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best milk thistle available? (Mendo?/Radar?)

Samson2012

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Hoping I can get a general consensus on the most effective form and brand of milk thistle available for my upcoming OT cycle...

(Mendo - appreciate your post re: hydration and renal sides... I'll be following your lead there.)

Looking to come out 10 pounds + but with a healthy liver.

Thanks in advance...
 
chase152 said:
You can get just about any brand out there. Just go to your local cvs. OT isn't that harsh.

Hey, Chase---
Probably right since I'll just be running 200mg ED... j/k

You really think makes absolutely no difference?

BTW - how's yours progressing?
 
Stuck at 195. Seems like I'm losing fat though. So might be gaining muscle still. Cardio will kill on that shit. I tried jogging today. My calves couldn't take the pump. Arms felt like exploding too. I'm using 50mg ed. Hope your shit works out well for you.
 
The best thing to do with herbs is make sure you are getting it from a company with an established reputation. In the supplement industry, you get what you pay for. Do you want it to work, or do you just want it? If you buy something from Wal-Mart, your local grocery, GNC, or Vitamin world you're buying the bottom of the barrel as far as quality and potency. Companies like Solgar, Country life, Solary, Enzymatic Therapies, etc... cost more, but at least they actually work. Personally, I'll take the BMW over the Yugo any day of the week.

Nature's Way is a great herb company, has been around for years, and does third party testing, they're pretty consistent with their herbs. You definitely want the standarized extract over the whole herb. The whole herb is just parts of the plant crushed up and put in a capsule. Standarization isolates the chemicals that work in an herb and gives you a consistant dosage of those chemicals just like a drug. I'm starting Foremost Milk Thistle 175mg Silymarin standarized extract 3 times per day as soon as it comes in. I'll let you know if my liver enzymes go down on my next blood test. They're pretty screwed up right now. They are a new company with european pharmacudical grade standards, so far all my customers notice a big difference in the potency of the Foremost products.

L-glutithione is extremely important for liver health too. If you use whey protein it has been shown in studies to increase L-glutithione levels in the liver. Lecithin has been shown to help remove fatty deposits in the liver as well as EFA's like cod liver oil (Nordic Naturals is awesome and tastes good), flax, primrose, borage, etc... A blend like Total EFA from Health from the sun is a good option too. Phosphatidyl choline has also been shown in studies to help fatty liver. Garlic is awesome as well. I suggest a liver cleanse after a cycle to most of my clients that juice. Renew Life has a great liver cleanse formula that I'm starting on Monday. I've been on testosterone replacement since 2000 and my liver enzymes just came back fairly high so I'm pretty freaked out and pissed off. Drink tons of water with fresh lemon juice too, it's great to detox the liver.
 
I havent been running anything for liver and blood test just came back fine.
My ldl was 88 and hdl 34 which made me very happy also. Of course I use crestor, fish oil, garlic w/lecithin, and a niacin product with policasanol. My diet is complete shit also.lol
 
chase152 said:
Stuck at 195. Seems like I'm losing fat though. So might be gaining muscle still. Cardio will kill on that shit. I tried jogging today. My calves couldn't take the pump. Arms felt like exploding too. I'm using 50mg ed. Hope your shit works out well for you.
Chase, how do u recommend splitting up the doses of OT? 1 every 6 hrs because of its 1/2 life, or do u suggest something different. Also ,what do u suggest for when one goes off cycle for PCT. Thanx. I know I need to stay really hydrated during this cycle. Are u taking creatine during yours? Ive seen a couple posts that have set OT really increases creatine uptake. What do u think? Thank you.
 
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