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Avoiding tren crash? Radar?

krishna

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I remember Radar was looking into something about helping out recovery after a tren cycle. I want to add tren to the end of mine, but don't want to get shut down like I did last time I ran tren. Anyone got any info?
 
Well i'm still semi suppressed the only thing thats working right now is Bulgarian Tribulus and i mean than in a very slight way!
its a bitch either way you look at it ,will i run tren again, you betcha just not no 20 weeks anymore!

RADAR
 
buffsthestuff said:
running test a couple weeks longer than you run your tren will help make the tren crash less noticable


750mgs of test i'm on isn't helping!

RADAR
 
havent tried it yet but when i get on again with tren in the cycle im gonna give HCG a shot to see if that helps lessen "the blow" when coming back after a hard shutdown......anyone try this with success when using tren....
 
RADAR said:
Well i'm still semi suppressed the only thing thats working right now is Bulgarian Tribulus and i mean than in a very slight way!
its a bitch either way you look at it ,will i run tren again, you betcha just not no 20 weeks anymore!

RADAR

Ya that's what finally helped me last time. The Hcg and test didn't do shit.
 
dr_skier said:
Radar, what dosing schedule of hcg have you tried to restore the libido?


Weeks one thru three: 1,000U HCG, IM, Monday, Wednesday, Friday; 20mg Nolvadex daily. [50mg clomid daily is added to the cycle if i'm coming off a prolonged (12 week+), 600mg+total, weekly AAS dosing (heavy)].


Still no goood

RADAR
 
buffsthestuff said:
ouch 20 weeks of tren i feel for ya Radar but i bet your ripped to shreds right now though


I was on 750mgs of test
125mgs eod of tren and 40 mgs of Tbol and believe me i have more veins than the Rand MACNally Road Atlas!
I Was a FREAK!

RADAR
 
Did either of you run dostinex with it...or after?? I'm thinking of adding tren to my spring cutter...but not if I can't avoid losing my sex drive.
 
RADAR said:
125mgs mon ,wed,fri


RADAR
Wow, that's a very reasonable (not overly huge) dose. I was thinking of running about the same, though my cycle would be 7-8 weeks. Do you have a sense of how many weeks into your cycle the tren crash started to kick in? From my experience with Trenobol (an oral tren prohormone) it started to hit me around week 4-5.
 
djsf said:
Wow, that's a very reasonable (not overly huge) dose. I was thinking of running about the same, though my cycle would be 7-8 weeks. Do you have a sense of how many weeks into your cycle the tren crash started to kick in? From my experience with Trenobol (an oral tren prohormone) it started to hit me around week 4-5.


I was fine until i came off!



RADAR
 
mendo said:
Did either of you run dostinex with it...or after?? I'm thinking of adding tren to my spring cutter...but not if I can't avoid losing my sex drive.



Man i ran Dostinex,avena salvia, bromo, tried nova & Clomid, even got some cobra (libido booster) Cialis nor viagria didn't do shit!

I stuck with bulgarian tribulus and so far something is happening its not much but its a start!

RADAR
 
Geez. I'm sorry to hear that guys. Sounds like tren is a real pain in the ass. I haven't read too much about it but I know a few guys that are running it. I know they don't know jack about PCT so I'm sure they're in for a world of hurt.

Goodluck
 
RADAR, you know my situation about coming off the tren of my last cycle and running my winny after the test as well, and doing pct without hcg... (me=dumb) and just keep your head up (no pun intended), things will get better!!! what dose of the trib are you running? I swear that stuff gets more expensive then crank!
 
rejection_juice said:
Geez. I'm sorry to hear that guys. Sounds like tren is a real pain in the ass. I haven't read too much about it but I know a few guys that are running it. I know they don't know jack about PCT so I'm sure they're in for a world of hurt.

Goodluck


I Recommend it for no longer than 8 weeks mine was a 20 weeker

RADAR
 
RADAR said:
I Recommend it for no longer than 8 weeks mine was a 20 weeker

RADAR

agree with Radar here, use this for no more then 8 weeks if you dont want to be super shut down...i did 10 and boy was that even a tough one to come back from.....
 
RADAR said:
Well i'm still semi suppressed the only thing thats working right now is Bulgarian Tribulus and i mean than in a very slight way!
its a bitch either way you look at it ,will i run tren again, you betcha just not no 20 weeks anymore!

RADAR

20 WEEKS OF TREN? :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
 
dr_skier said:
RADAR, you know my situation about coming off the tren of my last cycle and running my winny after the test as well, and doing pct without hcg... (me=dumb) and just keep your head up (no pun intended), things will get better!!! what dose of the trib are you running? I swear that stuff gets more expensive then crank!




its 18 bucks a 90 ct bottle at www.NutritionExpress.com

I'm taking 8 caps daily at 750mgs each.
I started lower but kept upping the dosage every 7 days
RADAR
 
slyder190 said:
20 WEEKS OF TREN? :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:



Yes sir my friend, i loved her so much i wanted to keep her, unfortunately she dropped me like a worn out sock and found another love.


RADAR
 
Maxx Out said:
It's that bad bro? :confused:

Last cycle I ran it for 16 weeks and recovered fine with just clomid!


This is the only compound i have had a problem with.
Deca was nothing compared to this.

And good for you, lucky lil sh*t...may you contimue to do so ,maybe it was my age i don't know.


RADAR
 
makes me glad I always limit my tren to 6 weeks :) Not sure why I set that limit but glad i did. Good luck Radar on the recovery. Please share if you find a miracle suppliment that brings you back quickly. 10 million tren fans will want to know.
 
Update-The bulgarian tribulus is finally working
you will need 2 bottles for a 3 week PCT followed after reg pct,i have dropped the dosage & missed a day ,thats when i started noticing things ,so now its 3 caps EOD!

This is a must if you are severely suppressed from running tren.

RADAR
 
After my last show I ran HCG at 3000 IU's, 3000, 2000, 2000, every 4 days along with Nolva and Clomid. I came off fine and didn't notice any drop in libido. Maybe you should increase your HCG Radar. I talked to my doc and he recommend that I use 5000 IU's 3 times a week for 5 weeks. I thought that was excessive. I told him what I used for PCT. He said let's see if it worked. My blood tests showed my test at 750 ng/dl. That's high normal, so it worked.
 
Makavelli said:
After my last show I ran HCG at 3000 IU's, 3000, 2000, 2000, every 4 days along with Nolva and Clomid. I came off fine and didn't notice any drop in libido. Maybe you should increase your HCG Radar. I talked to my doc and he recommend that I use 5000 IU's 3 times a week for 5 weeks. I thought that was excessive. I told him what I used for PCT. He said let's see if it worked. My blood tests showed my test at 750 ng/dl. That's high normal, so it worked.

is that better then 1000 IU's a day for 10 days?
 
Makavelli said:
After my last show I ran HCG at 3000 IU's, 3000, 2000, 2000, every 4 days along with Nolva and Clomid. I came off fine and didn't notice any drop in libido. Maybe you should increase your HCG Radar. I talked to my doc and he recommend that I use 5000 IU's 3 times a week for 5 weeks. I thought that was excessive. I told him what I used for PCT. He said let's see if it worked. My blood tests showed my test at 750 ng/dl. That's high normal, so it worked.


That might be a thought to consider

Does sound excessive tho.
RADAR
 
RADAR said:
Update-The bulgarian tribulus is finally working
you will need 2 bottles for a 3 week PCT followed after reg pct,i have dropped the dosage & missed a day ,thats when i started noticing things ,so now its 3 caps EOD!

This is a must if you are severely suppressed from running tren.

RADAR

WOOOOHOOOOO!!!! NOw I'm gonna run a 20 weeker!!!!!!! maybe

thanks for the update Radar!
 
10-12 weeks of trenAce at 100/day is recoverable if you follow that party with at least four weeks of your test protocol with the addition of either proviron or masteron... HCG at weeks 6 and 12 then again at pct you do 500 to 750ED for a minimum of 6 days for the first two bouts and then follow your standard PCT protocol you should notice a marked diffence in you recovery times. Of course, cabaser/dostinex on hand and NOLVA durring the HCG times as your anti E makes a difference as well...


I remember you mentioning you were gonna do a 20 weeker of tren, Radar, i lit a candle at the local church for your libido...

have seen fellows do 12-14 weeks with EXTENDED test use after to soften the blow, only one i know that has done 14 weeks without much sadness is on year round anyway....

keep it at 10 weeks, seems to be the magic number for ACE users that want the full post 5 week punch without the horrorshows
 
just becareful with what you do. Tren is one of the most severe steriods to your liver not to mention it makes some people bald like a mother *&^%$. Load up on test and you should be ok, just remember 8 weeks and out. good luck there's nothing out there with the strenght and ripping effects like it.
 
Iron D

Tren is not harsh on your liver, nor is any other injectable AAS for that matter, except winny. There are rumors and wive's tales that it is hard on the kidneys, but this is still yet to be proved by anyone. I ran tren @ 75 mgs e.d. for 10 wks and didn't notice any more of a substantial crash than any other AAS. The again, I went right back on about a month and a half later, so I don't know. :evil:
 
I gotta chime in with the same reaction.... WOW, 20 WEEKS!!

I know you're a seasoned pro, Radar... but holy smokes! So what's the max cycle length you'd consider doing next time around? I'm a newbie with Tren, so my first cycle next spring will only be 6 weeks of tren... 8 weeks of test (to help soften the tren crash) and 4 weeks of t-bol at the end for good measure.... got some bulgarian tribulus on-hand too as well as maca, & avena
 
hotnjmuscle said:
I gotta chime in with the same reaction.... WOW, 20 WEEKS!!

I know you're a seasoned pro, Radar... but holy smokes! So what's the max cycle length you'd consider doing next time around? I'm a newbie with Tren, so my first cycle next spring will only be 6 weeks of tren... 8 weeks of test (to help soften the tren crash) and 4 weeks of t-bol at the end for good measure.... got some bulgarian tribulus on-hand too as well as maca, & avena



10 weeks is plenty for a tren cycle, at my age i might not be so lucky next time, it was a bitch recovering.

RADAR
 
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