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Best AAS for a restriced caloric diet?

Virtuoso

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Is their such a thing or is it just theory?
I've heard you can gain muscle on primo w/ reduced calories, but wouldn't mind a second opinion.
 
Primmo is the only one proven to add muscle in a calorie deficient state. Of course all the other compounds work for holding onto muscle mass when dieting.

The DHT's will make you look harder - Masteron, Anavar, and Winnie.

The nandrolones work great for cutting too - Trenbolone and Deka. You won't retain water on deka if you are cutting calories and carbs. Well ok, so try NPP if you have to.

Low dose dball <30mg per day and provirion can help keep up mood and libido while cutting.

IMHO.
 
st8grad said:
Primmo is the only one proven to add muscle in a calorie deficient state. Of course all the other compounds work for holding onto muscle mass when dieting.

The dihydrotestosterone's will make you look harder - Masteron, Anavar, and Winnie.

The nandrolones work great for cutting too - Trenbolone and Deka. You won't retain water on deka if you are cutting calories and carbs. Well ok, so try NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - if you have to.

Low dose dball <30mg per day and provirion can help keep up mood and libido while cutting.

IMHO.

Good read.

So I can feasibly to do low dose Deka/Dball cycle without looking too bloated or soft? My diet is going to be absurd clean and restriced: broccoli and dry sweet potato as only carb sources, chicken salmon or tuna, olive oil as fat source. No sauces/dressings.

Would you recommend primmo paired w/ susstanon base?
 
Virtuoso said:
Good read.

So I can feasibly to do low dose Deka/Dball cycle without looking too bloated or soft? My diet is going to be absurd clean and restriced: broccoli and dry sweet potato as only carb sources, chicken salmon or tuna, olive oil as fat source. No sauces/dressings.

Would you recommend primmo paired w/ susstanon base?




Thats a tight diet bro.
 
st8grad said:
Primmo is the only one proven to add muscle in a calorie deficient state. Of course all the other compounds work for holding onto muscle mass when dieting.
The dihydrotestosterone's will make you look harder - Masteron, Anavar, and Winnie.

The nandrolones work great for cutting too - Trenbolone and Deka. You won't retain water on deka if you are cutting calories and carbs. Well ok, so try NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - if you have to.

Low dose dball <30mg per day and provirion can help keep up mood and libido while cutting.

IMHO.

I've read the same thing repeatedly, but have never actually seen a study referenced - do you know where thats from?
 
good to see you here virt!

my next cycle will be

1-12 prim.o 600mg EW
1-12 200mg c.yp EW
6-12 v.ar 80mg ED

this will be lean, lean, lean.
 
swole said:
good to see you here virt!

my next cycle will be

1-12 prim.o 600mg EW
1-12 200mg c.yp EW
6-12 v.ar 80mg ED

this will be lean, lean, lean.

Whats new brother, lookin thick in that default
 
Primobolan - methenolone - from what i have read numerous times
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
HAHA womanizing first time i heard this and its pretty crack up lol

peace


:artist: hello good bro, its true lol

i recall Virtuoso being pretty which makes it worst since women bother those type of guys
 
Mavafanculo said:
I've read the same thing repeatedly, but have never actually seen a study referenced - do you know where thats from?

Excellent point. Like so many other axioms in this field, it's one of those theories that became "fact." Now, anecdotal evidence seems to indicate that Primmo (which I love) does in fact grow muscle on a calorie deficet, but to play devils advocate for a moment, it may be part illusion.

Theoretically, ALL steroids should be able to grow muscle on a calorie deficit diet, as long as there's ample protein. Let's say you get 200 grams of protein a day, which is a lot, you can still have a daily intake of under 2000 cals. Since anabolics retain nitrogen, you should grow muscle, just not as much as if you ate more cals.

Now stick with me for a minute.

Carbs will fill the muscles up and steroids help in glucose deposition. This is why you look bulkier and get better pumps. If carbs are low, this won't be as apparent. Low carbs cause slight dehydration and much of the "size" obtained from steroids comes from increased water volume. Blood volume is another factor. This was my reasoning behind developing VOGOR. Increase blood and pump and strength are increased as well. Not surprisingly, VIGOR works better in the presence of carbs. It needs that "fuel", as do steroids. Remove carbs from the equation and you remove some of what drugs like test and dball do so well. Since Primmo doesn't increase water either way, one may specualte that it doesn't matter if carbs are present or not.

Primmo , also being a DHT derivative (not straight DHT as some think) increases hardness and density. So you're going to look more "jacked" even if you lose weight -- the reason Primmo is considered a "cutting" drug (even though that term is technically incorrect). Though it's true that all steroids increase fat metabolism (to a degree) and some people believe Primmo does that better simply for the fact that it's also a mild anti estrogen, so again, giving the appearance of working without an increase in size.

So all in all, Primmo is a logical choice for this purpose, but for the most part, it's because of cosmetic reasons. Primmo can arguably be a bulking drug as well in that it is very effective in building muscle. But the "appearance" of muscle and "size" are made up of factors beyond an actual increase in muscle tissue hypertrophy.
 
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