being GAY.

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I haven't heard someone refer to AIDs as a Gay Disease since 1985. Well accept for places like EF.

It's a misnomer and a bit of a hoax.

It's not unlike proclaiming the Rock is an actor.

 

[gymtime]

*munching popcorn* And to think I almost watched Will and Grace tonight.

 

[smallmovesal]

warik, why don't you go do the "i'm smarter than all of you" dance somewhere else? your act is totally tired.

 

[wyst]

Re: Re: Re: Re: being GAY.

Blah blah blah waahhhh. I was responding to his "in short" comment which claims that homosexuals have more "reason" of some sort to commit suicide than other people. That is obvious bullshit. There is no reason for anyone to commit suicide - once people, people like Ryan's friend, realize this, there will be much fewer suicides. "I'm gay and nobody likes me" is not a reason to terminate one's life - the most precious gift.

-Warik

Obviously there's no *good* reason to commit suicide. But people who lose hope lose the ability to see that. And people who come from backgrounds that are cut off from the mainstream by the fear of facing ignorant bigots like yourself are more likely to find themselves in a position of no hope.

And yes, I feel the same empathy for poor people, single parents, handicapped people, or any other group more likely to find themselves so depressed that they are driven to this state. Not just gay people.

The reason I am so pissed off is that a key point of this thread is that the whole damned question was basically how can we reach these people and help them not to lose hope so they won't squander that precious gift. As someone who has faced this problem personally, I can tell you, it's *your* attitude that is the biggest single challenge to saving this particular group of people.

Wyst

 

[starfish]

AIDS is far from a gay disease. The fact that it is higher in other countries is no excuse to ignore it either.. That is ignorant.

I know a man who is one of 35 scientists developing the AIDS vaccine etc. and I can assure you that it is EVERYONES responsibility.

 

[Warik]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: being GAY.

Weren't you the one who said it was fair to stereotype since stereotypes are based on the truth? And isn't a stereotype a generalizaton to the individual of a collective observation? Didn't you advise growing a thick skin below?

My skin is quite thick. Your prior, and current, insult had no effect on me. I'm simply stating fact that is relevant to this argument, and you are cleverly formulating subtle insults based on what I said. If you had not noticed, that accomplishes nothing.

They say I have no empathy. Sorry if I think with my brain and not my feelings.

What exactly are you trying to prove by arguing against my points?

I implied that gays were at high risk for AIDS infection. Do you believe that is incorrect?

I said that suicide was optional. Do you believe that is incorrect?

I said that there is no such thing as a valid reason for suicide. Do you believe that is incorrect?

How is it possible that someone has the right to dress a certain way, but I do not have the right to passively dislike it? I don't have the right to passively dislike someone's attire, yet you have the right to actively dislike my arguments? There's more hypocrisy here than on Capitol Hill. YIKES

 

[wyst]

Weren't you the one criticizing stereotypes?

You just made two.

1) I'm a bodybuilder, therefore, I must use steroids.

2) I allegedly use steroids, therefore, I must be sterile.

What a riot.

-Warik

That was irony -- you were the one who pretty much said stereotypes were a good indicator of truth a few posts back. And by the way, you need to get a good logic textbook before you attempt to make that sort of post. You haven't got the lingo down quite right. I'm embarrassed for you. Probably goes over with fawning carny friends, though.

 

[smallmovesal]

suicide is not something to blame anyone for... it happens.

there is a very high suicide rate amongst our aboriginal teenagers... that and alcoholism... all because of circumstances beyond their control - cyclical community problems.

i suspect you have little life experience warik. that's not an insult, just an observation.

 

[Warik]

That was irony

lol. No, it was hypocrisy. You argue against one thing and then use it in the following post. It's like me saying tax increases are bad and then saying "oh... but tax increases are OK as long as they help pay for this."

And by the way, you need to get a good logic textbook before you attempt to make that sort of post.

Is that so? Why don't you be so kind as to point out some of my logical fallacies, or are you simply saying this in hopes of going off on another tangent?

-Warik

 

[smallmovesal]

you're not a fucking computer warik... so get off of it.