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At what levels of natural test should you go on HRT?

AMGETR

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I've been contemplating applying for HRT from my doctor back in Canada. My natural test level was in the mid 200's when I took my test about 3-4 months ago. This was before any gear. So like Carth, I think I need to go on HRT.

At what levels do you think I would be elegible?
 
It all depends on your docs willingness to put you on based on your mid-200 test level. If you really want to ensure your doc's approval, run a deca only cycle then get tested a few weeks later. I guarantee your test levels will then warrant HRT....
 
Well, naturally I know I am way below normal. I remember vividly him stating that I should be in the 500-1000 range. I was in the 240-260 range. He put me on 200mg test every 2 weeks. Did nothing. I want to be on 500mg a week. So if anyone here that is on HRT, what were your natural levels when they put you on it? And what are you on now?
 
I'm in the process of gettin gon HRT right now. I will be running a 200 cyp/50 prop mix. My doc says I can oreder 5 10 ml bottles every 6 months. Thats just a little less than 500/week.
 
500mg/week of test is pretty much a cycle, not HRT. 100mg every week should get most user's levels in the upper range ~900ng/dl. If you ran 200mg/every 2nd week and had no success maybe you need weekly shots instead of every 2nd week...
 
AMGETR said:
Well, naturally I know I am way below normal. I remember vividly him stating that I should be in the 500-1000 range. I was in the 240-260 range. He put me on 200mg test every 2 weeks. Did nothing. I want to be on 500mg a week. So if anyone here that is on HRT, what were your natural levels when they put you on it? And what are you on now?
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Define "did nothing"? It had to raise you somewhat. You can forget 500mg/week HRT. No human naturally produces that much.
 
Nothing as in, I felt no drive in my sex drive, energy didn't increase, sperm volume was the same.

What could I suggest to the doctor for HRT? 250mg a week? I will be seeing him December'ish, when I go back to Canada.
 
Talk to Swale, when I meet with him, he told me everyone is different, some people feel great with there test being 500, some don't feel good until it gets closer to the high range of 800. Swale will get you on a good program. I think his site is Sculpted by Iron.com I beleive.
 
Dial_tone said:
Define "did nothing"? It had to raise you somewhat. You can forget 500mg/week HRT. No human naturally produces that much.
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No shit. I knew a guy in his late 50's who had been on this stack for something like 9 years, and had gone from 16" arms to 19" arms while on it. Guy was like 58 and had only been training for 10 years:
50 mg of test cyp once a week
50 mg of deca once a week
10 mg of dbol first thing in the morning

Dude was jacked, chased pussy all the time, paid for hookers etc.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
No shit. I knew a guy in his late 50's who had been on this stack for something like 9 years, and had gone from 16" arms to 19" arms while on it. Guy was like 58 and had only been training for 10 years:
50 mg of test cyp once a week
50 mg of deca once a week
10 mg of dbol first thing in the morning

Dude was jacked, chased pussy all the time, paid for hookers etc.
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Are you saying he was like this from the 50/50/10 or from the 500 a week ?
 
Dave949 said:
Are you saying he was like this from the 50/50/10 or from the 500 a week ?
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From the 50 mg test/50 mg deca ONCE a week, and the 10 mg dbol tab in the morning. That is not a lot, but more than enough to get his test levels around 1000 ng/dl. Granted the gains came slow for him, but accumulated over the course of 9 years on this stack. He was bigger than some of the peeps on here who do 500 mg of test/ 400 mg of deca or eq stacks.
 
AMGETR said:
What are your test levels at naturally, if you don't mind me asking?
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At last blood test they were around 300 ng/dl.

BTW, I am planning on shooting 1 ml (200cyp/50prop) every 4 days. Like I said I am still in the process of getting on the stuff. Doc seems fine with those amounts tho.
 
You guys that are on or thinking of going on HRT:

were your levels always low or low due to steroid use (if yes how much gear did you take?)
 
I'm going to have to take more tests and have a serious discussion with my doctor when I get back into Canada.
 
I think it also has to do with SHBG. Dude 1 can take 250mgs of Test and blow the fuck up because of lower SHBG whild dude 2 can take 500mgs and not be any bigger than the first guy because of higher SHBG.
 
Carth is right about the SHBG. The biggest driver of SHBG is estrogen. If you do not feel a surge in sex drive from the T you are probably converting too much estrogen, and you will need an anti-aromatase like arimedex, femara, or the other one. Lab work is needed to help optimize all this.
 
pursuit said:
You guys that are on or thinking of going on HRT:

were your levels always low or low due to steroid use (if yes how much gear did you take?)
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I lost a testicle to cancer when I was about 6 years old, so my levels are naturally very low.
 
Triple J said:
Carth is right about the SHBG. The biggest driver of SHBG is estrogen. If you do not feel a surge in sex drive from the T you are probably converting too much estrogen, and you will need an anti-aromatase like arimedex, femara, or the other one. Lab work is needed to help optimize all this.
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HUH? What do you mean? More estrogen less SHBG? Or less estrogen more SHBG? What? I dont know about the last shit you said. The less adex I use the more sex drive I get. I'm currenlty using 500mgs of Test per week and dropped the Adex and now my sex drive went up.
 
Estrogen drives up SHBG. Now Carth don't worry, apparently you have the opposite problem compared to many others: you do not convert very much T to E. Thus you feel better when you do not take any anti-e. Too little E, will also hurt sex drive. So in your case you do better without taking adex. However for somebody who is taking T and not getting an increase in sex drive, they really need to evaluate their overall levels of E, T, and free T. Preferably also look at DHT. Given the poster was not taking anything to combat estrogen there is a chance this was his issue. But only blood tests can tell for sure. The main point being there is more to the sex drive picture than just shooting up a bunch of T, it can be a little more complicated than that. Consider yourself lucky if you can keep it simple and just shoot up T. When I was younger I did not need to worry about estrogen, either. But now it, free T, and DHT are the major factors. Only by keeping my estrogen down does my free T come into a high range. And my sex drive improves further if I can add some DHT to the mix in the form of proviron or methyl-DHT.
 
Damn, I'm high 900's, low 1000's.
I just turned 26, so I know that shit's going down hill....
I need HRT :biggrin:


LOL@ BBF's story about the 58 y/o chasin' poon :lmao:
 
You guys SUCK, my first labs showed my test at 29!!! Thats less than a 90 year old man. Long story short, when I was on Test I started very low like 1CC every month, then every 2 weeks. I bumped it up to .75 CC's every 5 days. Any more and my sex drive would die,(probably becasue of too much Estrogen) less and I would crash and feel like shit before the next dose. Right now I am on Clomid and test production is around 550 to 650 for the last 4 months, (had to switch since the wife wanted a Kid) it worked shes 15 Weeks preggo now and I am switching back to .75 CC/5 days of Test enth and maybe throw in some HCG 2 days before next dose and also try HGH.
 
Briweve1 said:
Talk to Swale, when I meet with him, he told me everyone is different, some people feel great with there test being 500, some don't feel good until it gets closer to the high range of 800. Swale will get you on a good program. I think his site is Sculpted by Iron.com I beleive.
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AWWWW He said the S word.

j/k

He is my dr also. He starts at a low dose then raises to where your feel great. I am at the top of the 1200 range. In fact, I have an erection while I am typing this. ;)
 
500mg a week it not TRT but cycling....like was stated above... many urologists/endo's will start a patient off on 1 300mg shot a month.. and then work up to 400mg..and thats about as high as they go. Talk about ups and downs...they also try and push the gel a lot which can be messy..... If you are seriously going for HRT then see if you can get weekly shots..and remember....less is best.. so if you feel great on 75mg a week..then use that... but from what I hear..100mg a week appears the norm..
 
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