisher) so my goal for this next short blast will be maximum lean mass gain...

I want to pack on as much mass as possible without losing the leanness that I'm working hard to acquire now....

I'm just trying to decide on an oral kickstart or finisher, been thinking along the lines of Dbol or Beastdrol... BTW this will probably be a six week cycle, I really appreciate any input any NPP users can give here...

 

[RickRock13]

I've just got my hands on some heavily discounted NP, I won't be using it until february probably, I'm on a cut blast at the mo (250 test e, 75mg EOD tren a and low dose winstrol finisher) so my goal for this next short blast will be maximum lean mass gain...

I want to pack on as much mass as possible without losing the leanness that I'm working hard to acquire now....

I'm just trying to decide on an oral kickstart or finisher, been thinking along the lines of Dbol or Beastdrol... BTW this will probably be a six week cycle, I really appreciate any input any NPP users can give here...

Just commenting on what I'm currently doing, I started a cycle of Test E/NPP/Dbol on Monday. With that said, if you want to maintain that leanness without bloat you may want to go with Beastdrol instead. Dbol would be great for size, but there is definitely a lot of water you retain while on it.

 

[MattJS]

Rick, thanks for your input, I've used Dbol a couple of times and I'm not that worried about bloat (because it goes away after and can be controlled with AI/diet) more about gaining actual bodyfat... I'd be very interested to see how your cycle goes, any chance of a log or even an occasional update? My only problem with Dbol on this occassion is it makes me horny as fk and my gf is expecting in april so that could be inconvenient lol

 

[Tux]

I'd also advise against dbol if trying to stay lean... even if you control the water to some degree, some is still there. I'd personally go maybe tbol or MHN if you can get it, also beast was a pretty good recommendation. If you're not dead set on orals, how about just test prop? Cheap as hell, you can shoot it same days you do the NPP, and the water is easily controlled with an AI like arimidex.

 

[Gorilla-Pharma]

I would run the D Bol

Although I do like T-Bol and still great gains with less bloat.

 

[C0LUMB0]

60mg of tbol ...less bloat and decent strength.

 

[bgriffin989]

I would run either t-Bol, beast, or maybe anavar if you wanna stay dry and kickstart or finish your cycle.

 

[oxymoron]

Diesel would give u a lot of size without all the water. Something to look into...

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[RickRock13]

Rick, thanks for your input, I've used Dbol a couple of times and I'm not that worried about bloat (because it goes away after and can be controlled with AI/diet) more about gaining actual bodyfat... I'd be very interested to see how your cycle goes, any chance of a log or even an occasional update? My only problem with Dbol on this occassion is it makes me horny as fk and my gf is expecting in april so that could be inconvenient lol

Yes, the water can be controlled pretty well with diet and AI easily, so if you aren't concerned with a little temporary water weight, dbol is a good option. As for the libido increase, I'm married and lucky if I get it once per week with young kids in the house so I hope it doesn't become a problem for me too..lol

I may throw a half ass log up sometime today. I don't know how much I will be able to update it though, since I've been busier than shit lately. If I put one up I will throw a link up in here for ya

 

[RickRock13]

Started my log just a bit ago bud

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1026543

 

[jondale123]

Run helladrol with it at 6 weeks

 

[joeojoeo]

Matt, i ran a npp cycle last winter and wouldn't run it less than 8weeks as it didn't kick in before mid week 3, and run it with anavar for lean mass, great cycle!

 

[dylangemelli]

i agree that you should run npp 8 weeks... to maintain leanness, i would run a dht, like winstrol with it... you could also run anavar but i think winstrol will keep you the driest while still allowing you to maintain size...

 

[zwhit]

i agree that you should run npp 8 weeks... to maintain leanness, i would run a dht, like winstrol with it... you could also run anavar but i think winstrol will keep you the driest while still allowing you to maintain size...

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Or mast if you're not dead set on an oral. If I ever run npp again. It'll be with one of those two

 

[muscleaddiction]

Yes, the water can be controlled pretty well with diet and AI easily, so if you aren't concerned with a little temporary water weight, dbol is a good option. As for the libido increase, I'm married and lucky if I get it once per week with young kids in the house so I hope it doesn't become a problem for me too..lol

I may throw a half ass log up sometime today. I don't know how much I will be able to update it though, since I've been busier than shit lately. If I put one up I will throw a link up in here for ya

I know what you mean bro lol...I get the rolling of the eyes "again?" Yes again, I married you to forsake all other women and have sex solely with you...now stop whining and give it up woman!!!

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[ALIN]

I've just got my hands on some heavily discounted NP, I won't be using it until february probably, I'm on a cut blast at the mo (250 test e, 75mg EOD tren a and low dose winstrol finisher) so my goal for this next short blast will be maximum lean mass gain...

I want to pack on as much mass as possible without losing the leanness that I'm working hard to acquire now....

I'm just trying to decide on an oral kickstart or finisher, been thinking along the lines of Dbol or Beastdrol... BTW this will probably be a six week cycle, I really appreciate any input any NPP users can give here...

I always have liked WINSTROL/NPP/TEST PROP

 

[MattJS]

Wow loads of info here thanks everyone! I'll be following your log every step of the way Rick! You're gonna be a monster! I realised I have enough NP to run it to 8 1/2 weeks if necessary so if I'm still seeing gains I'll keep it going... I've run longer cycles up until now and I get the feeling that out of those 10/12/16 weeks only 3-4 of those weeks are very productive, there's a long wait for longer esters to kick in, then once it does the effect only lasts a few weeks before things slow down again, hence the departure to shorter acting gear, I'm hoping to get in, make gains and get out quickly so I'm not wasting time being on 'cycle' when I don't need to be, there's loads of good suggestions here, to be honest I think I'll see how Rick's cycle goes with the dbol before deciding : )