being GAY.

[Warik]

Re: Re: Re: being GAY.

But only 0.5% of new cases are contracted by homosexuals. The fastest growing group in the US is straight black males.

I was not referring to new cases. I was referring to existing cases, but if you want to play the growing game...

"Gay and bisexual men of all races remain at alarming risk for AIDS"
Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/od/hiv_plan/Men Who Have Sex With Men.htm

"Of new infections among men in the United States, CDC estimates that approximately 60 percent of men were infected through homosexual sex"
Source: CDC

So before you advance a stereotype that has undoubtedly caused many to have irresponsible/unprotected sex, get your stats in line.

I don't think the stereotype has caused anything. The only things that have caused many to have irresponsible/unprotected sex is ignorance and irresponsibility - plain and simple. Let's not try to justify peoples' ignorance and irresponsibility by blaming the evil stereotype. Once again - the stereotype didn't "make" them do anything. They had the choice.

-Warik

 

[Warik]

Re: Re: Re: being GAY.

True, there's the stereotype of the dumb kid with very little experience in the real world who thinks he knows everything but knows practically nothing.

Nothing like personal insults to make you look intelligent and strenghten your argument.

-Warik

 

[RyanH]

Along the lines of what Matt said, as long as people regard AIDS as a gay disease it will continue to spread even more.

Are you guys familar with the increasing number of AIDS cases in China? Apparently, blood transfusions in China are often contaminated and the recent growth of the sex trade, has caused the number of HIV cases in China to explode.

the Chinese government has no clue as to how to deal with the situation, but then, neither does ours.

 

[Warik]

Warik, do you realize how much of Africa and now China is being overwhelmed by the AIDS virus, both men and women, mostly straight? AIDS is spreading like wildfire, people are keeping their head in the sand, and your are amongst those.

Do I live in Africa or China? No, I live in the US, which is the country to which I was referring. Homosexuals are at extremely high risk in this country for AIDS infection, hence the stereotype. If straight white men were those at extremely high risk for AIDS infection, then the stereotype would be adjusted accordingly.

Stereotypes only affect those who wish to be affected. Americans nowadays tend to stereotype Middle-Easterners as terrorists. My dad is Middle-Eastern and therefore I am part Middle-Eastern. Do you honestly think either of us gives a shit? Thick skin - grow it.

-Warik

 

[smallmovesal]

Re: Re: Re: Re: being GAY.

Nothing like personal insults to make you look intelligent and strenghten your argument.

-Warik

If I were you, I'd cut my losses and join a freak show. You would probably be the main attraction because you are a soaking-wet penis.


whoops, wrong thread. my bad

 

[wyst]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: being GAY.

If I were you, I'd cut my losses and join a freak show. You would probably be the main attraction because you are a soaking-wet penis.


whoops, wrong thread. my bad

It's okay, Warik is generally in the position of having to cut his losses, and generally saying something that his tiny little mind thinks is daringly provocative. How sad. He either has no friends in real life or is surrounded by an entourage of illiterate carny freaks who are impressed by his supremely misplaced confidence in his sadly underdeveloped world view. The guy has absolutely no empathy and no ability to communicate. Hell even the serious rednecks here avoid him like the plague cos they're afraid he might rub up against them and get his antisocial stink all over them.

 

[Warik]

Re: Re: Re: being GAY.

Warik, you are a fucking idiot.

Hm, you resort to senseless, childish name-calling, yet I do not despite obvious antagonization. I believe your analysis of the "fucking idiot" in this discussion is in err.

Why should you get to decide who wears what?

Who says I was deciding anything? I said I didn't mind unless <blah>. Does that mean that <blah> is not allowed? No, it means that I'm not bothered unless <blah> occurs. Do you get bothered when 110lbers in the gym flex in the mirror? Well, why should you decide who gets to flex or not? I have as much right to be bothered by someone dressing flamboyantly as that person has to dress flamboyantly.

And, by the way, your ignorance is showing. The only homosexual I've ever know (and I've known a great many) who acts like that is Jack on Will and Grace, and he doesn't really. The sterotype that you are basing your gay-panic fears on barely exsits in most of the world.

I have no "gay-panic" fears, or fears of gays in general. Additionally, I've seen several homosexuals, in real life, acting and dressing in that manner. I don't know where you live, but in South Florida it seems to be different. Here, one can often determine whether someone is gay or not simply by what they are wearing or how they are acting. Of course, I agree, many homosexuals do not act or dress in that manner, but most people who do ARE gay.

I'm sorry if the truth hurts.

How dare you invade a thread talking about the issue of this poor guy worrying about his dead friend with your juvenile BS that you are only saying to get a rise out of people. What a sad little life you must lead to need to antagonize people just to get your pathetic little jollies.

Blah blah blah waahhhh. I was responding to his "in short" comment which claims that homosexuals have more "reason" of some sort to commit suicide than other people. That is obvious bullshit. There is no reason for anyone to commit suicide - once people, people like Ryan's friend, realize this, there will be much fewer suicides. "I'm gay and nobody likes me" is not a reason to terminate one's life - the most precious gift.

-Warik

 

[musclebrains]

Re: Re: Re: Re: being GAY.

Nothing like personal insults to make you look intelligent and strenghten your argument.

-Warik

Um, it's YOUR argument, Bright Boy. Weren't you the one who said it was fair to stereotype since stereotypes are based on the truth? And isn't a stereotype a generalizaton to the individual of a collective observation? Didn't you advise growing a thick skin below?

Insult indeed. And then there' s the failure of your sense of irony, even when you set it in motion.

Other people can argue with you, Warik. I leaned years ago that engagement with petty bigots who never pay attention, when making a retort, to the coherence of their own arguments, is a waste of time. I happily bow out of another thread that you invaded with your childish assertions that are wholly beside the point.

You don't want gay people assaulting your poor little-boy sensibilities. I don't want uneducated fools taking up my time.

 

[Warik]

Man, I hope your steroids make you sterile so that your complete lack of empathy isn't inflicted on any children.

Weren't you the one criticizing stereotypes?

You just made two.

1) I'm a bodybuilder, therefore, I must use steroids.

2) I allegedly use steroids, therefore, I must be sterile.

What a riot.

-Warik

 

[Warik]

Along the lines of what Matt said, as long as people regard AIDS as a gay disease it will continue to spread even more.

AIDS is not a "gay" disease, though. Gay men are at high risk for contracting AIDS, but the disease is not exclusive to that group of people. I'm not trying to suggest that AIDS is a "gay" disease by any means.

-Warik