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Best Oral to Finish Cycle

Brewers17

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About to start a test/proviron 12 weeker and wanted to cap it off with an oral for the last 4-5 weeks. The budget's a little low and my goal is to keep as much strength as possible. Any suggestions?
 
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I never really saw the purpose of oral "finishers" in any cycle. Usually levels are topping out at the end of a cycle anyway...



:cow:
 
samoth said:
I never really saw the purpose of oral "finishers" in any cycle. Usually levels are topping out at the end of a cycle anyway...



:cow:


well, if you finish with 5 weeks of winny, you will be shredded
 
Twoguns said:
well, if you finish with 5 weeks of winny, you will be shredded

I think your exgerating the effects on winstrol. I took it for 4 weeks at 60mg ED at the end of my cycle with only effect being 24/7 forearm pumps.
 
Unless you are very low BF anyway then winny will not make a big difference IMHO

I would look at var but your budget may prevent that. if not then would look at clen & e/c/a

Wrongun!
 
Twoguns said:
well, everyone is affected differently. I love the winny and it shredded me

What BF %age were you pre start of winny - how did you change your diet if at all and what did you end up at?

Winny will strip out the water i.e. some bloat - hence why joint pains can be realised but to see significant changes then from experience you need to be at a low BF anyway and / or change diet

Wrongun!
 
samoth said:
I never really saw the purpose of oral "finishers" in any cycle. Usually levels are topping out at the end of a cycle anyway...

:cow:


Isn't using an oral as a "finisher" the equivalent of switching from say test enth to prop at the end of a cycle? Just makes it easier to transition into PCT?
 
Brewers17 said:
About to start a test/proviron 12 weeker and wanted to cap it off with an oral for the last 4-5 weeks. . My goal is to keep as much strength as possible. Any suggestions?
for your goal I would say var bro....


but on a side note....."thank you for changing that.
 
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Startin with prop at 150mg EOD for four weeks so my levels should be pretty stable all the way through. My concern is the joints for winny and the cost of var. I know its usually used as a "kickstart" but has anybody finished with OT?
 
I've been considering finishing my upcoming test enth + tren ace + EQ cycle with OT. Have gotten mixed opinions on it.
 
njmuscleguy said:
I've been considering finishing my upcoming test enth + tren ace + EQ cycle with OT. Have gotten mixed opinions on it.

Never used OT or had any friends use it. You think it would shut you down a little more as opposed to using anavar?
 
I don't know much about var, haven't take it myself... but I understand that there is a good deal of suppression caused by it whereas Tbol is fairly mild.

However, at the end of a cycle, you're fully suppressed already, so the difference in the degrees of suppression between those two probably doesn't matter much.

The whole point of an oral as a "finisher" is to keep your body in an anabolic state with something that leaves your system quickly, while waiting for the longer esters to clear.
 
yes finish with an oral and start it the week of your last injection. that way you give plenty of time for those long esters to clear (MOST COMMON PCT MISTAKE - STARTING TOO SOON!)

the oral should be one that does not aromatize into estrogen. also avoid anything even remotely similar to a progestin. so i like DHT based like winny, var, and/or proviron
 
Triple J said:
yes finish with an oral and start it the week of your last injection. that way you give plenty of time for those long esters to clear (MOST COMMON PCT MISTAKE - STARTING TOO SOON!)

the oral should be one that does not aromatize into estrogen. also avoid anything even remotely similar to a progestin. so i like DHT based like winny, var, and/or proviron


Good statement. I agree.
 
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
why would he be "shredded" if he finished with 5 weeks of winny????? Winny isn't a fat burner.

like I said, i got shredded on the shit. of course I was on a cutter, but it affected me like never before and I got silly ripped, since I did nothing different from last cutter except take winny, then that is what i give the props too.
 
How about a proper PCT of clomid and HCG and maybe some Nolvadex, that will help you keep your gains.
No matter how much shit you take, if you come off it wrong and your levels crash it will all go down the drain anyways.
 
Clintro said:
How about a proper PCT of clomid and HCG and maybe some Nolvadex, that will help you keep your gains.
No matter how much shit you take, if you come off it wrong and your levels crash it will all go down the drain anyways.

Completely agree... HCG at 250iu 2x week 1-12 then two weeks off for Nolva at 20mg week 14-17. Havent needed clomid in the past so Im stickin with what works.
 
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