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Best cutting cycle

mod carb, mod-high cardio, high protein,lots of water, 80-120mcs clen, slow acting low androgen anabolic. i like eq,primo,winni. GODDAMN! not the best for hairline though!
create deficite without dropping off to many protein cals though. 11/2 protein grams per 1lb bw.
 
There is no "best cuting cycle". Almost any type of AAS can be used to "cut" with. It all depends on your diet

M18
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
There is no "best cuting cycle". Almost any type of AAS can be used to "cut" with. It all depends on your diet

M18

A worthy philosophy. Still, try cutting with strong, bloatful orals like Anadrol or D-bol. I'd like to see that.

My $0.02, it is EASIEST to cut with tren/EQ, winny/EQ, or Anavar stacked with any one of the three I've just mentioned. I say easiest because var, EQ, winny and tren tend to put on lean BM all by themselves without excess bloat, estrogen, or BF retention, in conjunction with the right diet of course.

-e
 
escher said:
A worthy philosophy. Still, try cutting with strong, bloatful orals like Anadrol or D-bol. I'd like to see that.

My $0.02, it is EASIEST to cut with tren/EQ, winny/EQ, or Anavar stacked with any one of the three I've just mentioned. I say easiest because var, EQ, winny and tren tend to put on lean BM all by themselves without excess bloat, estrogen, or BF retention, in conjunction with the right diet of course.

-e

DBOL should be a great cutting drug, given its muscle sparing abilities...Keep the carbs in checlk and water shouldnt be a major issue.
 
DCC--

I've always wondered, what does your handle mean? "DiamondCutCows." I feel like it is plain-as-day and I am just missing it. Thanks.

-e
 
escher said:
A worthy philosophy. Still, try cutting with strong, bloatful orals like Anadrol or D-bol. I'd like to see that.

My $0.02, it is EASIEST to cut with tren/EQ, winny/EQ, or Anavar stacked with any one of the three I've just mentioned. I say easiest because var, EQ, winny and tren tend to put on lean BM all by themselves without excess bloat, estrogen, or BF retention, in conjunction with the right diet of course.

-e


Actually, it's funny you say that. I am currently cuting with D-Bol, Cyp and NPP combined with a low dose of Anastrozole. I am in my second week and even on a low cal, very low carb diet I am losing body fat, staying full and geting stronger.

M18
 
escher said:
DCC--

I've always wondered, what does your handle mean? "DiamondCutCows." I feel like it is plain-as-day and I am just missing it. Thanks.

-e

LOL, Its very simple. A normal person has "calves" I have COWS. They happen to be CUT like a DIAMOND.

DIAMONDCUTCOWS :cow:
 
DiamondCutCows said:
LOL, Its very simple. A normal person has "calves" I have COWS. They happen to be CUT like a DIAMOND.

DIAMONDCUTCOWS :cow:

Then in that case, I hate you, AND Mike Matarazzo. I wasn't blessed with calves, and mine are wicked strong and resillient but refuse to grow no matter how I spice up the routine. So to hell with you and Mad Mazz and anyone else with genetically gifted calves!

Thanks for explaining, though.

-e

Did I sound a little bitter?
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
Actually, it's funny you say that. I am currently cuting with D-Bol, Cyp and NPP combined with a low dose of Anastrozole. I am in my second week and even on a low cal, very low carb diet I am losing body fat, staying full and geting stronger.

M18

Stang,

If you're being honest, AND getting lean results, then I will readily eat my words. However, I also wasn't factoring ancillaries and anti-Es into the equation, just the steroids by themselves. Hence the arsenal I listed.

Think we can both agree there is no such thing as cutting with Anadrol though. Easier to control estrogen from D-bol than progesterone from A-bombs. What dose of anastrozole? .5mg EOD?

-e
 
escher said:
Stang,

If you're being honest, AND getting lean results, then I will readily eat my words. However, I also wasn't factoring ancillaries and anti-Es into the equation, just the steroids by themselves. Hence the arsenal I listed.

Think we can both agree there is no such thing as cutting with Anadrol though. Easier to control estrogen from D-bol than progesterone from A-bombs. What dose of anastrozole? .5mg EOD?

-e


It is my understanding that many competitors finsish off their contest prep with drol, i learned that from flexed1 i beleive.
 
jcp2 said:
It is my understanding that many competitors finsish off their contest prep with drol, i learned that from flexed1 i beleive.

Yes they do! DBOL should be best...
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
There is no "best cuting cycle". Almost any type of AAS can be used to "cut" with. It all depends on your diet

M18
K to you Mustang, you put it best and yet so simple!
 
escher said:
Stang,

If you're being honest, AND getting lean results, then I will readily eat my words. However, I also wasn't factoring ancillaries and anti-Es into the equation, just the steroids by themselves. Hence the arsenal I listed.

Think we can both agree there is no such thing as cutting with Anadrol though. Easier to control estrogen from D-bol than progesterone from A-bombs. What dose of anastrozole? .5mg EOD?

-e

Well I have no reason not to be honest bud and yes, trying to "cut" with Anadrol would be very hard. I am using .50/eod of Anastrozole.

M18
 
best cutting cycle is..

a routine that allows you to consume less calories without sacraficing massive amounts muscle and have enough energy to survive the day and still drop pounds and inches.

we cant tell you whats best for you, you are the only person who knows how you respond to certain macronutritional breakdowns and consumptions of those macros
 
This is pretty hilarious. Some guy wants to know a good cutting cycle and all anyine can do is argue about cutting on bulkers and spew on macronutrients. We can all try to be so obscure and knowledgeable that our advice becomes useless. OK, maybe you CAN cut on Dbol, but that's not what this guy is asking. Everyone knows the diets got to change, that's fucking obvious. But every time someone asks about cutting people have to throw out some non-specific and unhelpful shit about diet. The fucker didn't ask about diet and the best drug for him to cut on sure as fuck isn't Dbol. So let's all stop thinking we're a bunch of genius's and offer a little simple, useable, practical advice. I cut on 100mg tren eod and 50mg winny ed and got SHREDDED. I also don't think I'm horribly unique in the fact that long acting, aromatising drugs (like eq) work like shit for cutting. Why take these with a bunch of ancillaries when you can take non aromatising drugs and get bladed.
 
mammalspod said:
This is pretty hilarious. Some guy wants to know a good cutting cycle and all anyine can do is argue about cutting on bulkers and spew on macronutrients. We can all try to be so obscure and knowledgeable that our advice becomes useless. OK, maybe you CAN cut on Dbol, but that's not what this guy is asking. Everyone knows the diets got to change, that's fucking obvious. But every time someone asks about cutting people have to throw out some non-specific and unhelpful shit about diet. The fucker didn't ask about diet and the best drug for him to cut on sure as fuck isn't Dbol. So let's all stop thinking we're a bunch of genius's and offer a little simple, useable, practical advice. I cut on 100mg tren eod and 50mg winny ed and got SHREDDED. I also don't think I'm horribly unique in the fact that long acting, aromatising drugs (like eq) work like shit for cutting. Why take these with a bunch of ancillaries when you can take non aromatising drugs and get bladed.

That shit about diet is the MOST important part of cutting. We get used to folks coming on here and wanting to take certain drugs and magically be cut.
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
Actually, it's funny you say that. I am currently cuting with D-Bol, Cyp and NPP combined with a low dose of Anastrozole. I am in my second week and even on a low cal, very low carb diet I am losing body fat, staying full and geting stronger.

M18

Yes, you can diet on D-Bol. In fact it's a great diet drug used by most top amatuers and pro's in the begginning of the diet. For example I'm currently dieting with Ent., D-Bol, EQ. Works great. For those that doubt it, try it sometime. Some pros throw in Anadrol right before a show to increase fullness on stage. Not everyone can do it though w/o getting bloated as hell. It's a gamble. All depends on how one reacts to the drol.
 
mammalspod said:
This is pretty hilarious. Some guy wants to know a good cutting cycle and all anyine can do is argue about cutting on bulkers and spew on macronutrients. We can all try to be so obscure and knowledgeable that our advice becomes useless. OK, maybe you CAN cut on Dbol, but that's not what this guy is asking. Everyone knows the diets got to change, that's fucking obvious. But every time someone asks about cutting people have to throw out some non-specific and unhelpful shit about diet. The fucker didn't ask about diet and the best drug for him to cut on sure as fuck isn't Dbol. So let's all stop thinking we're a bunch of genius's and offer a little simple, useable, practical advice. I cut on 100mg tren eod and 50mg winny ed and got SHREDDED. I also don't think I'm horribly unique in the fact that long acting, aromatising drugs (like eq) work like shit for cutting. Why take these with a bunch of ancillaries when you can take non aromatising drugs and get bladed.
I have met and talked to very very few people who cut without test, you are in the minority, this includes people who compete. Out of all the drugs i have ever taken the only one i can say that it would be difficult to cut on is deca. Not to mention that i can guarantee you to about 99% certainty, that if someone comes on here asking "what the best cutting cycle is" they do not have the muscle mass to get "bladed" like you say off tren winny, but these are just my observations and my opinions.
 
For the summr I will probably be running a low dose dbol like 10mg ED in the morning, to this 20mg anavar and 25mg proviron. I beleeve that is more than enough to hold on to the mass if the diet is top of the line as with starting easy and tapper up the cardio insead of dropping calories. To that I will do EC
 
I would not use test on a cutting cycle.
 
Dial_tone said:
I would not use test on a cutting cycle.

Not even Prop or Susp??
 
I have had a lot of success with Tren 75mgED, 250mg test for mantainence and hard cardio with about a 10% cal deficit. I would think tren with EQ and winny would rock!
 
mammalspod said:
This is pretty hilarious. Some guy wants to know a good cutting cycle and all anyine can do is argue about cutting on bulkers and spew on macronutrients. We can all try to be so obscure and knowledgeable that our advice becomes useless. OK, maybe you CAN cut on Dbol, but that's not what this guy is asking. Everyone knows the diets got to change, that's fucking obvious. But every time someone asks about cutting people have to throw out some non-specific and unhelpful shit about diet. The fucker didn't ask about diet and the best drug for him to cut on sure as fuck isn't Dbol. So let's all stop thinking we're a bunch of genius's and offer a little simple, useable, practical advice. I cut on 100mg tren eod and 50mg winny ed and got SHREDDED. I also don't think I'm horribly unique in the fact that long acting, aromatising drugs (like eq) work like shit for cutting. Why take these with a bunch of ancillaries when you can take non aromatising drugs and get bladed.
Thank god! Someone who finally isn't so full of themself they can give honest advice to an honest question. He asked a question on a STEROID BOARD and gets a bunch of idiots telling him about all the other things that are important. We are assuming he knows about diet and training, just answer the question. I agree that drugs aren't what it's all about, but there are better choices and differences between drugs. Just chill out and try to help.
 
what about the primo? do you think a primo only cycle would be ok for avoiding all the bullshit w/estro? i know some who did primo only and got jackknived! whats your op.?
 
he asked what the best cutting cycle would be!!

it would be different if he asked

WHATS THE BEST MUSCLE SPARING AGENT WHILE DIETING

now you see the difference
 
There is no "most effective cuting cycle" PERIOD! That is the question that was asked and I gave him the correct answer. Generally there are some drugs out there that are not usually used when dieting but that does not mean they can't with great success. We are not preaching diet (even though it is the MOST important factor) but mearly stating that what works best for you may not work best for him. About the "cuting" with D-Bol, I never said it was the best or for anyone else to go ahead and try it. I don't give a fuck if you try it or not, I did and am seeing very good results so thats all that matters.
BTW...You'd be suprised at how very little some people know about proper nutrition and training but still use AAS ;)

M18
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
You'd be suprised at how very little some people know about proper nutrition and training but still use AAS ;)

M18

i wouldnt be suprised. everyone on the boards lean towards drugs first then nutrition. i use to be one of those people so at one time i was guilty
;)
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
There is no "most effective cuting cycle" PERIOD! That is the question that was asked and I gave him the correct answer. Generally there are some drugs out there that are not usually used when dieting but that does not mean they can't with great success. We are not preaching diet (even though it is the MOST important factor) but mearly stating that what works best for you may not work best for him. About the "cuting" with D-Bol, I never said it was the best or for anyone else to go ahead and try it. I don't give a fuck if you try it or not, I did and am seeing very good results so thats all that matters.
BTW...You'd be suprised at how very little some people know about proper nutrition and training but still use AAS ;)

M18

Yea bro, you said it best. Props for dat!
 
For me the best combo to cut up:
1) Diet:
300grams whey protien in water/ice no carbs
Eat light protien and carbs when hungry, just enough to end cravings.
Minimal fat intake <20g
Minimal carb intake <100-200g
4 multivitamins ED
No milk, soda, beer or sweets.

2) ECA stack 3 times a day (supresses appetite, gives great energy) w/ 100mcg clen EOD and T3 ramp up and down (increases metabolism by 12%). Without the efferdrine, with the diet above, I was hungry all the time and would break the diet.

3) Tren 75mg ED /winstrol 50mg ED/prop 50mg ED combo or Primo 800mg EW

4) Do cardio after workouts ED or workout non stop, high reps from 2 hours.
 
baby DBOL said:
For me the best combo to cut up:
1) Diet:
300grams whey protien in water/ice no carbs
Eat light protien and carbs when hungry, just enough to end cravings.
Minimal fat intake <20g
Minimal carb intake <100-200g
4 multivitamins ED
No milk, soda, beer or sweets.

2) ECA stack 3 times a day (supresses appetite, gives great energy) w/ 100mcg clen EOD and T3 ramp up and down (increases metabolism by 12%). Without the efferdrine, with the diet above, I was hungry all the time and would break the diet.

3) Tren 75mg ED /winstrol 50mg ED/prop 50mg ED combo or Primo 800mg EW

4) Do cardio after workouts ED or workout non stop, high reps from 2 hours.



you use ECA and clen and T3 together???? that's fucking nuts. plus AAS on the side?
 
trialbypinoy said:
you use ECA and clen and T3 together???? that's fucking nuts. plus AAS on the side?

It is very common for people to use E/C/A or Clen combined with Cytomel to shed unwanted body fat. If you are going to use Cytomel then AAS are a must as T3 can become very catabolic at higher doses (even 25 mcg a day). Clen and E/C/A at the same time has been done and works well as they effect diffrent receptors but I personally can not handle that amount of stimulants at once.

M18
 
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