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silverbackn

silverbackn

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I see a lot of new faces on here! I haven't been on here in while. Where are my oldschool homeslices? lol. Anywho. I am rocking Univet Enanthate and half the time I take it it cripples me due to high BA content. Do any of you guys have experience with baking your gear? Does that help with this issue? I know I sound like a newbie, which I'm not, but I'm struggling. I need to get up to a gram until I'm 4 weeks out from my show and right now I can barely get 500mgs a week due to crippling soreness. I'm walking with a damn limp. I am also thinking about using sterile oil to cut it with. Anyways, holla at your boy, thanks in advance for any responses!
 
georgie24 said:
try getting some steril oil from research site and cut it 1:1

baking can lead to issues
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I have heard that it can be complicated. I haven't been able to train legs for a week. It's not just a little soreness, it's crippling. My leg has buckled numerous times, luckily I haven't fallen down like a total douche. I will start looking for some oil, thanks my man.
 
georgie24 said:
Baking issues:

may thwart the hormone

pin top may melt during baking process ( its happend to me )
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Neither one of those would be a good thing!!! Thanks for the heads up bro. It looks like cutting it is the way to go. Do you have any preference on which type of oil you use?
 
Probably not the BA anyway, your gear is more than likely dropping out of solution while inside your muscle. BA would cause a little pain quickly but would get absorbed fairly quickly too where as if you're getting crippling pain for days after, I would bet it's from gear crystallizing in muscle.
 
Very easy my friend

First vent the vial, with an 18guage needle, make certain the needle is not in the gear, or the gear will simply boil out.

Then bake it for 25 minutes in the oven not microwave at 225 degrees,


Remove it from the oven, let it cool, and pain free,


I do this all the time, if the first couple of injections hurt, I simply bake it,


Exceptions, prop, suspension, T-400, T-300, God just wants us to suffer with those items.
 
solidspine said:
Very easy my friend

First vent the vial, with an 18guage needle, make certain the needle is not in the gear, or the gear will simply boil out.

Then bake it for 25 minutes in the oven not microwave at 225 degrees,


Remove it from the oven, let it cool, and pain free,


I do this all the time, if the first couple of injections hurt, I simply bake it,


Exceptions, prop, suspension, T-400, T-300, God just wants us to suffer with those items.
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I have also baked my test e but for 15 minutes at 200 degrees. It seemed to help. But the crystalization could be likely too. Not sure if cutting the gear helps with that or not. And 1:1 isn't hard....1ml for every 1ml.
 
st8grad said:
I have also baked my test e but for 15 minutes at 200 degrees. It seemed to help. But the crystalization could be likely too. Not sure if cutting the gear helps with that or not. And 1:1 isn't hard....1ml for every 1ml.
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Sorry read it wrong. Baking can be difficult is what you meant. Pretty simple, but I have seen many different opinions on temp and time. I thought prop was more prone to crystallization because is crashes out of the solution due to being less soluble and that was the likely cause of the pain? With the test e I suspected higher BA content as the cause. But I guess with the higher mg/ml it could be the cause for sure. Lot's of painful injections going around, mine are no exception. But I am sure the pain is much less now after baking.

It would be great to have some real concrete answers on the baking or cutting of the gear (and the effectiveness) because it is different everytime I read an answer. Can't we get any of the chem wizards to chime in?
 
Very interesting, I would love to hear more insights on it. I guess I will get some grapeseed oil and get it going. Soreness is one thing, this is way beyond that. I did a quad shot and I can't even flex my quad. When I walk I have to kick my leg out in front of me instead of striding normally becuase every contraction hurts like hell. Keep it going guys!!!
 
silverbackn said:
Very interesting, I would love to hear more insights on it. I guess I will get some grapeseed oil and get it going. Soreness is one thing, this is way beyond that. I did a quad shot and I can't even flex my quad. When I walk I have to kick my leg out in front of me instead of striding normally becuase every contraction hurts like hell. Keep it going guys!!!
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Trust me bro, I know what you are saying. No one will believe you until they experience it too, but it's hell. My glutes were sore for over a week and I could only sit on one side of my ass for that time. Think about how painful running was for me. I run 40 miles a week and felt like I had a bullet lodged in my ass. The quad shot was out of the question just in case. I shot in the delts after baking and so far so good. Injection 1 AB (after baking) was thursday and I had some minor soreness yesterday and today in my right shoulder. Injection 2 was yesterday in the left, with no pain yet. But I might be getting the crystallization too because the pain is delayed. But again, no where near what I experienced with my first two glute injections. Good luck.
 
st8grad said:
Trust me bro, I know what you are saying. No one will believe you until they experience it too, but it's hell. My glutes were sore for over a week and I could only sit on one side of my ass for that time. Think about how painful running was for me. I run 40 miles a week and felt like I had a bullet lodged in my ass. The quad shot was out of the question just in case. I shot in the delts after baking and so far so good. Injection 1 AB (after baking) was thursday and I had some minor soreness yesterday and today in my right shoulder. Injection 2 was yesterday in the left, with no pain yet. But I might be getting the crystallization too because the pain is delayed. But again, no where near what I experienced with my first two glute injections. Good luck.
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That shit is merciless! The pain seems to sit there for a week. It is definitely delayed. It doesn't seem to hit me until about 2 days after the shot. I think I am in the clear and then bam it hits me. I couldn't imagine trying to run, hell I can't walk. Have you ever tried cutting it with oil? I have never tried baking it or cutting it. BTW, mine is usually accompanied with a pretty solid fever for a day or two.
 
silverbackn said:
That shit is merciless! The pain seems to sit there for a week. It is definitely delayed. It doesn't seem to hit me until about 2 days after the shot. I think I am in the clear and then bam it hits me. I couldn't imagine trying to run, hell I can't walk. Have you ever tried cutting it with oil? I have never tried baking it or cutting it. BTW, mine is usually accompanied with a pretty solid fever for a day or two.
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Yep. Never tried cutting it. It could be worth it.
 
I'm gonna bake my primo 200 and try it again. Last time the shit left me hobbling for like 10 days; worst experience with gear EVER! Gonna start with a different brand though to see if my man's is less painless.
 
solidspine said:
Very easy my friend

First vent the vial, with an 18guage needle, make certain the needle is not in the gear, or the gear will simply boil out.

Then bake it for 25 minutes in the oven not microwave at 225 degrees,


Remove it from the oven, let it cool, and pain free,


I do this all the time, if the first couple of injections hurt, I simply bake it
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precisely what solidspine said,I've done it just like he described and it works great
 
solidspine said:
Very easy my friend

First vent the vial, with an 18guage needle, make certain the needle is not in the gear, or the gear will simply boil out.

Then bake it for 25 minutes in the oven not microwave at 225 degrees,


Remove it from the oven, let it cool, and pain free,


I do this all the time, if the first couple of injections hurt, I simply bake it,


Exceptions, prop, suspension, T-400, T-300, God just wants us to suffer with those items.
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this is how i do it but i use a 25g pin to vent.
 
I hope everyone here doesn't think the BA content is what cripples you for days. :worried:
 
st8grad said:
What else is causing the reaction? Crystallization?
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either a reaction to the compound your using, such as Prop with alot of people, high concentration gear, or gear crystallizing in muscle.
 
krishna said:
Why does baking it help then?
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It don't in my opinion.
 
silverbackn said:
I see a lot of new faces on here! I haven't been on here in while. Where are my oldschool homeslices? lol. Anywho. I am rocking Univet Enanthate and half the time I take it it cripples me due to high BA content. Do any of you guys have experience with baking your gear? Does that help with this issue? I know I sound like a newbie, which I'm not, but I'm struggling. I need to get up to a gram until I'm 4 weeks out from my show and right now I can barely get 500mgs a week due to crippling soreness. I'm walking with a damn limp. I am also thinking about using sterile oil to cut it with. Anyways, holla at your boy, thanks in advance for any responses!
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i baked my prop and takes it from a quad rocking leg locker to just like DOMS soreness.....must try!!!
 
krishna said:
It appears to for a lot of people.
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Well, I can't speak for them. I don't believe in the theory of being able to evaporate enough of the BA out of the gear to make a difference. I think if you had some gear that had a really high content of BA, maybe you could bake it long enough to maybe tell a difference??, I still doubt it. But the BA is absorbed fairly quick, pain you get days later that cripples you isn't from the BA.
 
krishna said:
I'm gonna bake my primo 200 and try it again. Last time the shit left me hobbling for like 10 days; worst experience with gear EVER! Gonna start with a different brand though to see if my man's is less painless.
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bro remember i had the same problem??? well i got some more of pf's primo which is 50% and it isn't bad at all....i have been site injecting it with no major cripplage if thats a word....but oh shit did the other stuff hurt...damn
 
pentatonic said:
Well, I can't speak for them. I don't believe in the theory of being able to evaporate enough of the BA out of the gear to make a difference. I think if you had some gear that had a really high content of BA, maybe you could bake it long enough to maybe tell a difference??, I still doubt it. But the BA is absorbed fairly quick, pain you get days later that cripples you isn't from the BA.
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Talking about taking it down just a percentage point or two though. From like 5% to 3% or something. Otherwise it is crashing out and it seems like a lot of people experience this. Why is it only with test?
 
st8grad said:
Talking about taking it down just a percentage point or two though. From like 5% to 3% or something. Otherwise it is crashing out and it seems like a lot of people experience this. Why is it only with test?
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If you mean the crashing only with test, it's not, it happens to other compounds too. Most of the time it occurs with all these UG's trying to make high concentration gear, but not all the time.
 
well its not a one case scenerio....some gear you can bake to get some of the ba out and it makes it much less painful....but some gear like hig concentrate blends with fast acting gear like a prop/tren ace/masteron prop blend is gonna give pain from the oil being absorbed faster than the drug crystal for lack of better term....imo this is much worse than ba pain
 
Vascular Freak said:
well its not a one case scenerio....some gear you can bake to get some of the ba out and it makes it much less painful....but some gear like hig concentrate blends with fast acting gear like a prop/tren ace/masteron prop blend is gonna give pain from the oil being absorbed faster than the drug crystal for lack of better term....imo this is much worse than ba pain
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The only thing is, the oil is a carrier, the benzyl benzoate is the solvent. The solvent is the culprit of the crashing, not the oil. That's why if you have gear that crashes in a vial, adding oil won't help it go back into solution, adding bb would.
 
just baked my test cyp because it was too painful to train properly with. 225 degrees for 15 min ....painless now!! Oh, and it still seems to be just as effective. This was my first time to try baking gear. Wish I would have known it might "thwart" the gear, but luckily it still seems just as good. btw my test cyp came from sachets which are rumored to be painful anyway.
 
manboy said:
just baked my test cyp because it was too painful to train properly with. 225 degrees for 15 min ....painless now!! Oh, and it still seems to be just as effective. This was my first time to try baking gear. Wish I would have known it might "thwart" the gear, but luckily it still seems just as good. btw my test cyp came from sachets which are rumored to be painful anyway.
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If your getting Test Cypionate that is painful, it's time to find another source. Also, 225 degrees for 15 minutes made a painful gear painless, LOL, I say it's in your head.
 
I just got my grapeseed oil in today. It might not help at all, but I have it so i will give it a try! I will keep you guys posted.
 
Vascular Freak said:
bro remember i had the same problem??? well i got some more of pf's primo which is 50% and it isn't bad at all....i have been site injecting it with no major cripplage if thats a word....but oh shit did the other stuff hurt...damn
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What do you mean by 50%, the concentration?
 
I have been cutting with the grapeseed oil and it has helped a ton. I am using a 1:1 ratio. It's easier to shoot the test through a 25g and I'm not getting anywhere near the soreness that I was.
 
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