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I saw something on the news the other day about too many concussions can cause dementia like symptoms. They actually got ahold of ricky waters brain that was preserved and did an autopsy on it and found it to be consistent with an 80 y/o dementia patients.

This can cause depression and irrational behavior. The guy is requesting benoit's brain from his family to do the same. We all know it wasn't the roids but maybe this will shed some light on the matter.

The NFL of course is bringing out thier experts to dispute the claims.
 
It is something the rest of the world will close thier eyes too cause a-AS are soooooo bad and that has to be the reason for the violence.
 
errn247 said:
It is something the rest of the world will close thier eyes too cause a-AS are soooooo bad and that has to be the reason for the violence.


After decades of the mainstream media bashing AS, the general public would absolutely freak the fuck out if it was revealed that AS weren't as dangerous as everyone thought. I mean seriously, if I told somebody I was gonna juice for 18 years straight in the late 80's, based on media reports most people would've thought I'd be dead in under 5 for sure. Well guess what??? 18 years later and I'm still kickin'...for now anyway??? lol Granted I was probably more responsible than most AS users, but even responsible use for shorter periods of time would be considered cheating death by most people.

Another thing to consider is that the public would have a difficult time accepting the fact that most of the pro athletes that they have idolized for years use AS. Since the public hates AS users and views them as cheaters, this would be to tough of a pill to swallow for most.(pun intended) So don't expect people to jump on the pro steroid bandwagon anytime soon.

Besides, people love having an excuse for why they don't have the ripped body of a Greek God and others do. If it weren't for the steroid naysayers, the 300+ cholesterol fatties with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other might have to hold themselves accountable for their own health problems and why they look and feel like shit 24/7.
 
BigCracker said:
After decades of the mainstream media bashing AS, the general public would absolutely freak the fuck out if it was revealed that AS weren't as dangerous as everyone thought. I mean seriously, if I told somebody I was gonna juice for 18 years straight in the late 80's, based on media reports most people would've thought I'd be dead in under 5 for sure. Well guess what??? 18 years later and I'm still kickin'...for now anyway??? lol Granted I was probably more responsible than most AS users, but even responsible use for shorter periods of time would be considered cheating death by most people.

Another thing to consider is that the public would have a difficult time accepting the fact that most of the pro athletes that they have idolized for years use AS. Since the public hates AS users and views them as cheaters, this would be to tough of a pill to swallow for most.(pun intended) So don't expect people to jump on the pro steroid bandwagon anytime soon.

Besides, people love having an excuse for why they don't have the ripped body of a Greek God and others do. If it weren't for the steroid naysayers, the 300+ cholesterol fatties with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other might have to hold themselves accountable for their own health problems and why they look and feel like shit 24/7.

Exactly. Besides i for one love to watch NFL football. I want those guys to perform in a way that will make for excellent football. If that means they gotta be juiced to the gills so be it. They are adults. Let them decide for themselves.
 
#1 Who was/is Ricky Waters?

#2 Benoit has been cremated. Good luck finding a brain in that ash pile.
 
Very good point BC.


BigCracker said:
After decades of the mainstream media bashing AS, the general public would absolutely freak the fuck out if it was revealed that AS weren't as dangerous as everyone thought. I mean seriously, if I told somebody I was gonna juice for 18 years straight in the late 80's, based on media reports most people would've thought I'd be dead in under 5 for sure. Well guess what??? 18 years later and I'm still kickin'...for now anyway??? lol Granted I was probably more responsible than most AS users, but even responsible use for shorter periods of time would be considered cheating death by most people.

Another thing to consider is that the public would have a difficult time accepting the fact that most of the pro athletes that they have idolized for years use AS. Since the public hates AS users and views them as cheaters, this would be to tough of a pill to swallow for most.(pun intended) So don't expect people to jump on the pro steroid bandwagon anytime soon.

Besides, people love having an excuse for why they don't have the ripped body of a Greek God and others do. If it weren't for the steroid naysayers, the 300+ cholesterol fatties with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other might have to hold themselves accountable for their own health problems and why they look and feel like shit 24/7.
 
rickey waters played for the eagles. he had 12+ concussions. When asked when he was going to retire he said after his 12th concusion. I didn't know he was creamated but maybe they preserved his brain like they did with waters. I am sure this doc would have known it is not available before he went and asked.
 
rickey waters played for the eagles. he had 12+ concussions. When asked when he was going to retire he said after his 12th concusion. I didn't know he was creamated but maybe they preserved his brain like they did with waters. I am sure this doc would have known it is not available before he went and asked.
 
BigCracker said:
After decades of the mainstream media bashing AS, the general public would absolutely freak the fuck out if it was revealed that AS weren't as dangerous as everyone thought. I mean seriously, if I told somebody I was gonna juice for 18 years straight in the late 80's, based on media reports most people would've thought I'd be dead in under 5 for sure. Well guess what??? 18 years later and I'm still kickin'...for now anyway??? lol Granted I was probably more responsible than most AS users, but even responsible use for shorter periods of time would be considered cheating death by most people.

Another thing to consider is that the public would have a difficult time accepting the fact that most of the pro athletes that they have idolized for years use AS. Since the public hates AS users and views them as cheaters, this would be to tough of a pill to swallow for most.(pun intended) So don't expect people to jump on the pro steroid bandwagon anytime soon.

Besides, people love having an excuse for why they don't have the ripped body of a Greek God and others do. If it weren't for the steroid naysayers, the 300+ cholesterol fatties with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other might have to hold themselves accountable for their own health problems and why they look and feel like shit 24/7.
good post bro..
 
agree. BC you crack me up with some of the shit you post. it always seems to be dead on and good advice.
 
ricky watters is dead? maybe i read thread wrong.

i had that guy on a fantasy team like 4 seasons ago!
 
chilisauce1 said:


damn, I thought it was weird how you could hang yourself on the lat machine.. how would you pull the weight stack down with one hand and manage to wrap it around your neck?

anyway, I don't think anyone else did it. Could you imagine the wreckage in the house if Benoit had fought back? That man was a wrecking machine.
 
hstern said:
he'd have been throwing chops and crossfaces all over the place


He wouldn't have been throwing a god damn thing if someone managed to breech his property and hold a gun to his wife/kid's head. He would've been humble and compliant to the bitter end. The only time that a struggle would've been an option would've been after his wife and kid were already dead. By that time he probably would've rather died anyway.

Something stinks about the whole thing but the steroid overtones are so easily consumed by the general public very few people will wanna see the forest through the trees.
 
After the kid was dead, he would not have sat there humbly for another day until they killed him. He would have lost his mind.
 
Maybe I misunderstood the TV show. They did a few pro football players that had passed. I thought he killed himself. My bad.
 
There's nothing that PROVES Benoit did it to me at all. Good point...how the fuck can you hand yourself on a lat machine!? And if someone put a gun to your head and to your wife and kids head what would you do? Also, they found xanex in the kids body. Sounds like whoever did this took the boy up stairs and put him to bed so they could easily control the situation. Why would Benoit have gave his kid xanex before he supposedly killed him? Why were there no signs of weird behavior on the road at the WWE? Why the fuck doesn't someone read into the fact that Benoit told friends someone had been following him? Why the fuck can't people see that this looks like a hired revenge killing from top to bottom.
 
Yes.......whats really funny is do a google search on Scary Sherry....read the events surrounding her death......

THEN.....do a google search on "Lovely Elizabeth...aka Miss Elizabeth" and read the events surrounding HER death (and her involvement with Luger)........these guys had xanax, and vicodin coming out the ass.....but the media will always blame steroids
 
chilisauce1 said:
There's nothing that PROVES Benoit did it to me at all. Good point...how the fuck can you hand yourself on a lat machine!? And if someone put a gun to your head and to your wife and kids head what would you do? Also, they found xanex in the kids body. Sounds like whoever did this took the boy up stairs and put him to bed so they could easily control the situation. Why would Benoit have gave his kid xanex before he supposedly killed him? Why were there no signs of weird behavior on the road at the WWE? Why the fuck doesn't someone read into the fact that Benoit told friends someone had been following him? Why the fuck can't people see that this looks like a hired revenge killing from top to bottom.

Maybe he had a paranoid episode. Sounds like wierd behaviour to me "someone is Following me" I am sure someone looked to see. None of us were there and dont know how it went down. Maybe the feds know it was not a suicide so the killer would let down his gaurd. if the others died in a similar way maybe they see this. I dunno.
 
errn247 said:
I saw something on the news the other day about too many concussions can cause dementia like symptoms. They actually got ahold of ricky waters brain that was preserved and did an autopsy on it and found it to be consistent with an 80 y/o dementia patients.

This can cause depression and irrational behavior. The guy is requesting benoit's brain from his family to do the same. We all know it wasn't the steroids but maybe this will shed some light on the matter.

The NFL of course is bringing out thier experts to dispute the claims.
errn, people see what they want to see. organic damage is mundane and not sexy like STEROIDS!!! listen to yourself say the word....use a deep ominous voice.....STEROIDS!!! scary aint it? the media has made up its collective mind. STEROIDS....ROID RAGE...OOOOOH. news is not news anymore, it is entertainment. its job is not to merely inform the public but rather to entertain us with a constant barrage of hodgepodge. it is not objective reporting anymore. it is a 24 hr a day running fucking editorializing advertising selling machine and to this end benoit and the juice are the "victims"
 
Dudes. People hang themselves with a bedsheet tied to prison bars or a vertically placed bed all the time. They just have such a strong will to die they choke themselves out. Benoit was on Xanax and pain killers, so it'd be pretty simple for him to off himself without much of a struggle.
I'm not saying elaborate conspiracies never happen, but they're few and far between.
 
layinback said:
errn, people see what they want to see. organic damage is mundane and not sexy like STEROIDS!!! listen to yourself say the word....use a deep ominous voice.....STEROIDS!!! scary aint it? the media has made up its collective mind. STEROIDS....ROID RAGE...OOOOOH. news is not news anymore, it is entertainment. its job is not to merely inform the public but rather to entertain us with a constant barrage of hodgepodge. it is not objective reporting anymore. it is a 24 hr a day running fucking editorializing advertising selling machine and to this end benoit and the juice are the "victims"

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b169/bigcracker/mysp comms/com5us_news_your_way.jpg
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
Dudes. People hang themselves with a bedsheet tied to prison bars or a vertically placed bed all the time. They just have such a strong will to die they choke themselves out. Benoit was on Xanax and pain killers, so it'd be pretty simple for him to off himself without much of a struggle.
I'm not saying elaborate conspiracies never happen, but they're few and far between.


Yeah, but when they do that, they don't have to pull a full weight stack down with one hand in order to wrap the cable around their neck.
 
AAP said:
damn, I thought it was weird how you could hang yourself on the lat machine.. how would you pull the weight stack down with one hand and manage to wrap it around your neck?

anyway, I don't think anyone else did it. Could you imagine the wreckage in the house if Benoit had fought back? That man was a wrecking machine.

steroids can help you do that!
 
Not if you 4'9", take xanax and drink 10-12 beers prior.

Heck, he would have had an easier time hanging himself from the smith machine. at least the height is adjustable there.
 
There was NO alcohol found in his system.





AAP said:
Not if you 4'9", take xanax and drink 10-12 beers prior.

Heck, he would have had an easier time hanging himself from the smith machine. at least the height is adjustable there.
 
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"Mild dementia: Short-term memory is impaired, as is language function, especially word finding. Aphasia (impaired ability to comprehend or use language), agnosia (impaired ability to identify objects despite intact sensory function), and apraxia (impaired ability to perform previously learned motor activities despite intact motor function) can develop. Executive function (eg, ability to plan, organize, and sequence) is impaired. Apathy is common. As a result, patients function less well. Patients may forget the name of a recent dinner guest or get lost on the way to the store. They may have progressive difficulty with formerly mastered complex activities (eg, driving) and moderately complex daily activities (instrumental activities of daily living; eg, handling finances, preparing meals, housekeeping). Patients are less likely to take the initiative. They have difficulty following directions.

Emotional lability is common. Patients may be irritable, hostile, and agitated.

Although mild dementia may not compromise sociability, family members may report that patients are not acting like themselves or are doing uncharacteristic things (eg, a miserly widower gives thousands of dollars to a questionable charity). Poor judgment is common.

Patients with mild dementia can usually compensate reasonably well and follow established routines at home. Difficulty often results from disruption of routine or a change in surroundings. For example, an elderly parent who visits a child's unfamiliar home may become disoriented or manifest behavioral symptoms and functional disability, which do not occur in more familiar surroundings."

http://www.merck.com/mkgr/mmg/sec5/ch40/ch40a.jsp

I have seen people hang themselves and still have their feet touching the floor with their knees bent. Where there is a will, there is a way. I saw the show that errn247 was talking about in the beginning of the thread. They stained brain tissue from a healthy person and a person who had the bell rung a few times and in the person with multiple head injuries they found tissue damage on a cellular level comparable with dementia/alzheimer patients .

Depression, despair, cognitive impairment, all coupled with pain medication and benzo's spells an unfortunate incident. And, as bigcracker stated earlier, this is not sensational reporting. The media will downplay the disitinct possibilty that too many hits to the head sent Benoit over the edge. After all, dirty laundry sells better than the truth.
 
BigRupe said:
steroids can help you do that!


HAHAAH FUNNY Shit.
This thread needed a little humor.

He seemed like a nice guy. Maybe he was. Maybe he was F'in CRAZY.
We will never know because your right the media likes drama!
 
chilisauce1 said:
There was NO alcohol found in his system dip shit! Think before you post. And making fun of someones height is really mature.


LOL!!! You've got big balls!!! You should start a thread specifically for the purpose of flaming the mods so everyone that posts on it can get banned!!! :p
 
Actually right now they are quite small. That was definately the Tren talking. My apologies. However, there was no alcohol found in his system. For all of you doubters please go to justiceforbenoit.com It tell how the text messages sent from the cell phones sent the WRONG zip code to the house. Also, Benoit showed no signs of un normal behavior on the job with the WWE and stated people had been following him. The neighbor also fled to Boston after this happened. The police had the neighbor go over and check on the Benoit family after the WWE had called him. Total set up job. Not sure who did it but definate set up. And anyone that knows Benoit knows he would not kill himself the weekend he was going to win the ECW World Title. Wrestling was his life.



BigCracker said:
LOL!!! You've got big balls!!! You should start a thread specifically for the purpose of flaming the mods so everyone that posts on it can get banned!!! :p
 
chilisauce1 said:
There was NO alcohol found in his system dip shit! Think before you post. And making fun of someones height is really mature.


Listen shorty, those beer cans didn't empty themselves did they? Or maybe he just kept the empty cans handy so he had something to stand on to reach the lat bar in the first place.

Please bring back more IQ to exhibit than that possessed by a newborn tadpole.
 
There was no alcohol found in his system. I don't know who drank the beer, but it obviously wasn't Benoit.



AAP said:
Listen shorty, those beer cans didn't empty themselves did they? Or maybe he just kept the empty cans handy so he had something to stand on to reach the lat bar in the first place.

Please bring back more IQ to exhibit than that possessed by a newborn tadpole.
 
Hey AAP!!!

You're a dipshit!!!!

You're immature too!!!

Wanna sleep over at my house and make prank phone calls and ding dong ditch the neighbors at 3AM??? Maybe we can watch boobies on late night Skinemax, eat some Pizza Rolls, and split a can of Keystone Light???? We can get wasted like big people!!! I'm so excited I can't sit still!!! Ut-oh, I think I made poopies in my pants. LOL!!!

Are you gonna let this guy disrespect you like that??? Dipshit. Hahahahaha!!!! (shamelessly stirring the pot)
 
Has the killed by Satanists conspiracy theory been completely written off as bullshit yet? I liked that one and it didn't seem that outlandish. I don't know how much better I'd feel if it were true though. I'm glad I'm Atheist so I don't have to be weirded out too much by that Satanic stuff. There's definitely some sick, evil ass people out there. Revenge by a Satanic Cult would definitely rival the steroid theory in popularity if it weren't for juice being in the news so much lately though.
 
I don't pretend to know the details of Benoits final moments. But he wouldn't have to had to pull the weight stack down. Just wrapping the cable around his neck and letting his body relax would have been enough to choke him out forever.
Nobody asked, so I'll have to volunteer my theory:
Benoit got in a heated arguement with his cunt wife (they found alchol in her system, along with pain pills and xanax) and he strangled her. Knowing that he would surely go to prison, and knowing that his severely handicapped son would have to be instatutionalized, he after grieving a couple of days opted to gently asphixiate his son, then off himself.
Just a theory, but it's a whole lot more likely than the Satanic Cult one.
 
I think satan did it himself then entered chilisauces body and has him writing these post to make people believe it was not statan himself, WHEN in FACT it was SAAAATAN
 
chilisauce1 said:
There was NO alcohol found in his system dip shit! Think before you post. And making fun of someones height is really mature.


lol too late braw! someone replied and quoted ya. lol
 
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