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ATTN: Lord_suston, KingC, cuthbert

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you have a new competitor in boston



I hope you all will be training as hard I plan to be


time to gain some weight
 
Posted by Art McDermott on October 09, 2003 at 16:37:05:

In Reply to: 2004 X-Treme Strongman Application posted by Art McDermott on October 09, 2003 at 11:24:21:

Sorry for the changes.

Since my show is a Platinum Plus show, there will be a "Platinum Plus Open Class". All competitors in this class will vie for a Pro card. There will be other prizes as well, don't worry.

The other class, for those not wishing to jump into this group, will be a 225# and under class.

Since this is relatively new info, I am going to go back and take a look at things and make some weight changes. I will post the event specific info here very shortly.

Thanks for your patience.

Art



this sucks bc he will probably up the weights even higher now.. since the change
 
The weights probably won't change... unless he had planned on having a middleweight division... I can't remember if he did or not.

We'll have to wait and see what the event weights are...
 
it says in his post he's making weight changes...he did have a mid..but now its a open and under 225lb....
 
that'll be cool as hell if u compete also vinny.....if the weights dont change too much i will still do it...why not right
 
king, I feel for you bro. You were focused on this contest and it would be a bummer if they made those changes.

tec, you are a brave, brave individual, especially if you end up competing against the 225s. Hats off to you.

Lord and Cuthbert, eat up, no excuses :)
 
Boston should always scare the living HELL out of you when training for it. All other contests will feel easy after this one...you will be more focused on competing against the implements than you will the other competitors.

Always remember...if you think that the weights used in your class are heavy...just think about the weights in mine.

In 2002 I remember a young man competing in the light weight class. He wasn't quite all there, if you know what I mean. I think that he moved the Super Yoke a grand total of 4' out of the 100' which was followed by the 100' sled drag. He never gave up on that Super Yoke though...not once.

Time to quit talking about how tough it is going to be...and be excited that is is going to be an accomplishment to complete the day.

B True
 
Zander1983 said:
king, I feel for you bro. You were focused on this contest and it would be a bummer if they made those changes.

tec, you are a brave, brave individual, especially if you end up competing against the 225s. Hats off to you.

Lord and Cuthbert, eat up, no excuses :)
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yea but i will adapt and overcome...i always do...nothin else to do...i cant let myself get punked out by something as mental as numbers
 
Time to quit talking about how tough it is going to be...and be excited that is is going to be an accomplishment to complete the day.
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Exactly...when I first read about all of these changes,my excitement about the contest started to go downhill,but then I remembered what an awesome contest it always turns out to be,and that it is one to be proud of yourself for entering,and letting loose everything that youve been training hard for,no matter where you end up placing.Like Kingc's quote-"You can always be beaten because someone is stronger. NEVER be beaten because someone wanted it more..."
Good luck guys...train hard!!!!
 
kingc_79 said:
i take it u wont be entering?

and yes we're gonna make u go mr wife beater.;)
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You take correctly. no contests for me until I reach the 275 class. No matter how long it takes. I will be there losing my voice and whatever sanity is left for you guys.

lolololol @ Mr. wife beater. Once you can bench 405 you ARE allowed to wear wife beaters anywhere you want. :D
 
Getting excited about the Squat event:)

Just need to teach someone to wrap my knees for me:)

I'll also need a GOOD squat suit and briefs too...

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
Getting excited about the Squat event:)

Just need to teach someone to wrap my knees for me:)

I'll also need a GOOD squat suit and briefs too...

B True
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Yeah... I think Ryan is praying that he can use his canvas suit... and I'm glad I invested in a good one :)
 
o' i didnt even think bout the fact that u can use a squat suit...perfect time to try out my dbl ply poly frantz suit;)
 
speaking of which, kingc, would you post the link for the website where you got your briefs, and squat suit.

X
 
kingc_79 said:
it says in his post he's making weight changes...he did have a mid..but now its a open and under 225lb....
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Art will likely make the weights slightly heavier for the 225 and under division than he had planned to have for the light division (200 and under) originally posted. However, they will likely be lighter than the weights he planned for with respect to the middleweight division.

I'm betting the open class weights will be very heavy; that seems to be the requirement for any Platinum Plus show now where the winner will go pro. NASS does not want someone going pro unless they are confident that they can hang with the big boys.

You guys should do the show anyway. The only way you get good is by going to the big shows and seeing what the standard is that you're trying to meet. Ryan
 
b fold the truth said:
Getting excited about the Squat event:)

Just need to teach someone to wrap my knees for me:)

I'll also need a GOOD squat suit and briefs too...

B True
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Clint:

Have you heard anything about what restrictions, if any, there will be on the squat event as far as suits, briefs, ect.? I will be shocked if the rule is anything goes. Even I would admit that a canvas would be a little crazy. To be honest, depending on what the weight is, and how far we have to squat it, I'd be a little hesitant to use the canvas for fear that it would not be enough weight to get me to the bottom.

I'm also trying to picture exactly how the squat event will work. I'm assuming, in typical strongman style, it will not likely be an event where they judge you by seeing if you go to parallel, but rather will have the apparatus set up somehow to where you have to bring it down to a certain point until something touches the ground.
 
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rbrown said:


Art will likely make the weights slightly heavier for the 225 and under division than he had planned to have for the light division (200 and under) originally posted. However, they will likely be lighter than the weights he planned for with respect to the middleweight division.

I'm betting the open class weights will be very heavy; that seems to be the requirement for any Platinum Plus show now where the winner will go pro. NASS does not want someone going pro unless they are confident that they can hang with the big boys.

You guys should do the show anyway. The only way you get good is by going to the big shows and seeing what the standard is that you're trying to meet. Ryan
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thanks...and i will definitely do it anyways..just so i can get the plane ticket....that will push me even harder if i have to go against ppl alot bigger than me w/alot more experience like shane and jason...i cant wait..only way to find out is to lay it all on the line
 
Thanks Vance. I always thought this was strictly a pay site--I'm too cheap for that...lol As it turns out, I actually got 4th at Nationals. I took the trophy home and everything; they later discovered that one of the competitors was actually a 250 and that he had been scored as a 275 all day. Bummer. It's too bad, but I kind of dropped the ball on the hercules hold so I'm not that surprised. Had a blast anyway so I guess that's what counts.

I'm hoping all of you guys can make it back down for the Music City contest again. It will be cool.
 
rbrown said:
Thanks Vance. I always thought this was strictly a pay site--I'm too cheap for that...lol As it turns out, I actually got 4th at Nationals. I took the trophy home and everything; they later discovered that one of the competitors was actually a 250 and that he had been scored as a 275 all day. Bummer. It's too bad, but I kind of dropped the ball on the hercules hold so I'm not that surprised. Had a blast anyway so I guess that's what counts.

I'm hoping all of you guys can make it back down for the Music City contest again. It will be cool.
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just let us know when ya got the dates...i will definitely be there...loved it...was hopin to get in the novice division again.lol
 
I am almost certain that the 2nd Annual Music City contest will be the 2nd Saturday in June, 2004. Very likely at the same venue as last year.

Events we are thinking about are:

axle clean @ press for reps
truck pull (arm over arm style) or max 18" dead
conans wheel, heavy farmers no turn, or tire flip
medley (3 parts)
stones (6 to 10 stones)

I definitely want the stones and the medley. Everything else is still up in the air. The medley will likely be farmers, tire flip and yoke. Although I have been thinking about a variation where I have the conans wheel be the first part of a medley where you have to take it one turn to move on, but you could pick it back up if you dropped it. In that case we would likely make either the tire or farmers an event by itself. The stones may involve platforms of various heights for a 6 stone load, or may be more like Nationals this year since we now have 15 stones.

As for weight classes, I think for a number of reasons, I will go with the lightweight, middleweight, open designation. This way I do not have to have 175 guys forced to go what 225 guys are doing.


thoughts?
 
i like the event ideas, sounds better than max log(the influence of cuthbert) he thinks it is an event he can beat me on, he may quite possibly be right:) haha
 
Cuthbert is getting quite good at the max log--probably around 260 now; however, because I plan to have a decent number of competitors, and because I don't want people to be waiting around all day, I am leaning away from the max lifts. Max lifts take a long time because everyone gets to pick their weights and then take 3 attempts. On clean and press for reps, it goes very fast. I think max 18" dead is cool because of the huge numbers, but will likely stay away from that one if the truck pull comes through for timing reasons.
 
I like the idea of having the Conan's Wheel as part of a medley, and if things go well I wouldnt mind a heavy, straight farmer's walk.

I will still continue to campaign for the max log.. clean and press every rep is NOT good for me, lol... otherwise we need to start breaking out the thick bar
 
I will all depend on who is willing to pay me more money.... you or Wiley....lol Wiley loves clean and press every rep. :fro:

If I were competing in the contest, you can bet that it would be clean and press every rep with the 2 3/8" bar...:) The only way I can think of to put grip into an overhead event.
 
rbrown said:
I will all depend on who is willing to pay me more money.... you or Wiley....lol Wiley loves clean and press every rep. :fro:

If I were competing in the contest, you can bet that it would be clean and press every rep with the 2 3/8" bar...:) The only way I can think of to put grip into an overhead event.
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Yeah and you and Wiley are the only ones I know who think the clean is a joke compared to the press
 
sounds good..i'll plan on bein there...i like the idea of conan in medley also...w/heavy farmers straight as another event
 
hmmmm

i hope art posts what the events and weights will be soon...the suspense is killing me
 
Hey Ryan,
If you decided to keep a max overhead press,you could always do it like they did in STL in february,where you have a list of weights that you can use for your attempts.That seems to help a little.Also if you used the axle,you could probably get someone,or a few people to loan ironmind axles,so that you have multiples of the same kind,so that 3 or 4 people could go at one time
 
rbrown said:

Clint:
Have you heard anything about what restrictions, if any, there will be on the squat event as far as suits, briefs, ect.? I will be shocked if the rule is anything goes. Even I would admit that a canvas would be a little crazy. To be honest, depending on what the weight is, and how far we have to squat it, I'd be a little hesitant to use the canvas for fear that it would not be enough weight to get me to the bottom.

I'm also trying to picture exactly how the squat event will work. I'm assuming, in typical strongman style, it will not likely be an event where they judge you by seeing if you go to parallel, but rather will have the apparatus set up somehow to where you have to bring it down to a certain point until something touches the ground.
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It will be on the Viking Press from last year and I'm guessing I'll end up using something that feels like 650-700. I am also guessing that it will be 'close' to depth but not quite. Wondering if he will have any kind of requirement for foot position also.

Honestly, unless it is 'depth' then I doubt a canvas suit would help that much...what do you think? Not sure I can see them allowing canvas, never seen a canvas suit used at a Pro show. Chad Smith used a double poly Frantz at Pro Nats 2002 when he won that event.

B True
 
b fold the truth said:


It will be on the Viking Press from last year and I'm guessing I'll end up using something that feels like 650-700. I am also guessing that it will be 'close' to depth but not quite. Wondering if he will have any kind of requirement for foot position also.

Honestly, unless it is 'depth' then I doubt a canvas suit would help that much...what do you think? Not sure I can see them allowing canvas, never seen a canvas suit used at a Pro show. Chad Smith used a double poly Frantz at Pro Nats 2002 when he won that event.

B True
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wow..thats a lot of weight for a reps event..
 
kingc_79 said:


wow..thats a lot of weight for a reps event..
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Yes, but....

1. It IS a viking press, it won't feel the same as 650-700 on a bar.

2. They are pros, hahahahahhahahahahhahaha
 
I was meaning that it would FEEL like 650-700...not be that much on the Viking. And yes...this is the Pro class. I think that everyone should expect something VERY HEAVY for their weights too...

B True
 
b fold the truth said:


It will be on the Viking Press from last year and I'm guessing I'll end up using something that feels like 650-700. I am also guessing that it will be 'close' to depth but not quite. Wondering if he will have any kind of requirement for foot position also.

Honestly, unless it is 'depth' then I doubt a canvas suit would help that much...what do you think? Not sure I can see them allowing canvas, never seen a canvas suit used at a Pro show. Chad Smith used a double poly Frantz at Pro Nats 2002 when he won that event.

B True
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Yes, I agree that the canvas may not be optimum. I'll probably wear my poly even if the canvas is allowed. Since I don't train squat for reps, I do hope it is something fairly heavy; not something where you have to bang out 25 reps to win.
 
rbrown said:


Yes, I agree that the canvas may not be optimum. I'll probably wear my poly even if the canvas is allowed. Since I don't train squat for reps, I do hope it is something fairly heavy; not something where you have to bang out 25 reps to win.
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Im along the same lines as you here... if the weights are heavy the suffering doesnt last as long either, lol

and i left my belt at your house last night dammit
 
Exodus said:


you and pwr_mach should get together brown, here's what i did when he wrapped mine.......

http://www.adcockdynasty.com/videos/0927VanceKneeWraps.wmv

lol......... good to see you on here finally brown. this is Vance Adcock, btw. congrats on getting 3rd in nationals!

X
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Trying to understand......You wrapped your knees up and then ran out of memory? Cuz thats what it says when I try to run the video
 
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