Best form of Nicotine for fat-loss

[MrMakaveli]

Obviously not talking smoking here.

I've been using the gum with great results but I've been reading alot and wondering if other forms (patch, or lonzege) would be better since blood levels might be more even? Also I just ran across Nicitrol NS (nasal spray) which I never knew was offered and I'm sure I could pick this up.

Any experiences or thoughts?

 

[eat big]

does it have the same negative side effects as tobacco? my mom used to work for phillip morris and said the patches arent much better

 

[juve]

14mg patch + 8-12mg gum/lozenge co-administration
efficacy, nonetheless, can be attained at dosages as low as 8mg (4x2mg per day or 2x4mg per day) if timed appropriately.
Co-administration with choline sources, or AChE-I's (Huperzine A, Galanthamine) could make things fun

 

[macrophage69alpha]

use of galantamine (in neurogenex ) will decrease attenuation to nicotine (it upregulates nicotinc receptors)

 

[MrMakaveli]

use of galantamine (in neurogenex ) will decrease attenuation to nicotine (it upregulates nicotinc receptors)

*cracks open bottle of nerogenix again*. Would you recommend changing dosing for just upregulating nicotine receptors as opposed to regular dosing (ie can I use for 1-2 weeks at a certain neruogenix cap dose and then stop for a bit)

Also..

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/77/6/1442 (Thermogenic Effect of Nic+Caffeine).

It says the thermogenic effect was not effected by smoking status (smokers >= 1 year were mandatory). Is it then same to assume that the thermogenic effects produced by nicotine do not downregulate with long-term use?

 

[MrMakaveli]

does it have the same negative side effects as tobacco? my mom used to work for phillip morris and said the patches arent much better

Would guess it depends on the person but I've read most accounts that say potential for addiction (Except in the case of nasal spray due to blood level spikes) is far far less with NRT than tabacco. I only started using the gum after deciding to give up my newport habit and it has worked remarkbly well.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/77/6/1442 (Thermogenic Effect of Nic+Caffeine).

It says the thermogenic effect was not effected by smoking status (smokers >= 1 year were mandatory). Is it then same to assume that the thermogenic effects produced by nicotine do not downregulate with long-term use?

the study indicates that the combined thermic effects of caffiene and nicotine do not decrease. But nicotine regulates metabolism by several pathways.

it is interesting that 2mg caused "side effects" because that is not very much.- having never been a smoker yet sampled nicotine.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

*cracks open bottle of nerogenix again*. Would you recommend changing dosing for just upregulating nicotine receptors as opposed to regular dosing (ie can I use for 1-2 weeks at a certain neruogenix cap dose and then stop for a bit)

could really be used either way. Which would be most effective, hard to say and would likely vary with respect to individual response. There should be no issue with "spiking" the dose and then returning to baseline dosing. You should find a notable difference with the higher neurogenex dose, though the exact "form" that difference will take will likely vary. Because the other ingredients and individual variations will also have impacts.

 

[d3track]

ok, i'm going to show some ignorance......
long term sides of using nicotine?
maybe i am just brain washed but i am not thinking that this is the greatest thing to put in your body......

 

[MrMakaveli]

ok, i'm going to show some ignorance......
long term sides of using nicotine?
maybe i am just brain washed but i am not thinking that this is the greatest thing to put in your body......

It isn't the greatest but it is not hardly the danger ciggs are. Nicotine actually has some health BENIFITS (suprising eh) and is generally much less addictive than ciggeretes and lacking many of the cancer causing agents.