Bastard Zone Diet

[KWKSLVR]

WTF I've been on this thing for 2 weeks, consuming at the most 2000 calories a day (this is under maintenance) and all I have to show for it is an expanding waist line and constipation out the @$$.

 

[Babyfaced Assassin]

maybe you're not couting ur calories right
what are you eating and what are your stats & stuff

 

[onerepmaximum]

Yeah man, make sure you are looking at the serving sizes and the number of servings per container. It doesn't make much sense that you could eat 2000 calories a day and still gain wait unless you are extremely sedentary and a pretty small person.

 

[KWKSLVR]

I just counted calories, i'm well within my limits. Here' the totals, and i eat 5 times a day
2 zone bars - 210 calories a day
2 cans of green beans
4-5 chicken wraps made with 2 breasts of chicken marinated in Dales and wrapped in these tortillas from la tortilla factory:
Specs on one: 3gs fat
19gs carbs - 14gs of fiber
8g's of protein.

I'm 5'11 225lbs

This constipation is killing me. I swear its the GD fiber or something. I NEVER had problems on 20g's/carbs a day when i was low carbing

 

[KWKSLVR]

Well, i should rephrase the term "gaining weight". i don't have a scale so i don't know. What i can tell you is that my 36 waist shorts are now tight along with my XL t-shirts

 

[onerepmaximum]

You say specs on one. One what? Tortilla? Each Zone bar has 210 calories. That's 420 calories right there. Are you sure that you're not miscalculating? You are definitely getting a ton of sodium too. You could be retaining water.

 

[KWKSLVR]

Yes, in one tortilla.

Basically breakfast is usually a zone bar OR a bowl of oatmeal (no butter) and 1 egg white.

Lunch is typically 2 chicken wraps/lettuce and mustard and a can of green beans. 1 chicken breast is used in both wraps. This comes out to:

70 Cals from the green beans
and
180 Cals in each wrap (so 180x2)
430 cals

Dinner is the same. (i LOVE these tortillas )
430 cals

In between lunch and dinner I usually have another bar if its handy since its got a good ratio to it, so thats another 210 calories.

If I work out, I'll eat something small again but its never any more than about 300 calories.

Heck, the day I just outlined has 1300 calories in it. I know that I'm going to retain some water since I've made a switch from basically atkins to this, but it seems almost rediculous. I just think I should be adjusting to this by now. The Dales marinade has a lot of sodium in it, but thats about it.

Is not even like I'm really that hungry on this thing. Its quite satisfying. I don't get it.

 

[onerepmaximum]

The canned beans have a pretty good amount of sodium too. Have you ever calculated your basal metabolic rate? If so, what is it? I think it is entirely possible that you are not getting enough calories and your body thinks you are starving. You will kind of go into a self preservation mode and your body will store as much fat as it can. Also, maybe you should keep a log of what you eat for a few days. I know when I was losing weight for a BB show, if I didn't have a log, I would have forgot about some of the things that I ate earlier in the day when I was tabulating calories and carbs and protein and whatnots.

 

[KWKSLVR]

Well, I've thought about that but I know that I probably eat a little more than that. Like, for example, last night about an hour before bed I ate a couple slices of cheese.

I think you guys might be right with the sodium thing. I think I'm going to switch over to the Del Monte no salt added green beans and just add some vegtable seasoning to it. Theres only 35 grams of sodium in the entire can.

Sodium is the one thing I've forgotten to look at when I've been tabulating all of this.

 

[onerepmaximum]

It's the stuff that you don't think that matters to get ya. Attention to detail, baby. Try the food log if you can.

 

[eurorides]

fuck the bars man, i found the best way to diet is have some foods that fill you up. like veggies and egg whites youi wont be starving, and will save alot of $ w/o the bars. if you want bars go to a candy store kuz thats all they are. snickers with a little more protien.

 

[KWKSLVR]

Naa, the Zone Bars are actually fairly good IMO although I do think they have a tad to much sugar. I use them as a literal meal replacement and 6 for 4.96 isn't bad on the pocket book at all. I'm a big fan of the current bar fad. What can I say .

Thanks for all of the help guys. I'm going to start a food log here shortly.

 

[DarkCreole]

Also, what are you drinking during a typical day?

Only water?
Juices?
Soda? etc...

 

[Babyfaced Assassin]

fuck the bars man, i found the best way to diet is have some foods that fill you up. like veggies and egg whites youi wont be starving, and will save alot of $ w/o the bars. if you want bars go to a candy store kuz thats all they are. snickers with a little more protien.

Great advice

if u awnna be serious about your diet, don't eat crap bars

 

[KWKSLVR]

Also, what are you drinking during a typical day?

Only water?
Juices?
Soda? etc...

Water mainly, although I do indulge in a diet pepsi here and there . If I feel froggy I'll make some Crystal Light about once a month.

 

[eurorides]

just forget those bars and you will see results.

 

[KWKSLVR]

I still don't see how eating something like that is like eating a candy bar. Don't get me wrong, I love egg whites more than anyone (I've always got an 18 pack boiled and ready to go) but sometimes I need something I can just toss in the car to have on standby in case I'm not at home (which is a lot).

I mean, come on, lets be realistic. Which is better, a Snickers or this:

Zone Bar
Total Fat: 7g
Saturated Fat: 3g
Cholesterol: 5mg
Sodium: 360mg
Potassium: 100mg
Total Carbohydrate: 20g
Dietary Fiber: 0g
Sugar: 13g
Protein: 16g

Vitamin A 50%
Vitamin C 210%
Calcium 2%
Iron 8%
Vitamin E 210%
Thiamin 50%
Riboflavin 50%
Niacin 100%
Vitamin B6 200%

Folate 45%
Vitamin B12 45%
Biotin 30%
Pantothenic Acid 35%
Phosphorus 8%
Magnesium 10%
Zinc 50%
Selenium 80%
Chromium 80%
Molydbenum 70%

Granted, theres a LOT of sodium in one of these things. But it can't be that bad when your on the go? No flames, I'm just trying to learn.

 

[eurorides]

your right man, we are all wrong, you have the perfect diet and will be ripped in 2 weeks max...keep up the good work

 

[Deleted member 33117]

How many raw veggies are you eating, and how much water are you drinking? I'm familiar with the Zone diet, it is better than most. 2000 calories is a bit low unless you are like 150 ibs.

 

[STEP OFF]

gettin back to your question on why you think you may have gained weight .. were you bulking before switching to this diet? cus i know a lot of people who were on a bulking diet, and immediately went into a caloric defict, and what basically happened was they stored some more fat. makes sense, you're giving your body all this food, then suddenly when you cut it off, its going to store as much fat as possible, to "stay alive".

 

[Deleted member 33117]

STEP OFF is correct, drastic cutting of calories will lead to a rapid reduction in yoru metabolic rate. Your body may very well be in a startvation mode. Also, the expanding waist could be due to your constipation. Those bars are too bad, nothing like 26 grams of sugar first thing in the morning to keep one lean. Drop the bars.

 

[KWKSLVR]

your right man, we are all wrong, you have the perfect diet and will be ripped in 2 weeks max...keep up the good work

Seriously man, I'm noy trying to start something. I just want to learn about the physics of it all. I want to know why things are the way they are. i'm not trying to argue at all.

Step Off - I went on the zone diet because i was pretty tired of the low carb thing. The main thing for me is overall heathly.

 

[B0ARDIN087]

I just want to learn about the physics of it all.

haha not to be mean but im pretty sure physics DOESN'T apply to dieting.... maybe chemistry or biology tho

 

[eurorides]

whole foods are better then candy bars....look at what else is in the bars.

 

[KWKSLVR]

haha not to be mean but im pretty sure physics DOESN'T apply to dieting.... maybe chemistry or biology tho

Sorry, I was a little wasted last night (like that was a good idea ). I get my words confused .

What about studies that show that people who lose weight and get in shape with the help of meal replacements are more likely to stay in shape better, and longer than those who don't? Reason being, people can get decent nutrition easily and its easier to "Stay on the bandwagon" because you know what you can eat. It makes it easy.

Hell, if I could pop 5 pills a day and never eat, I'd take it

 

[onerepmaximum]

I still say a piece of meat is better than a protein shake or bar any day. If you can eat food instead of supplementing with bars or shakes, do it. That stuff is only for emergencies when you can't eat right.

 

[KEL]

Babydoc and I have had great success on The Zone.

The bars must be cut in half-
1/2 bar = 1 snack on The Zone

If you depend on a the whole bar for a meal you end up with too much fat and not enough protein to stay in the Zone.

And fiber will not constipate you- bloat yes but it is the mighty fiber that helps to keep everything "moving".

Watch your sodium intake canned veggies tend to be full of them.

 

[Gymgurl]

Go to the store and buy some fiber that you can mix in your food and try that to help you poop!