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DIVISION said:
Read my PM and respond please, honey.

I'd prefer to see your navel, and no it wouldn't scare me.




I understand why you say what you say furry Mammoth, but I don't play that way. I do what I do and I could care less what other people do, enemies or not, friend or foe. I am unaffected by others, I am my own entity. If people conspire to bring me down, so be it, but I'm a pretty tenacious person and noone has ever brought me down. My iron will is stronger than the hand of God.



I don't question human nature, furry Deltree. I simply don't "fear" ghosts or any of the supernatural. I encourage and embrace all things dark and unnatural, I wish I could experience some of the sick and twisted shit that other people see on a routine basis. I want the blood in the bathtub, the whispers in the empty pitchblack house, the moans of tortured souls. I want it all, and I want to interact with it and understand why it does what it does.

I am the type to walk up to a ghost and dare it to come my way.




DIV


You are such a pussy its unbelieable, if you want to face down the unknown partake in the "vine of the dead" and drink some ayahuasca. If not just shut the fuck up already, we all know that you are just a college punk that talks shit on the internet. Youre fooling no one, here order this try it and then come back and tell us how big and bad you are, if you dont, then you are lying about everything you state on this thread b/c you are truly afraid of the dead and the hell realms you will face.

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and then report how tough you are in a week. I know that you way too chicken, I challenge your manhood lil boy. Ive done it, are you badder than me or just a squeaky lil mouse.

From the Amazonian rain forst comes one of the most potent catalysts for expanded awareness yet discovered by human beings. In Ecuador and Peru this medicine is known as Ayahuasca, a Quechua Indian word meaning, ironically, "vine of the dead". In Columbia and parts of Brazil, the Tupi Indian name Yage (pronounced Ya-hay) is used, and among Amazonia's proliferating mestizo relious cults it is called Daime...

edited out b/c it was scaring Division too much after fifteen minutes. The big bad man called me out mommy, please make him stop.



12. Begin to think you're dying, being devoured to the clean-picked bone by a school of rainbow piranhas, submerged in the hell-realms suffering brutal tortures and repeated dismemberment at the teeth and claws of the blood-dripping minions of Lord Yama and various ferocious Mezoamerican deities like Tezcatlipoca simultaneously.
13. Experience a complete and utter ontological meltdown at the face of imminent death. Recognize if the 'huasca kills you now you'll be caught in one of the hell-bardos for a minor eternity due to your accumulated bad karma. Keep repeating your name to remind yourself that you have a body. Shower repeatedly to wash away the overwhelming forces of evil fighting over your soul ã in between rounds of projectile diarrhea. Marvel at just how full of shit you are.
14. Panic, but try to remind yourself that time is your ally, even though each moment seems like an eternity of suffering. Remember that"this too shall pass." Believe this with the greatest skepticism.
15. Continue this way for several hours, wondering all along if you'll actually be able to come out of the hell-worlds intact.
16. Wake up the following morning, swearing off psychedelics for at least a very long while, still fearful of inadvertently re-invoking this terrifying state of consciousness.
17. Go to bed the following night and reexperience this realm of consciousness during the hypnagogic state and nearly die of fright that you'll wind up in an ontological cul-de-sac someplace, dribbling down your chin until your time is up.
18. Eat LOTS of red meat, drink alcohol, lots of Tamasic foods. Try to get grounded. The quotidian banality of three dimensions can be a sane human's best friend.
19. Finally, several weeks later, look back on the experience without feeling a lingering sense of terror.
20. Begin to regain some perspective. Consider trying 'la purga' again under the supervision of a very experienced shaman able to help those less experienced to finally conquer these treacherous realms (as must ultimately be done). One must go into the breach again to be fully cured.
21. Maintain a VERY HEALTHY respect for the Vine of the Soul, recognizing that it can kill, regardless of what they say about tryptamine neurotoxicity. The tryptamines won't kill you; the heart-stoppage from unmitigated terror can, though.


Lets see how tough you really are mousey boy, I challenge your cowardice, its legal so you have no reason not to do it except fear.
 
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Eringobraugh said:
Lets see how tough you really are mousey boy, I challenge your cowardice, its legal so you have no reason not to do it except fear.

I didn't say I wanted to become a drugged out idiot like you, Ringo.....

I'm talking spirits, demons and the supernatural.

Stop jackin' the thread with your drug recipes, nobody is asking for that. :chomp:




DIV
 
DIVISION said:
I didn't say I wanted to become a drugged out idiot like you, Ringo.....

I'm talking spirits, demons and the supernatural.

Stop jackin' the thread with your drug recipes, nobody is asking for that. :chomp:




DIV

Pwned, thats what I thought, too chicken to try it. Its a plant that helps you talk to spirits demnos and the supernatural thats been used for thousands of years.'

Now just shut the hell up lil boy, you are just some pipsqueak sitting behind a computer talking shit. Too afraid to be a real man and try this. I bet you'd shit your pants and cry for your mommy. Just like when you were challenged to put your money where your mouth was yesterday about wanting to die a hero and yet here you are sitting in the US on the internet and not over in Iraq. Your crap is wearing thin mouseyboy. You talk alot of shit, but once you are called on it you shrink like a violet. Just another internet tough guy, bet you feel all big and bad talking shit on here, helps your puny ego.

You and your shittalk about pale goth bitches yet no woman would have a thing to do with your pansy ass, thats why you sit on the internet talk how thug you are on Friday and Saturday nights b/c you cant get a date. You are like the biggest joke on EF my man. Grow the hell up and grow some balls.
 
Eringobraugh said:
Pwned, thats what I thought, too chicken to try it. Its a plant that helps you talk to spirits demnos and the supernatural thats been used for thousands of years.'

Now just shut the hell up lil boy, you are just some pipsqueak sitting behind a computer talking shit. Too afraid to be a real man and try this. I bet you'd shit your pants and cry for your mommy.


I think your anemic crys for you to try and push a drug on someone who does not believe it it nor whats to take it is pathetic. That may work on the little kids you hang around that want to be cool just like you but its not going to work here. Try a few blocks down towards the heroin addicts.
 
Mammoth2500 said:
I think your anemic crys for you to try and push a drug on someone who does not believe it it nor whats to take it is pathetic. That may work on the little kids you hang around that want to be cool just like you but its not going to work here. Try a few blocks down towards the heroin addicts.

The dipshit is screaming for how to contact ghosts and supernatural entities, I offered a solution. People are here using roids for different purposes, are you a moron too and going to lump them with heroin addicts. Im not pushing a drug on anyone, just calling someone out on what they are saying, I knew that he would be too chicken to try it. Youre just as retarded as he is saying that Im pushing it on lil kids seeing as how the closest I come to lil kids are idiots like you on the internet with a brain the size of a pea. Take your feeble insults somewhere else, they dont work on me. This is the internet afterall, none of it is real, so dont get your panties in a bunch. Its a plant afterall, not a drug unless you think that spinach is a drug too. You might want to work on your grammar in the future, dont they teach you anything in highschool lil boy.
 
Eringobraugh said:
The dipshit is screaming for how to contact ghosts and supernatural entities, I offered a solution. People are here using roids for different purposes, are you a moron too and going to lump them with heroin addicts. Im not pushing a drug on anyone, just calling someone out on what they are saying, I knew that he would be too chicken to try it. Youre just as retarded as he is saying that Im pushing it on lil kids seeing as how the closest I come to lil kids are idiots like you on the internet with a brain the size of a pea. Take your feeble insults somewhere else, they dont work on me. This is the internet afterall, none of it is real, so dont get your panties in a bunch.

Dude, if none of this is real then why don't you take your fantasylandtalkin' bitchass somehwere else and play your games?

Nobody wants your druggie recipes here......knock on another door, nugga...

Nobody's buying.




DIV
 
DIVISION said:
Dude, if none of this is real then why don't you take your fantasylandtalkin' bitchass somehwere else and play your games?

Nobody wants your druggie recipes here......knock on another door, nugga...

Nobody's buying.




DIV


Whatsamatta lil boy, cant handle me? You can dish it out but you sure cant take it. Go cry to your mommy, there is a bad man messing with me, he posted a recipe that Im too scared too try. Make him go away mommy, make him stop. I edited out the recipe lil boy, it was as simple as making tea, hope that doesnt you scare either.
 
Eringobraugh said:
Whatsamatta lil boy, cant handle me? You can dish it out but you sure cant take it. Go cry to your mommy, there is a bad man messing with me, he posted a recipe that Im too scared too try. Make him go away mommy, make him stop.

Ringo.......

I think you've followed too many of your own recipes, bro. It's not a matter of me being scared, more like I just don't care. This thread isn't about drugs.



DIV
 
DIVISION said:
Ringo.......

I think you've followed too many of your own recipes, bro. It's not a matter of me being scared, more like I just don't care. This thread isn't about drugs.



DIV


It wasnt about drugs, it was about you being a coward and talking shit. You wanted to walk up to a ghost and call him out you said. I offered a way thats been used for thousands of years for you to do that. You got scared and now youre trying to change the subject. Just admit it, you are my biatch and I pwned you. You care enough to keep responding now dont you, your lil tiny ego cant handle me having the last word can it. Now go cry to your mommy lil boy, my internet world is crumbling. Fourteen thousand posts in eleven months. You have no life outside of this apparently. I suggest you turn the computer off and go outside of the bedroom in your parents basement where you live and actually start living in the real world instead of this fantasy world you've created here on the internet.
 
DIVISION said:
Ringo.......

I think you've followed too many of your own recipes, bro. It's not a matter of me being scared, more like I just don't care. This thread isn't about drugs.



DIV


Right on the nose there. :smash:
That was waste of my time and this good thread.
 
Mammoth2500 said:
Right on the nose there. :smash:
That was waste of my time and this good thread.

Would you like me to drop a bomb on Ringo's head?

If I want I can have the Bomb Squad fade him to black......:evil:







DIV
 
Ayahuasca.... sounds like something gnc would sell! What's with the "lil boy" stuff?? My take is that you've been chasing the dragon a little to much
 
1 time a door shut and locked by itself when my wife was laying on the bed.

Another time a hand materialized in the living room and tried grabbing her brother, he screamed , it disappearred, and afterwards the table it was on and the immediate area was wet. ??
 
DIV, I feel the same way about spirits. I don't think I am one of those people who can see them; my ex-girlfriend saw them all the time. One time she told me one was in the room but I saw nothing...and she's nowhere near crazy. Whenever I get the feeling someone is in the room I'll call out and ask them what they want...but they never try to make contact.

But maing what happens when one of those fuckers decides it want's to choke you...and you can't fight back?
 
DIVISION said:
You should have screamed at the voices and dared them to come closer and show themselves. You should have challenged the ghosts, they were interrupting your sleep.




DIV


A friend and I challenged a ghost (or something??) once... He lived in a house where several people had seen a ghost walking around on a fairly regular basis. Anyway, we had just gotten back to his house and walked into the kitchen and the lights started flickering really strangely... So, being the brave teenagers we were, we looked at each other kinda funny like WTF? All of a sudden my friend yells out "If you want us, come get us!!!!"..... Right after he yelled that the lights went off and both doors to his kitchen slammed shut!! About the only thing we could do was to run outside yelling "Holy shit" over and over again... We were the only people in the house when this happened, but I know as a firsthand witness that this happened... I guess that things being moved around his house was fairly common as well. I never saw the ghost personally, but my friend saw it on a regular basis, like a couple times a week. Several other friends (people I knew and was good friends with as well) saw it pretty regularily as well....

Another interesting thing... Some Christians (VERY, VERY FEW!!) can actually see demons sometimes (it is considered a spiritual gift). My moms friend has that ability and has told me about several instances where she would be walking down a street and see someone walking along, and all of a sudden that person would look at her funny and the face of the demon would appear and then gradually the whole body would become more and more visible until she no longer saw the person, but just the demon walking down the street... Then, it would suddenly turn back to the person and keep walking like nothing ever happened. After asking her about it more, she said that what it is she can see is the demons that possess people and are manifested in them... freaky stuff....

My girlfriend saw something freaky once (she is a Christian as well)... She was sitting in a hot tub with a bunch of friends and when she looked at this one guy, his face turned into (as she described it) a big black hole.... She said that his face was there at first and then just turned pitch black, like the deepest black she had ever seen, but it also appeared to have some sort of depth to it... She said that she had an overwhelming sense of evil when this happened and got out of the tub, grabbed a couple of friends (who she knew were Christians as well) and led them into another room. All she said was "We need to pray for (her friend)".... when she went back, everything was fine. I know this guy as well (her friend) and this was during a time in his life when he was getting into some bad stuff, but he had no idea that anything had happened until she told him a few years later (after he had become a Christian as well)....

I have another story that is a little crazier, involving someone getting physically assulted, but I don't know that person personally, it is someone my parents know... I may post that later....
 
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DIVISION said:
You should have screamed at the voices and dared them to come closer and show themselves. You should have challenged the ghosts, they were interrupting your sleep.




DIV

another thing. It wasnt like the voices were wispering. It was like they were having a normal conversation. I used "wisper" as a volume indicator. It was like I had earplugs in, or I was at the opposite end of a very large room while the conversation was taking place. I could tell the voices were speaking normally, but it was still too low to hear. Like in the distance, but it sounded like it was originating in the room, if that makes any sense.
 
there are some good stories in here.

I have a lot. Here are a few.

One time one of my buddies from high school was telling me he had this cousin that lived in a haunted house. There was this ghost that looked like an indian... all you could see was its shadow projected on the wall. Weird thing was, the shadow was always on the wrong wall (like if the window put shadows on the wall to your left, the indian shadow would be on the right).... Anyways, it would walk through rooms, and if you accidentally bumped into it, you would get cold. One day his cousin called him up and said she knew something was going to happen to her and she wanted to say she loved everyone (but didn't give him details on what brought her to this conclusion)... About a week later he got word she died in a traffic accident. When they did the investigation, they found that there was no explanation for how her car wrecked (the way the skid marks were and the angle it achieved before it started rolling over)... no other cars were involved and they determined that it was impossible for her to have initiated the particular motion of the car through her own actions either... Weird.


I also have some from my family etc. If anyone wants to hear them, I will tell ya about em.
 
My family actually seems to have some type of sensitivity to this type of thing. My mom when she was a little girl said that the night her grandfather died, he came and talked to her... told her that he had to go and that he wanted to say goodbye. The next morning she woke up to find out he had passed away.


We lived on this one street in when I was in high school and one of the ladies at the end of the street supposedly had a ghost. She lived there alone and never had any kids. Supposedly she would hear a kid crying and sometimes when she went to get laundry out of her washing machine, there would be little baby clothes mixed in (which she did not put in there)... There was this chick that lived down the street who also had experiences on that street (a side note-she was hot as hell, and cool too, she went to model in europe in HS... I wonder what happened to her.. she used to come by my parties when she was in town... I should have hit that, LOL) Anyways.... one afternooon she is at home and her bro tells her he is going to the gym... She says okay and he leaves... She is sitting there watching TV... anyways, she hears on the piano two notes (pretty loud) "ting, ting" she is like "wtf?" calls to see if her bro is home, she can see the piano but no one is in the house... she shuts off the tv, goes in her room and turns on the radio. a little while later, she hears the tv on or something, so she goes in the living room again (and shuts off her radio)... while she is in there looking for anyone and calling for her brother, she hears the piano again "ting, ting!" she shuts off the tv and goes back in her room.... but her radio is on in there! (she shut it off....) she is getting freaked out now, shuts if off and goes back in the living room, where the tv is on again... she shuts it off and hears the piano again!... at this point she is all freaked out, so she goes outside, thinking, hoping her brother is home and messing with her.... she is outside and he is not there.... a few minutes later, he pulls up... and she tells him the whole thing.... My sister and I also noticed some weird things in our house (2-3 doors down from the hot chick)... Sometimes at night you could hear someone running through a room upstairs (not creaks), when we were the only ones home sitting in the leaving room on the main floor. It woudl freak you the fuck out. One night, my sister was sleeping in her room (upstairs).... all of a sudden she woke up in the middle of the night. She was sitting there starring at the ceiling, when all of a suddne her strobe light goes off 3 times (blink blink blink).... She is like "wtf" and gets up. She makes sure it is off and lays back down... Anyways a little while later she wakes up again. She is laying there and blink blink blink, it flashes again 3x.... This time she gets up and unpluggs it and then gets back in bed. She woke up one more time... As she laid there, all of a sudden it WENT OFF AGAIN! She got up in a hurry and turned on the light... It was STILL unplugged... Also, this is weird... My sister was realy artsy and had made this cross thing with a picture of rick james or someone with some bumperstickers.... When she turned on the light it was still tacked to her wall, but it was turned upside down by something.... She ripped it down and put it in a drawer. She used to tell me after I left for college that she would hear something going up and down the stairs that sounded like me (I am pretty big so I have loud steps-also my room was in the basement, so I was up and down the steps alot) - she said it sounded like it was trying to sound like me... it woudl also go in the kitchen and open and close cabinets at night..... she woudl go down and a bunch of them woudl be open... she woudl check everyone and they would all be sleeping....

i have more, but I need a typing break.
 
s w o l e said:
DIV, I feel the same way about spirits. I don't think I am one of those people who can see them; my ex-girlfriend saw them all the time. One time she told me one was in the room but I saw nothing...and she's nowhere near crazy. Whenever I get the feeling someone is in the room I'll call out and ask them what they want...but they never try to make contact.

But maing what happens when one of those fuckers decides it want's to choke you...and you can't fight back?

@s w o l e......yes I agree with you. I think I'm one of those people who can't see ghosts or demons or anything supernatural. I've been several places where you'd think I would see something or experience something, yet No. I have never "called out" to something that wasn't there, I've felt like I've been watched before but that doesn't bother me. If whatever it is doesn't have the balls to come out and challenge me or show itself I really don't care either way. I've pretty much come to the conclusion there are people who can see ghosts/demons/creatures and those who can't.

beefcake28 said:
Some Christians (VERY, VERY FEW!!) can actually see demons sometimes (it is considered a spiritual gift). My moms friend has that ability and has told me about several instances where she would be walking down a street and see someone walking along, and all of a sudden that person would look at her funny and the face of the demon would appear and then gradually the whole body would become more and more visible until she no longer saw the person, but just the demon walking down the street... Then, it would suddenly turn back to the person and keep walking like nothing ever happened. After asking her about it more, she said that what it is she can see is the demons that possess people and are manifested in them... freaky stuff....

My girlfriend saw something freaky once (she is a Christian as well)... She was sitting in a hot tub with a bunch of friends and when she looked at this one guy, his face turned into (as she described it) a big black hole.... She said that his face was there at first and then just turned pitch black, like the deepest black she had ever seen, but it also appeared to have some sort of depth to it... She said that she had an overwhelming sense of evil when this happened and got out of the tub, grabbed a couple of friends (who she knew were Christians as well) and led them into another room. All she said was "We need to pray for (her friend)".... when she went back, everything was fine. I know this guy as well (her friend) and this was during a time in his life when he was getting into some bad stuff, but he had no idea that anything had happened until she told him a few years later (after he had become a Christian as well)....

I've heard versions of this before, beefcake28. I'm not religious but I think there's something to Christians being able to see "demons". It must be awesome to have that gift. By chance can you find out what the demons actually looked like? When they were manifested in people on the street everyday, what did the actual demons appear to resemble? The hottub incident is classic, and I think your friend is right about that guy's future and soul perhaps being a blackhole because of the stage he was at in his life. I think she was right about him having no soul, and that's why he appeared to her as having a pitchblack face if that makes sense.

Becoming said:
One day his cousin called him up and said she knew something was going to happen to her and she wanted to say she loved everyone (but didn't give him details on what brought her to this conclusion)... About a week later he got word she died in a traffic accident. When they did the investigation, they found that there was no explanation for how her car wrecked (the way the skid marks were and the angle it achieved before it started rolling over)... no other cars were involved and they determined that it was impossible for her to have initiated the particular motion of the car through her own actions either...
My family actually seems to have some type of sensitivity to this type of thing. My mom when she was a little girl said that the night her grandfather died, he came and talked to her... told her that he had to go and that he wanted to say goodbye. The next morning she woke up to find out he had passed away.

This phenomenon of forseeing your own death is interesting. I wonder how she knew she'd die? A revelation or something told her? Did she do something that she knew would cost her, her life? I've always wondered how it would be to know of your own impending death, but not be able to do anything about it.





DIV
 
DIVISION said:
@s w o l e......yes I agree with you. I think I'm one of those people who can't see ghosts or demons or anything supernatural. I've been several places where you'd think I would see something or experience something, yet No. I have never "called out" to something that wasn't there, I've felt like I've been watched before but that doesn't bother me. If whatever it is doesn't have the balls to come out and challenge me or show itself I really don't care either way. I've pretty much come to the conclusion there are people who can see ghosts/demons/creatures and those who can't.



I've heard versions of this before, beefcake28. I'm not religious but I think there's something to Christians being able to see "demons". It must be awesome to have that gift. By chance can you find out what the demons actually looked like? When they were manifested in people on the street everyday, what did the actual demons appear to resemble? The hottub incident is classic, and I think your friend is right about that guy's future and soul perhaps being a blackhole because of the stage he was at in his life. I think she was right about him having no soul, and that's why he appeared to her as having a pitchblack face if that makes sense.



This phenomenon of forseeing your own death is interesting. I wonder how she knew she'd die? A revelation or something told her? Did she do something that she knew would cost her, her life? I've always wondered how it would be to know of your own impending death, but not be able to do anything about it.





DIV

My moms friend that can see the demons didn't go into much detail about what they looked like, although she did say that they all look different. The main way she described them was "imagine the most horrible, disqusting, repulsive, evil thing that you have ever seen and you still don't come close to how bad these things look". The only specifics I remember was that she said one of them had a body similar to a snake, but moved in a fairly upright position. Again, she did say that they all don't really look alike.... She doesn't really like to talk about it at all or else I would have found out more details... This is stuff I am VERY interested in and have actually read quite a bit about...

Now, a story about someone getting assulted by a demon... This was a friend of my parents, and I didn't hear it firsthand, so I dont know all the details... my parents are the ones that told it to me. The friend was a woman and was just getting home. I believe that it was a house that they had just purchased a little while before this happened. As she walked into the house, she stepped into the house and shut the door. Right after she shut the door, a pair of hands grabbed her by the throat and lifted her off the ground, a couple of feet into the air. She said that the hands were crushing her throat so tightly that she couldn't breath. She also said that she looked around and couldn't see anything there, but obviously something didn't want her there. She tried to scream, but couldn't even breath, much less make any kind of noise... So, she is a foot or two off the ground, struggling to get free and panicing because she can't breath. She said that the grip was so tight and whatever it was holding her could not be be stopped by anything human.... it was just immeasurably strong. She was swing her arms, trying to punch it and kick it... she could literally feel the hands on her when she tried to pry them off of her neck.

(I am gonna explain the religious background of this for those who don't know very much about this sort of thing... She is a Christian as well... As all true Christians believe, the ONLY thing that has true authority over satan and demons is Jesus Christ... and being a born again Christian means that we are given that authority through the name of Jesus Christ... Sorry to have to explain this in the middle of the story, but I think that it will help people who don't know about this understand the story better.)

All she could do was to start praying in her head... She just kept thinking "God, help me.. God, help me" over and over. It was only after this that she was able to whisper a faint sound and simply said "Jesus". As soon as she said that, she fell to the ground and whatever it was that was choking her and holding her up was gone. It never came back...

As far as ghosts, I have heard so many stories and experience enough to know that they are real... I don't know what they are, but I know they aren't demons. Demons are a whole different thing and are not peaceful... I believe that people who aren't Christians will rarely, if ever, encounter a demon, simply because the aren't a threat to satan... Why would satan attack someone who is already doing what he wants them to do (ignoring God)??

I know you say that you would want to call out a demon, but I would think twice after hearing this womans account of what happened to her... All the bravery in the world will not save you or give you any power at all to face something that has powers beyond our comprehesion... just a thought. The last thing I want to do here is sound like I am attacking anyone, I am just commenting on how powerless most humans are regarding the spiritual realm...
 
beefcake28 said:
My moms friend that can see the demons didn't go into much detail about what they looked like, although she did say that they all look different. The main way she described them was "imagine the most horrible, disqusting, repulsive, evil thing that you have ever seen and you still don't come close to how bad these things look". The only specifics I remember was that she said one of them had a body similar to a snake, but moved in a fairly upright position. Again, she did say that they all don't really look alike.... She doesn't really like to talk about it at all or else I would have found out more details... This is stuff I am VERY interested in and have actually read quite a bit about...

Now, a story about someone getting assulted by a demon... This was a friend of my parents, and I didn't hear it firsthand, so I dont know all the details... my parents are the ones that told it to me. The friend was a woman and was just getting home. I believe that it was a house that they had just purchased a little while before this happened. As she walked into the house, she stepped into the house and shut the door. Right after she shut the door, a pair of hands grabbed her by the throat and lifted her off the ground, a couple of feet into the air. She said that the hands were crushing her throat so tightly that she couldn't breath. She also said that she looked around and couldn't see anything there, but obviously something didn't want her there. She tried to scream, but couldn't even breath, much less make any kind of noise... So, she is a foot or two off the ground, struggling to get free and panicing because she can't breath. She said that the grip was so tight and whatever it was holding her could not be be stopped by anything human.... it was just immeasurably strong. She was swing her arms, trying to punch it and kick it... she could literally feel the hands on her when she tried to pry them off of her neck.

(I am gonna explain the religious background of this for those who don't know very much about this sort of thing... She is a Christian as well... As all true Christians believe, the ONLY thing that has true authority over satan and demons is Jesus Christ... and being a born again Christian means that we are given that authority through the name of Jesus Christ... Sorry to have to explain this in the middle of the story, but I think that it will help people who don't know about this understand the story better.)

All she could do was to start praying in her head... She just kept thinking "God, help me.. God, help me" over and over. It was only after this that she was able to whisper a faint sound and simply said "Jesus". As soon as she said that, she fell to the ground and whatever it was that was choking her and holding her up was gone. It never came back...

As far as ghosts, I have heard so many stories and experience enough to know that they are real... I don't know what they are, but I know they aren't demons. Demons are a whole different thing and are not peaceful... I believe that people who aren't Christians will rarely, if ever, encounter a demon, simply because the aren't a threat to satan... Why would satan attack someone who is already doing what he wants them to do (ignoring God)??

I know you say that you would want to call out a demon, but I would think twice after hearing this womans account of what happened to her... All the bravery in the world will not save you or give you any power at all to face something that has powers beyond our comprehesion... just a thought. The last thing I want to do here is sound like I am attacking anyone, I am just commenting on how powerless most humans are regarding the spiritual realm...

BeefcakeButcher........

I still want to call out the demons. I have never seen a demon, ghost, or creature.....I don't think I'm able to, I guess I don't have the gift. I want you to ask your Mom's friend specifically about the demons and what they look like. Tell her DIVISION wants to know and she will oblige, trust me.

I want to know what the demons look like how they influence human behaviour.



DIV
 
DIVISION said:
BeefcakeButcher........

I still want to call out the demons. I have never seen a demon, ghost, or creature.....I don't think I'm able to, I guess I don't have the gift. I want you to ask your Mom's friend specifically about the demons and what they look like. Tell her DIVISION wants to know and she will oblige, trust me.

I want to know what the demons look like how they influence human behaviour.



DIV

I replied to your PM....
 
Ever notice that most people that see ghosts and what not did a shit load of drugs in their younger days!?!? :chomp:
 
Here's my story between sets in the garage. I've never seen a demon or a spirit, but my ex wife claims to have gotten an eerie feeling when we moved into our old house. I, being agnostic at the time, laughed at her. She said she could feel an evil presence in the house. I don't doubt her too much now. Greg Knighten lived in the house. Look him up on the internet. He was into Satan worshiping. Weird things did happen there. I'll be back.
 
Now I remember something else. I've told this story before. I may have seen Satan himself or one of his demons one night. I'm not sure if I was awake or in an altered state of conscious. I was jolted awake one night (this was early in my marriage about 13 years ago) and I could see the room exactly as it looked, and sitting in front of the door in old wicker chair that we use to have in our kitchen, was my deceased granny. Only it wasn't her. It was the demon. I saw the coal black eyes and a look of evil beyond description and I heard a voice say, "Bradley, I'm gonna barbecue you full of holes, forerver... forever Bradley." I was scared and angry both. I shouted out, "You're not my granny!!!" THen it disappeared and I woke my ex wife up to tell her what happened.
 
Why don't any incounters happen in day light or in public?
They're almost always at night and in solitude.
Why do all of the hear-say stories come from women?
Why do they all seem to mirror classic hollywood creations?
Why is there never proof? I mean these people that had regular incounters never capture something on film or video?

Just something to think about. I mean, honestly I would like to think there is more of a real possibility of such things. It's exciting and human nature to WANT to believe. But unfortunately it's most LIKELY not. The mind plays amazing tricks on us.
 
deltreefitness said:
Why don't any incounters happen in day light or in public?
They're almost always at night and in solitude.
Why do all of the hear-say stories come from women?
Why do they all seem to mirror classic hollywood creations?
Why is there never proof? I mean these people that had regular incounters never capture something on film or video?

Just something to think about. I mean, honestly I would like to think there is more of a real possibility of such things. It's exciting and human nature to WANT to believe. But unfortunately it's most LIKELY not. The mind plays amazing tricks on us.

Think of it another way. God or Satan will not let it be that obvious.
 
biteme said:
Now I remember something else. I've told this story before. I may have seen Satan himself or one of his demons one night. I'm not sure if I was awake or in an altered state of conscious. I was jolted awake one night (this was early in my marriage about 13 years ago) and I could see the room exactly as it looked, and sitting in front of the door in old wicker chair that we use to have in our kitchen, was my deceased granny. Only it wasn't her. It was the demon. I saw the coal black eyes and a look of evil beyond description and I heard a voice say, "Bradley, I'm gonna barbecue you full of holes, forerver... forever Bradley." I was scared and angry both. I shouted out, "You're not my granny!!!" THen it disappeared and I woke my ex wife up to tell her what happened.
like I siad get the book
 
Excellent thread. I love hearing all the stories. This kind of stuff has always interested me. I have seen some playful ghost but that is it. I have herd many stories similar to many of the above post from credible people.

Luckily it’s very rare to have an entity so powerful to physically harm you. I do feel ones that are this powerful are demons most of the time.

I definitely believe in GOD/Allah/higher being or whatever you want to call it. I feel it is a very loving being and yes there is a ton of evil here on earth that we will not be able to understand while we are here. Our energy level here on Earth is low.

Keep the stories coming? One of these days when I get some time I will build another paranormal web site.

I have been bringing this stuff up at work since I have been reading about it again and most laugh and joke but some have some good stories they are willing to share. One guy says late at night sometimes when he drives home a guy floating on air runs beside his car in a certain spot looking at him while he is driving. lol That would freak me the fuck out. I would probably wreck. Many people are starting to see UFO's spotted on the back side of Seneca Lake here Ohio also HUck. lol Weird shit. For some reason that place is a hot spot many times. Its way out in the sticks by one of the largest lake in Ohio.

Buddy of mine has a summer cabin by the lake we go and drink at a few times in the summer and sit around a fire check out the sky. Never seen anything yet but though.
 
deltreefitness said:
biteme, since I've been away you've become a curling clone. :worried:

Was Curling the only Christian on the board? I think not.
 
I'm sorry but all of these stories are pure cliche. At night, alone, or in deep in the woods? Come on guys. I want to hear about one that happened broad daylight with many witnesses, that includes non-related male and female.
 
deltreefitness said:
No but definitely one of the most evangelical.

You got me there. ;) I knew if I came back to God, I would do it with passion. It's my nature. To me, it's the only thing that really matters.
 
YESM. I agree. He put me back on track this past year. I would not listen and ignored him but my roll was important so he nailed me hard to wake me up. I am back on track now.
 
KA-BAR said:
YESM. I agree. He put me back on track this past year. I would not listen and ignored him but my roll was important so he nailed me hard to wake me up. I am back on track now.
thanks for the k bro.sayin prayer for ya tonight
 
deltreefitness said:
Why don't any incounters happen in day light or in public?
They're almost always at night and in solitude.
Why do all of the hear-say stories come from women?
Why do they all seem to mirror classic hollywood creations?
Why is there never proof? I mean these people that had regular incounters never capture something on film or video?

Just something to think about. I mean, honestly I would like to think there is more of a real possibility of such things. It's exciting and human nature to WANT to believe. But unfortunately it's most LIKELY not. The mind plays amazing tricks on us.

The story about the lady that got assulted happened in daytime... as did the person I know who can see the demons, that actually happened on the street, in public, during the daytime.

The things that I experienced didn't happen to a woman...

I have a couple more stories from my brother as well, so they don't always happen to women...
 
beefcake28 said:
I never did any drugs...

Me, neither.

biteme said:
Now I remember something else. I've told this story before. I may have seen Satan himself or one of his demons one night. I'm not sure if I was awake or in an altered state of conscious. I was jolted awake one night (this was early in my marriage about 13 years ago) and I could see the room exactly as it looked, and sitting in front of the door in old wicker chair that we use to have in our kitchen, was my deceased granny. Only it wasn't her. It was the demon. I saw the coal black eyes and a look of evil beyond description and I heard a voice say, "Bradley, I'm gonna barbecue you full of holes, forerver... forever Bradley." I was scared and angry both. I shouted out, "You're not my granny!!!" THen it disappeared and I woke my ex wife up to tell her what happened.

Brad, are you sure you were actually awake or was it all a nightmare? You would know, it shouldn't be unclear as to whether it was a cognizant experience or not. Brad, what else do you remember about the "demon"? Besides the black eyes, what else made you sure it wasn't your deceased grandmother? Was it her voice that threatened to "barbeque you full of holes forever" or another voice? Was she rocking back and forth? Why didn't you get out of bed and confront her? You should have tried to touch her. What did you ex-wife say when you woke her up? Is this something that haunts you 'till this day?

deltreefitness said:
biteme, since I've been away you've become a curling clone. :worried:

Furrydeltree....since you've been away biteme has been reborn, ressurected as one of God's children. The Brad we knew is no more. All that remains is a child of God with the heart to save a whole nation. Henceforth, everything he does is God's will.





DIV
 
i've got one too though it's not nearly as bad as some of the others.

i was sitting in my bro's room playing games on the commodore 64 (damn that thing was the shizzle btw, but anyway) when it suddenly sounded like a train was coming (didn't someone else in this thread describe someting similar?) through our neighbourhood (we live near the railroad), so i thought nothing of it. only it stopped very sudden, but i didn't hear any brakes or anything so i was like "wtf?"

just seconds after that, i hear a real loud laughter coming from my parents' room. (everyone was downstairs at the moment so i knew no one was there) REAL loud, and not the funny kind, but the evil, maniacal kind. i was scared shitless and BOLTED the fuck downstairs. everyone was like wtf is wrong with you idiot?
i said, 'didn't you guys hear that just now?' (it was real loud, almost deafening and our house is real small so someone must've heard something, or so i thought). but they didn't, they didn't hear a damn thing. i still remember that very vividly.
this was during broad daylight as well.
 
SAGAT said:
i hear a real loud laughter coming from my parents' room. REAL loud, and not the funny kind, but the evil, maniacal kind.

Please describe the maniacal laughter. Was it a man, woman, creature?

Did it sound like they were laughing at you? Why didn't you go in to your parent's bedroom to see who it was? Is this the only time you've experienced this?




DIV
 
ok i've got another one only i don't remember this one as vividly as the other story.

one time when i was a kid this other kid said we should call out a ghost or something. he said he had done this before and that we should do it cause it was cool an' all.
this was a weird kid, the attention seeking kind so my initial thought was for him to go fuck himself.
however i was curious so i decided to go for it.
we went to this alley real close to our house and he whispered some random (seemingly) incantations while closing his eyes and told me to do the same.
so i did and after a few seconds i saw a figure way in the back of the alley looking what i can only describe as a 'demonic zorro-like...something' it was pitch black but certain features were distinguisable, like the hat he was wearing, his eyes and he looked as though he was wearing a cape but i could tell it wasn't a cape somehow.
he was running real slow, like in slow motion, then he turned his head and looked at us. after that he was gone.
i thought it was just my imagination but after some years i told my mom and she said she had saw the same figure years ago standing next to her in the kitchen, before i was born. i described it partly and she described the rest to a tee without ever having heard this story from me. it was exactly the same figure. she said she looked it up after she saw it (she was freaked the fuck out of course lol) and this figure would only show itself 'in times of sorrow'.

months after i saw the thing i got hit by a car, real hard. coincidence? i don't know. i may be the biggest atheist alive and i saw this thing. i saw it in broad daylight too btw. (for the poster that said he wanted stories about these things in broad daylight etc etc)
 
DIVISION said:
Please describe the maniacal laughter. Was it a man, woman, creature?

Did it sound like they were laughing at you? Why didn't you go in to your parent's bedroom to see who it was? Is this the only time you've experienced this?




DIV
i was a high pitched noise but i was definitely a man. it DID sound like they were laughing at me. the reason i didn't go to my parents bedroom to look was that i was scared beyond belief. i had always been scared to go upstairs alone (i don't know why btw) so when i heard this i just threw the joystick on the floor and jumped down the stairs (my parents' bedroom and the stairs are about one feet apart so when you have to go down the stairs, your back is turned on my parents' bedroom...i could definitely feel something was there)
this had been the only time i experienced this. this was 14 years ago.
 
SAGAT said:
i was a high pitched noise but i was definitely a man. it DID sound like they were laughing at me. the reason i didn't go to my parents bedroom to look was that i was scared beyond belief. i had always been scared to go upstairs alone (i don't know why btw) so when i heard this i just threw the joystick on the floor and jumped down the stairs (my parents' bedroom and the stairs are about one feet apart so when you have to go down the stairs, your back is turned on my parents' bedroom...i could definitely feel something was there)
this had been the only time i experienced this. this was 14 years ago.

Did it sounds like one man or two men laughing at you? Was it like a cackling or a true laugh? I don't understand the significance between the train and the laughing......doesn't make sense.





DIV
 
s w o l e said:
DIV, I feel the same way about spirits. I don't think I am one of those people who can see them; my ex-girlfriend saw them all the time. One time she told me one was in the room but I saw nothing...and she's nowhere near crazy. Whenever I get the feeling someone is in the room I'll call out and ask them what they want...but they never try to make contact.

But maing what happens when one of those fuckers decides it want's to choke you...and you can't fight back?


Do you believe your girlfriend was telling the truth about seeing spirits?~~~

Why would some see them and not others?~~~
 
SAGAT said:
after some years i told my mom and she said she had saw the same figure years ago standing next to her in the kitchen, before i was born. i described it partly and she described the rest to a tee without ever having heard this story from me. it was exactly the same figure. she said she looked it up after she saw it (she was freaked the fuck out of course lol) and this figure would only show itself 'in times of sorrow'.

Where did your mom "look it up" at? What was the ghost? How did she describe it? Is it human? Did it talk to her in the kitchen? So it was a black zorro of sorts? What times of sorrow happened around the time she saw it in the kitchen?

Please answer, Mr. SAGAT.




DIV
 
DIVISION said:
Did it sounds like one man or two men laughing at you? Was it like a cackling or a true laugh? I don't understand the significance between the train and the laughing......doesn't make sense.





DIV
it was def. one man, and definitely a cackling (couldn't find the right word for it) i don't understand the significance between the train and the laughing either until someone in this thread described a sensation of a plane flying over or a train passing by while none of these things were around. maybe they had something to do with one another i don't know.
 
DIVISION said:
Where did your mom "look it up" at? What was the ghost? How did she describe it? Is it human? Did it talk to her in the kitchen? So it was a black zorro of sorts? What times of sorrow happened around the time she saw it in the kitchen?

Please answer, Mr. SAGAT.




DIV
i would have to ask her where she looked it up, will do that asap.
the ghost was exactly the same as i described it to her. black zorro type, caped (seemingly) tall dude, black but distinguishable eyes, wearing a hat, human in appearance (it did not look evil or scary). it did not talk to her in the kitchen (to my knowledge) and i don't remember her mentioning any sorrow after that aside from her being pregnant with me lol.
 
SAGAT said:
it was def. one man, and definitely a cackling (couldn't find the right word for it) i don't understand the significance between the train and the laughing either until someone in this thread described a sensation of a plane flying over or a train passing by while none of these things were around. maybe they had something to do with one another i don't know.

I still think you should have gone in your parent's room and confronted the cackling old man. You would at least know whether it was a ghost/demon whatever....Is it something that haunts you to this day? Maybe not the situation, but the feeling when you heard the loud cackling?



DIV
 
DIVISION said:
This phenomenon of forseeing your own death is interesting. I wonder how she knew she'd die? A revelation or something told her? Did she do something that she knew would cost her, her life? I've always wondered how it would be to know of your own impending death, but not be able to do anything about it.
I don't know much about this but either did my friend. Apparently his cousin did not want to give him any details about how she arrived at this information. I don't think she felt like she did anything from what I remember, more that someone or something told her she woudl be leaving shortly. Remember too, that the accident was unexplainable. The investigators say it wasn't physically possible for her to have caused it and there was no discernable reason for it.




I have another story... similar to the "man in black" ones mentioned here by SAGAT and someone else.... I have a cousin who is about my age who was visited by something like this quite a bit in his younger years. (Like age 3-4?)... The thing would come to him at night and talk to him about all kinds of bad things that would happen, basically tell him about things or "show" him images/scenes. Basically similar description. Tall man in black, hat, like a giant shadow. About people dying, people being killed, and people being hung on the property they lived on etc (they lived out in the country kind of). The thing that made it weird is that the kid would tell the parents what the thing had told him and they would be like "where did my kid hear of beheadings and hangings etc - he is too young for school and doesn't see stuff like that in movies and TV" Anyways, as time went on, his "visits" got more and more upsetting to him.... They said they couldn't take him in a church or anything because eh would scream and fight etc.... He couldn't sleep at all and was always telling more and more gruesome stories that he was hearing from this thing. Eventually the mom got a cross and put it up in the room and prayed one night all night long for the thing to be sent away and to leave her son alone, and after that night it finally stopped.

What is weird is he was telling me that he doesn't remember anything really from that time period. He remembers suprisingly (cause he was pretty young) many things from before and after this period (like he remembers quite a few specific events and scences from where they lived before this, and remembers living in the house after this time period) but nothing of the first year or two that they lived in that house where this occured.

He has or has had some psychic happening besides this... They are less and vary rare if still existent now, but he used to have quite a few when he was younger. For instance there were some times where he would "see" things as if they were happening... Or could "see" things he could not see and know where they are.... Like on time he "saw" the police chase a guy to his doorstep and beat the guy almost to death... turns out that it did happen (I don't know if it was the exact TIME he "saw" it though or if he "saw" it after it happened...) But he told his parents about it, and they did not know how he knew that this event occured because he had no way of knowing. But it did occur. Also, he could "see" things up on shelves etc, that he did not know were there. He also told me that there have been times where he could see/hear things in other places - like one time in college, he "heard" a conversation his girlfriend was having on the phone... but he was just laying in his room, dozing off/waking up several blocks away.... (he was not on the phone with her)



Anyone know the significance of this recurrent "man in black" character?
 
Here is another good one...

One time in HS... Me and my buddies were driving around late (about midnight or so) there wasn't anything going on so we just decided to drive around out in the boondocks (so we hadn't been drinking or anything)... Anyways, we were way out in this one area that was kind of creepy... sometimes we used to go out there to drink, but it was kind of creepy, and there were rumors of people that would chase and or shoot at you if they came across you out there...

So we are out there driving, it was foggy as hell that night too, when all of a sudden my tape player goes out in the car... it still had power it seemed, just wouldn't play, and we couldn't get it to come on again. We did'nt thing anything of it... We are driving down this long deserted road now.... There is this place where there is a steep enbankment on both sides, with dense trees/forest for at least 2-3 miles.... well halfway through, we see this old ass man faintly in the distance, through the fog, and it looked like he was walking or jogging along the road in the other direction.... problem is, the dude looks strange, no shirt, and looks like seriously 90-100, and then the dude puts a hand up (like a wave without waving).... we are like WTF? so I gun the car down to the bottom of that part of the road, turn around and we haul ass back.... but the old dude is no where to be found... We seached the area a couple more times, but he is no where... and because of the enbankment etc, he couldn't have went anywyere either (there were no houses etc in the area) no idea where a person could have come from or went to in that short amount of time....

anyways, we are all creeped out, so we head out of there... as our car passes this old church, all of a sudden the tape player comes right on again... playing this part of the tape "faith no more-angel dust" that sounds like church organs!

weird.
 
Becoming said:
Anyone know the significance of this recurrent "man in black" character?

I'm not familiar with the man in black your describing, but it does coincide with the stuff described in 'The Demonoligist'. This book stresses the importance in faith in dealing with this phenomenon. Which explains the impact of the boy's mother's prayers.
 
bigbair said:
I'm not familiar with the man in black your describing, but it does coincide with the stuff described in 'The Demonoligist'. This book stresses the importance in faith in dealing with this phenomenon. Which explains the impact of the boy's mother's prayers.

What does it say about "man in black" in general? I will look up the book.
 
Becoming said:
What does it say about "man in black" in general? I will look up the book.


There is no specific reference to the man in black that I'm aware of, only the form that demons sometimes take (human).
 
Becoming said:
I have another story... similar to the "man in black" ones mentioned here by SAGAT and someone else.... I have a cousin who is about my age who was visited by something like this quite a bit in his younger years. (Like age 3-4?)... The thing would come to him at night and talk to him about all kinds of bad things that would happen, basically tell him about things or "show" him images/scenes. Basically similar description. Tall man in black, hat, like a giant shadow. About people dying, people being killed, and people being hung on the property they lived on etc (they lived out in the country kind of). The thing that made it weird is that the kid would tell the parents what the thing had told him and they would be like "where did my kid hear of beheadings and hangings etc - he is too young for school and doesn't see stuff like that in movies and TV" Anyways, as time went on, his "visits" got more and more upsetting to him.... They said they couldn't take him in a church or anything because eh would scream and fight etc.... He couldn't sleep at all and was always telling more and more gruesome stories that he was hearing from this thing. Eventually the mom got a cross and put it up in the room and prayed one night all night long for the thing to be sent away and to leave her son alone, and after that night it finally stopped.

It sounds to me like a demon trying to manifest itself in human form, influencing the child.....perhaps trying to possess the child or alter the child's perception. The "blocking out" of that timeframe when all these things took place is a defense mechanims very similiar to PTSD. I think the they put him through hypnosis he would be able to recount in startling detail exactly what the demon said to him. Then you could compare what the demon told him to what reality was and see if any of it was true.

The man in black is a demon.





DIV
 
this is probably kinda a dumb question but how come during the day, even if im all alone with no music, tv, etc playing, i never hear creaking noises or anything at all (even the furnace) but it seems like at night time theres frequently strange noises (never anything distinguishable like talking or stuff moving or walking...) just creeks and furnace rattling and stuff
 
sigweed said:
this is probably kinda a dumb question but how come during the day, even if im all alone with no music, tv, etc playing, i never hear creaking noises or anything at all (even the furnace) but it seems like at night time theres frequently strange noises (never anything distinguishable like talking or stuff moving or walking...) just creeks and furnace rattling and stuff

I don't know siggie......I think you just one of those kids who isn't "gifted" enough to see the demons.

I've never experienced anything that can even come close to being described as supernatural.



DIV
 
sigweed said:
this is probably kinda a dumb question but how come during the day, even if im all alone with no music, tv, etc playing, i never hear creaking noises or anything at all (even the furnace) but it seems like at night time theres frequently strange noises (never anything distinguishable like talking or stuff moving or walking...) just creeks and furnace rattling and stuff

everyone knows ghosts only come out at night!

:locked:
 
I have a remotely-supernatural story.

Me and my boys were paintballing in the woods around these old, torn down brick buildings. I was laying prone on a ledge about 30 feet above some jagged rocks. Someone spotted me and sent a good number of paintballs my way. I panicked, rolled over and fell...at this point I'm planning to live the rest of my life without the use of my legs or hoping my coma doesn't last too long. The exact moment my body touched those rocks, an image of my dead uncle popped into my head and I felt as if I was gently cradled and placed on the rocks.

My uncle died a year after my mom, aunts and grandparents came to America from Italy...he was 18 when he passed. I was born way after he died so I only know what he looked like from pictures.

Anyways my boy shouts a few "holy shit!!" and comes running down the hill to where I should have been injured. He was just amazed how I wasn't hurt. Not as extreme as the other stories shared, but enough to make me think someone is watching.
 
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DIVISION said:
I still think you should have gone in your parent's room and confronted the cackling old man. You would at least know whether it was a ghost/demon whatever....Is it something that haunts you to this day? Maybe not the situation, but the feeling when you heard the loud cackling?



DIV
well ya know i was only about 7 years old or something back then, i mean i was petrified bro. it's not really something that haunts me, i just get the creeps sometimes when i hear a training passing by and stop suddenly.
it's weird because i remember it VERY clearly, i even remember which game i was playing on the C64 and everything.
 
SAGAT said:
well ya know i was only about 7 years old or something back then, i mean i was petrified bro. it's not really something that haunts me, i just get the creeps sometimes when i hear a training passing by and stop suddenly.
it's weird because i remember it VERY clearly, i even remember which game i was playing on the C64 and everything.

Too bad you can't go back and relive it.......that would be something..... :worried:




DIV
 
I have a couple more stories, but these are from my brother, and not like the ones that have already been told. They are different in a way that he wasn't threatened by them at all, but actually calmed by them...

They both happened when we were youger, I was probably 14 or 15 and my brother was about 11 or 12 years old. I am the oldest and I only have one younger brother as far as siblings... Anyway, we were sleeping in the basement on cots because it was the middle of summer and my parents didn't have air conditioning in their house. It was HOT, so we would sleep in the basement to keep cooler... Anyway, he woke up one night and standing next to his cot was something that was dressed in an all white robe. It was bending over and looking into his face, maybe a foot or two away from his face. When it noticed that my brother had woken up, it stood up straight and just "drifted" off into the darkness of our basement, since there were no lights on anywhere.

The second time was when my brother was sleeping in his bedroom and he woke up and looked over. He said that he felt an "unbelieveably calming feeling" come over him, like something was telling him not to be scared....
Anyway, when he looked over, he saw the same white figure standing in his room, looking into a birdcage that was about eye level on a bookshelf. It was just standing there for a minute, and my brother asked it "what do you want??"... It turned its head, and smiled at him for a second or two and then slowly disappeared... This was in the morning, when it was daylight in his room...

NOW, here is the strange thing.... When I asked him what it looked like, he told me that both times it had a white robe on, and when I asked him what its face looked like, he simply said that it had MY face on it... He said it looked identical to ME....

To this day, I still don't know the explination for it, but it seems to have been an angel, not a demon... I think this because it was dressed in all white and second, both tims he felt a feeling of calmness and serenity from this thing that could not be explained... a demon certainly would not give off that kind of feeling....
 
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I agree. I have watched similar things like this on TV and read about them many times. The demon will just try to take control of the child and get him to do whatever it wants him to do or after they become close enought the demon could actually take possestion of the child at times.

DIVISION said:
It sounds to me like a demon trying to manifest itself in human form, influencing the child.....perhaps trying to possess the child or alter the child's perception. The "blocking out" of that timeframe when all these things took place is a defense mechanims very similiar to PTSD. I think the they put him through hypnosis he would be able to recount in startling detail exactly what the demon said to him. Then you could compare what the demon told him to what reality was and see if any of it was true.

The man in black is a demon.





DIV
 
KA-BAR said:
I agree. I have watched similar things like this on TV and read about them many times. The demon will just try to take control of the child and get him to do whatever it wants him to do or after they become close enought the demon could actually take possestion of the child at times.

That's gotta be some traumatic shit, to be that age and have a demon invade your consciousness....No wonder why the child represses the memories.....some things are too painful and traumatic for even the strongest person, let alone a kid.




DIV
 
DIVISION said:
That's gotta be some traumatic shit, to be that age and have a demon invade your consciousness....No wonder why the child represses the memories.....some things are too painful and traumatic for even the strongest person, let alone a kid.




DIV
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Has anyone here ever read the book "This Present Darkness" or "Piercing the Darkness" by Frank Peretti?? These are both books that are fiction, but are all about the spiritual realm and just how much we are influenced by it... I have read both of them and they really put into perspective just how much goes on in spiritual warfare without us even knowing about it... Absolutley amazing books for anyone interested in this stuff, I would highly reccommend them...
 
needtogetas said:
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Dude......don't get me started.

The more I look at your wife's pic the more I want to pound her.....

I wish I'd never seen her.....




DIV
 
beefcake28 said:
I have a couple more stories, but these are from my brother, and not like the ones that have already been told. They are different in a way that he wasn't threatened by them at all, but actually calmed by them...

They both happened when we were youger, I was probably 14 or 15 and my brother was about 11 or 12 years old. I am the oldest and I only have one younger brother as far as siblings... Anyway, we were sleeping in the basement on cots because it was the middle of summer and my parents didn't have air conditioning in their house. It was HOT, so we would sleep in the basement to keep cooler... Anyway, he woke up one night and standing next to his cot was something that was dressed in an all white robe. It was bending over and looking into his face, maybe a foot or two away from his face. When it noticed that my brother had woken up, it stood up straight and just "drifted" off into the darkness of our basement, since there were no lights on anywhere.

The second time was when my brother was sleeping in his bedroom and he woke up and looked over. He said that he felt an "unbelieveably calming feeling" come over him, like something was telling him not to be scared....
Anyway, when he looked over, he saw the same white figure standing in his room, looking into a birdcage that was about eye level on a bookshelf. It was just standing there for a minute, and my brother asked it "what do you want??"... It turned its head, and smiled at him for a second or two and then slowly disappeared... This was in the morning, when it was daylight in his room...

NOW, here is the strange thing.... When I asked him what it looked like, he told me that both times it had a white robe on, and when I asked him what its face looked like, he simply said that it had MY face on it... He said it looked identical to ME....

To this day, I still don't know the explination for it, but it seems to have been an angel, not a demon... I think this because it was dressed in all white and second, both tims he felt a feeling of calmness and serenity from this thing that could not be explained... a demon certainly would not give off that kind of feeling....

My friend said that his father saw a man in a white robe right as he was being wheeled into the room to have open heart surgery. The man supposedly said, "It's going to be alright Charles." And then he vanished. I thought it was probably a Dr. in a robe, but he says that it was the Lord or an angel. DOes anyone know about this kind of thing that I'm about to tell?? Once I woke up and I know that I was awake, not sure if I had been dreaming or not. Anyway my eyes were barely open and in front of me, as if I was watching it on a huge projector screen, I saw a man dressed in all white and walking through a desert. He reached down to pick up a stone from a pile of rocks and then the vision vanished. I still wonder to this day about that.
 
KA-BAR said:
I agree. I have watched similar things like this on TV and read about them many times. The demon will just try to take control of the child and get him to do whatever it wants him to do or after they become close enought the demon could actually take possestion of the child at times.

more info or insight into my story woudl be awesome if anyone has any. if not, that is cool too. i checked the nearby libraries for records of that demonologist book but none had it. sucks.

karma to swole (spread it around) and beefcake for "good" ghost stories. those are sweet to hear too.
 
DIVISION said:
When revelation begins I will be on top of a mountain top waiting for the beast......

When the beast comes It will try to overtake me, but I will never go down without a fight.

If Satan comes I'll be there to take him head on....when God turns out the lights, I'll be there in the dark, thuggin' eternal through my heart.....

Hail Mary...







DIV

not me im staying on the bottom of the mountain top.


hello everyone, im sponge and i believe in ghost. ive felt them many times. the house i just moved in, the elderly lady died in our bedroom. and ive already experienced minor things since moving in. :teleport:
 
KA-BAR said:
OK bob. Lets hear it. lol

well, i know this sounds silly. but its definitely a feeling i cant fully explain. but ive always felt a presence at times. thats all i can say about that.

as far as actual physical activities, just shit that would always happen. something moving in the other room. this place were in now. the door unlocked itself one morning when i came home from nightshift. 6am, i walk up to the back door. two locks to unlock. the knob and the deadbolt. my usual routine, i unlock the knob first. as im starting to put the key in the deadbolt i hear it unlock. i shit you not. two thoughts went thru my head, one im nervous because although she is usually up at that time getting ready for work she is usually in the master bath. second thought is maybe just maybe when i open the door my wife or daughter will be on the other side. in the back of my mind i knew there wouldnt be. and there wasnt.

she always locks both locks when i work nights. yea she may have forgot but that doesnt explain physically hearing it unlock.

the tv in the living room will turn off and on repeatedly in the middle of the night. never did this at my other house.

plenty of other shit.

i believe and im not scared either, never have been.
 
lol Yea that’s shit is pretty common IMO. It will scare the living shit out of you at first but you get used to it and I feel the ghost or ghosts in my house have given up on us once we started ignoring them. Like still like to play with lights. They mess with them and I swear I go through more light bulbs than anyone. Had electricians come here and check shit out and tell me everything is fine. lol I know what it is. Ghost do not scare me it’s the demon shit that freaks me out.
 
I have an idea. Put a camcorder in a hidden place and record all of this phenomena. Do you think the spooks will sense that the camera is there?
 
KA-BAR said:
lol Yea that’s shit is pretty common IMO. It will scare the living shit out of you at first but you get used to it and I feel the ghost or ghosts in my house have given up on us once we started ignoring them. Like still like to play with lights. They mess with them and I swear I go through more light bulbs than anyone. Had electricians come here and check shit out and tell me everything is fine. lol I know what it is. Ghost do not scare me it’s the demon shit that freaks me out.

well ive never encountered demons i guess, because eveytime something happens im not scared at all. ive accepted it long ago.
 
biteme said:
I have an idea. Put a camcorder in a hidden place and record all of this phenomena. Do you think the spooks will sense that the camera is there?

lol. i dont need a camcorder. why would i do that?
 
after reading this thread i will make two statements.

DIV is writing a book.

DIV is trying to get his post count up.
 
spongebob said:
lol. i dont need a camcorder. why would i do that?

So you can see that little gremlin that's unlocking your door and turning off your t.v. I think you are afraid of what you might see. :evil:
 
biteme said:
So you can see that little gremlin that's unlocking your door and turning off your t.v. I think you are afraid of what you might see. :evil:

i could care less. ive already stated such. i am far more observant than a camcorder anyways.
 
what a coincidence, my tv is repeatedly turning itself off and back on in the other room. so i went in there to settle in on the couch to watch the ring and it hasnt done it.
 
spongebob said:
what a coincidence, my tv is repeatedly turning itself off and back on in the other room. so i went in there to settle in on the couch to watch the ring and it hasnt done it.

Some things are not coincidences. Believe me I know without a doubt. Seek the one and only and you will see. In your case, I think that little gremlin is playing with your remote control.
 
biteme said:
Some things are not coincidences. Believe me I know without a doubt. Seek the one and only and you will see. In your case, I think that little gremlin is playing with your remote control.

everything can be doubted except the doubter.

ghost, gremlin...whats it matter, just variables right?

your post will never be able to explain away the prensence though, no matter how much you believe. besides, wouldnt logic tell us that if there is an all poweful god, it exist in some sort of spiritual form, so why would you not believe in a spirit form here on earth?
 
I have thought about it but i am kind of scared that something might show up on the digital camcorder. I do have some nice pics of the old masion I used to have. You can see the shap and everything. Pretty spooky. House was built in 1870's! One of the first houses build in this area.

I also have some good ectoplasm pics of this house as well. I need to go find them and post them on here. At one time wife could not even ebay without getting pictures without the ectoplasm shit.

biteme said:
I have an idea. Put a camcorder in a hidden place and record all of this phenomena. Do you think the spooks will sense that the camera is there?
 
spongebob said:
everything can be doubted except the doubter.

ghost, gremlin...whats it matter, just variables right?

your post will never be able to explain away the prensence though, no matter how much you believe. besides, wouldnt logic tell us that if there is an all poweful god, it exist in some sort of spiritual form, so why would you not believe in a spirit form here on earth?

If it's real, it's real. I know all about that. Noone can ever explain away the things that I have witnessed because they were from God. Spirit form here on Earth? Maybe, I don't know. Logic should tell people that there is a God, but some people don't use good logic. We came from carbon chains, etc, etc, etc. Can't see the forest for the trees.
 
IMO there is no such thing as coincidences.

biteme said:
Some things are not coincidences. Believe me I know without a doubt. Seek the one and only and you will see. In your case, I think that little gremlin is playing with your remote control.
 
KA-BAR said:
IMO there is no such thing as coincidences.

I know your story brother. Amazing isn't he?
 
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