Best oral compound for lean mass...

[usudno]

Any opinions?? I've run Tbol, var, winny all separate and tbol/var together. Would a low does dbol with an ai beat out these or would something else be better. I'm just researching my next cycle. My gutts telling me to go with tbol solo. My source seems to be underdosed a bit i got decent results at 70mg ed. Thanks for any help.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

I get pretty good results with T'bol abit leaner with winni but a little less size , so i pick t'bol.



Brad.

 

[RADAR]

One answer "Beastdrol"

 

[joe d]

i like dbol.

 

[captainahole]

I'm leaning towards tbol. dbol makes me want to have sex all the time.

 

[C.K.]

low dose dbol under 30 mgs will provide no bloat or gyno

 

[ChangNam]

wow i am no var fan. but strange no one mention it...

 

[truckdaddy]

tbol rocks

 

[Big A]

var at 100mg a day kicks ass.

 

[layinback]

var at 100mg a day kicks ass.

or better yet

REAL var @ 40 mgs ed.

i have u.s. pharm oxandrolone and 100 mgs would be intolerable

after 2 weeks at 60 mg headaches, stomach upset, loss
of apetite and excruciating pumps. not to mention it'll
take your LDL HDL 6 months to normalize.

oxandrolone has scientific documentation as a fat burner. visceral \ trunk
fat was significantly reduced with 20 mgs a day for 3 months. the test
subjects were able to maintain their fat loss a year after the study and
that's with no diet or weight training!

 

[ChangNam]

or better yet

REAL var @ 40 mgs ed.

i have u.s. pharm oxandrolone and 100 mgs would be intolerable

after 2 weeks at 60 mg headaches, stomach upset, loss
of apetite and excruciating pumps. not to mention it'll
take your LDL HDL 6 months to normalize.

oxandrolone has scientific documentation as a fat burner. visceral \ trunk
fat was significantly reduced with 20 mgs a day for 3 months. the test
subjects were able to maintain their fat loss a year after the study and
that's with no diet or weight training!

Bro wish i had some real var. I have var brand named OXAN from ................. And i use it up to 60mg ed and feel nothing from it. Have friends who use the same stuf. And them was wery happy about them. But i realy not know. How is it posible to gaine 9kg's in 5-6 weeks on 40mg var ed ? Thats what my friend did. And hi did not split them up. Him was taking them all 1 houer before training...

 

[ALIN]

Any opinions?? I've run Tbol, var, winny all separate and tbol/var together. Would a low does dbol with an ai beat out these or would something else be better. I'm just researching my next cycle. My gutts telling me to go with tbol solo. My source seems to be underdosed a bit i got decent results at 70mg ed. Thanks for any help.

For lean mass I like ANAVAR really well. Of course the TBOL and WINSTROL will work too if you do it right.

 

[layinback]

Bro wish i had some real var. I have var brand named OXAN from ................. And i use it up to 60mg ed and feel nothing from it. Have friends who use the same stuf. And them was wery happy about them. But i realy not know. How is it posible to gaine 9kg's in 5-6 weeks on 40mg var ed ? Thats what my friend did. And hi did not split them up. Him was taking them all 1 houer before training...

brutha you can't gain 20 lb's of lean mass in 6 weeks on anavar.
you could prolly gain 10 - 12 lb's lean mass in 12 weeks if you're
doing it right. but it's real tissue and 100% keepable.

oxandrolone needs to be ran for 12 weeks minimum. you can run
30 mgs ED for 15 - 20 weeks with no issues provided you supp
with flax or fish oil and lay off the booz and tylenol.

my doc has a couple patients with HIV who've been on ox for 3 years
at 20 - 30 mgs ED!!!

 

[gripweight]

layinback do you do split dosages with var ? or 20 mg split through out the day twice? cuz half life is only 9 hours? does it matter?

cuz i was gonna run 40mgs of var for 8 weeks

 

[layinback]

layinback do you do split dosages with var ? or 20 mg split through out the day twice? cuz half life is only 9 hours? does it matter?

cuz i was gonna run 40mgs of var for 8 weeks

you can split if you like. actually half life is 10.5 hrs.

i've done it both ways. you can do 20 morning and 20 in the eve
about 8 hrs in between. there's evidence that taking on empty
stomach helps bioavailabilty.

 

[Snyrx7]

oxandrolone needs to be ran for 12 weeks minimum. you can run
30 mgs ED for 15 - 20 weeks with no issues provided you supp
with flax or fish oil and lay off the booz and tylenol.

This is 100%. False! It does not need to be run for 12 weeks , although it most likely can I would never suggest it. Besides you will prob have better gains off 2. 6 or 7 week cycles. Also. I love my flax/ fish oils and always take them on and off but I'm not sure what if any effect they have on your liver so taking them Will not be enough, I would also take some type of liver support supps and atleast 1 gallon of water a day.

 

[d_rson]

oxandrolone needs to be ran for 12 weeks minimum. you can run
30 mgs ED for 15 - 20 weeks with no issues provided you supp
with flax or fish oil and lay off the booz and tylenol.

This is 100%. False! It does not need to be run for 12 weeks , although it most likely can I would never suggest it. Besides you will prob have better gains off 2. 6 or 7 week cycles. Also. I love my flax/ fish oils and always take them on and off but I'm not sure what if any effect they have on your liver so taking them Will not be enough, I would also take some type of liver support supps and atleast 1 gallon of water a day.

No, it's not false, though I think min is 8 weeks, but if you run REAL var that is not var cut with something else, it really starts to shine in week 8. I've run pharm var twice now, and both times it just slowly builds into week 8 and really shines past that.

And since REAL var is mostly metabolized by the kidneys, it's extremely mild on the liver. Patients taking 25m of var for muscle wasting are on all year long with NO liver problems.

But since so much var is either var cut wth something else, or not var at all, I would never recommend anyone running UG var past 8 weeks.

 

[layinback]

No, it's not false, though I think min is 8 weeks, but if you run REAL var that is not var cut with something else, it really starts to shine in week 8. I've run pharm var twice now, and both times it just slowly builds into week 8 and really shines past that.

And since REAL var is mostly metabolized by the kidneys, it's extremely mild on the liver. Patients taking 25m of var for muscle wasting are on all year long with NO liver problems.

But since so much var is either var cut wth something else, or not var at all, I would never recommend anyone running UG var past 8 weeks.

+1

thanks bro!

my doc has HIV peeps on 20 and 30 mgs for years with no issues.

you'd be hard pressed to find any incident of real liver damage in the medical
literature. shit they prescribe oxandrolone for cirrhosis of the liver and
winstrol induced hepatitis!

 

[brandonp005]

Red meat taken orally after it comes off the grill! haha

I like Beastdrol myself...Haven't tried Var or Tbol though.

 

[snorkles]

anavar. no sides what so ever. great strength.

 

[usudno]

I liked the ug var that i ran.. I'm not sure who has the best stuff but HG var is a pipe dream for me. My local source has a very limited selection of gear. Most of what i get is UG from other places. Thanks for the input.