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Been Clean For a LONG Time and Need Cycle Advice

syko

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Hey guys,

I'm 34 and have been clean since I was in my early 20's. I did 3 cycles, each with just one drug: test prop, dBol, and Anadrol. Right now I'm 232lbs, 20% fat, 6'2" and working my way down to 10% fat before I'm considering starting a cycle. I'm doing a push/pull/legs routine with interval training for fat loss. My diet is clean although I don't bother weighing shit anymore, and won't ever waste time doing that again.

My reasons for wanting to start a cycle is to get my lean muscle mass up again. Over the years I've lost about 15 lbs of muscle and I'd like to get it back.

I need super lean gains that won't have everyone talking about me hitting the sauce (including my wife who knows I used to use and was with me for one of those cycles), absolutely NO issues with anger or personality (I have a professional job with professional clients who expect professional service), and something that is reasonably easy to get and not counterfeited too much.

I'd also need good advice about most cycle therapy as well as diet. I'm mostly clueless.

I'm just looking for the most simple solution that meets the criteria I've outlined.

I know I'm asking for the world here, but I just thought I'd see how much things have changed over the years. I have a sense of what I should be doing, but it's been a long long time since I spent any time thinking about this stuff.

Thanks a lot.
 
Hey guys,

I'm 34 and have been clean since I was in my early 20's. I did 3 cycles, each with just one drug: test prop, dBol, and Anadrol. Right now I'm 232lbs, 20% fat, 6'2" and working my way down to 10% fat before I'm considering starting a cycle. I'm doing a push/pull/legs routine with interval training for fat loss. My diet is clean although I don't bother weighing shit anymore, and won't ever waste time doing that again.

My reasons for wanting to start a cycle is to get my lean muscle mass up again. Over the years I've lost about 15 lbs of muscle and I'd like to get it back.

I need super lean gains that won't have everyone talking about me hitting the sauce (including my wife who knows I used to use and was with me for one of those cycles), absolutely NO issues with anger or personality (I have a professional job with professional clients who expect professional service), and something that is reasonably easy to get and not counterfeited too much.

I'd also need good advice about most cycle therapy as well as diet. I'm mostly clueless.

I'm just looking for the most simple solution that meets the criteria I've outlined.

I know I'm asking for the world here, but I just thought I'd see how much things have changed over the years. I have a sense of what I should be doing, but it's been a long long time since I spent any time thinking about this stuff.

Thanks a lot.


Welcome to Elite,you're at the right place

A first good starter is 500 mgs of test a week you will need arimidex for bloat and Gyno if thet should arise

For PCT
This should do it!

Testosterone Recovery Stack
 
Welcome to Elite,you're at the right place

A first good starter is 500 mgs of test a week you will need arimidex for bloat and Gyno if thet should arise

For PCT
This should do it!

Testosterone Recovery Stack

Thanks RADAR, I appreciate your feedback. I know you've been here a while. I remember you from years ago when posting was free! lol

What type of test would you recommend? Back in the day I think I was onto the idea of enanthate. In any case, could you provide me the type of test you'd recommend, the frequency of dosage, duration of cycle, etc?

Sorry for being so annoying, but I'm finding there's just so much information here I'm having a hard time weeding through it...
 
Thanks RADAR, I appreciate your feedback. I know you've been here a while. I remember you from years ago when posting was free! lol

What type of test would you recommend? Back in the day I think I was onto the idea of enanthate. In any case, could you provide me the type of test you'd recommend, the frequency of dosage, duration of cycle, etc?

Sorry for being so annoying, but I'm finding there's just so much information here I'm having a hard time weeding through it...

Sorry to be slow answering,Test Eth or Cypionate both can be injected one or twice weekly for more stable blood levels!

Most vials are 10ml bottles ,so you will need two to run a 10 week cycle,that should be sufficient, If you are prone to balding or a history runs in your family i would get some finistride,and OTC Nizoral shampoo.
 
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Hey guys, thanks for your input. Now here's what I'm thinking:

week / enanthate / HCG / Aromasin / Clomid / Nolvadex
1 / 250 X 2 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0
2 / 250 X 2 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0
3 / 250 X 2 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0
4 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
5 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
6 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
7 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
8 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
9 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
10 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
11 / 0 / 1000 mwf / 12.5 ed / 50 ed / 20 ed
12 / 0 / 1000 mwf / 12.5 ed / 50 ed / 20 ed
13 / 0 / 1000 mwf / 12.5 ed / 50 ed / 20 ed
14 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 50 ed / 20 ed
15 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 50 ed / 20 ed
16 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 50 ed / 20 ed

Would really appreciate your input. I know there's a lot of new PCT options out there now, but I'm way more comfortable using stuff that's been around for years.
 
Should I post this in another area, or is it just that people are board with this kind of question?

There seems to be some differing opinions out there about PCT and the use of HCG during a cycle. I'm just curious if I'm approaching this in the most safe fashion, and if there's a reasonable chance I can get these drugs legitimately (not fakes) when the time comes.

I'm looking for equal levels of growth and safety.

...oh, and I do have thinning hair already, but baldness does not run in my family. The thing there is that finasteride seems to get VERY mixed reviews. I just can't see that drug fitting my safety requirements.

Thoughts on all this, including the cycle?
 
Hey guys, thanks for your input. Now here's what I'm thinking:

week / enanthate / HCG / Aromasin / Clomid / Nolvadex
1 / 250 X 2 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0
2 / 250 X 2 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0
3 / 250 X 2 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0
4 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
5 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
6 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
7 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
8 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
9 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
10 / 250 X 2 / 250 X 2 / 12.5 ed / 0 / 0
11 / 0 / 1000 mwf / 12.5 ed / 50 ed / 20 ed
12 / 0 / 1000 mwf / 12.5 ed / 50 ed / 20 ed
13 / 0 / 1000 mwf / 12.5 ed / 50 ed / 20 ed
14 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 50 ed / 20 ed
15 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 50 ed / 20 ed
16 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 50 ed / 20 ed

Would really appreciate your input. I know there's a lot of new PCT options out there now, but I'm way more comfortable using stuff that's been around for years.



What is this 11,12,13 @ 1000?
 
That's HCG. Are these 1000iu amounts only necessary if you haven't been taking HCG throughout the cycle? If so, what would you do during this time?
 
Im pretty new to the injecting but I think u need to let the test clear out before u start PCT especially with the longer esters.
 
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