Barbell Behind Neck Press

[anthrax]

In an other thread you agree to say that Pull downs behind the neck were not good for the rotator cuff

Is it the same thing with seated behind the neck press for shoulders ?

 

[Atomic Punk]

People who feel that way about pulls, will have the same philosophy about seated millies too bro. I feel that seated behind-the-neck millies are the best lift for delt mass. I also feel that btn pulls widen your lats like no ther exercise as well.

With BTN Pulls, I try to lift light with form. Hold the contraction at the bottom, and don't lock out at the top. I rest only 1 minute max, so that the lighter weights will feel heavy. The same priciples apply to millies.

 

[supreme]

It all depends on your flexibility, past injuries & posture. Can you lower the bar down comfortably full R.O.M. WITHOUT pain, or bending your head downward i.e. keep looking straight ahead or sticking your head forward like some deformed chicken???

Pressing behind the head is safer than pulling down, same rules apply - but think... there is not 1 sport or job that requires you to pull a weight down behind your head in a seated position....

NOTHING should move in this exercise except the lats, shoulder girdle & arms.

If pulling to the front, NO LEANING BACK of your torso - turns it into a half-assed horizontal row that overloads your rotator cuff.

So behind the head pulldowns are an unecessary risk for most, but they can be done if you meet the above criteria and the boom of the pulldown is long enough to extend behind your head so as to allow the bar to drop straight down.

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[Dial_tone]

I do seated presses on a machine so I don't have to force my elbows so far back.

 

[needsize]

I do feel the same about presses as pulldowns, bad idea. Since the rotator cuff wasnt designed to bear weight that way, its a huge unneccesary risk. Some guys can get away with doing it, but why take the risk when military to the front is a better mass builder in my opinion. You have a longer range of motion, and can use more weight.
My shoulder width has always been a major problem with me, but I've been concentrating on military to the front for 1.5 years now, and my shoulders are one of my best bodyparts now

 

[punch]

good point...NS. I think that adding behind the neck presses at the end of a shoulder workout maybe the way to go if one feels the need. I do this on occasion. Miltary presses to the front coupled w/ dumbell presses are the safest route for sure.

 

[MR.DUMBELL]

i dont like them behind the neck

 

[anabolicmd]

In an other thread you agree to say that Pull downs behind the neck were not good for the rotator cuff

Is it the same thing with seated behind the neck press for shoulders ?

Yes. Think about it, when your arms go behind your neck, your shoulder tightens up. Now press up in that position, and you will feel the friction in your shoulder. Both movements shopuld be done with hands to the front, shoulders are sensitive to torque and friction, and there is no significant benefit to going behind the neck to make it worth fucking up your shoulders.

 

[theoak01]

Im not a fan of either,1 it hurts my shoulders 2 more rom in millies and for pulldowns I dont feel it like I do infront or chins

 

[JT Iron]

I loved behind the neck press until it started to mess up my shoulders. Front press works just as well.