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The Shadow
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I have an Sk.....like it a lot
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Ulcasterdropout
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You give assualt rifles as presents?Pamela said:
....OMG I
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Buddy_Christ
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Pamela said:
i knew you were listening when i said i wanted one. i'll pretend i didn't know about this when i get it though, deal?
if you're looking for the most bang for the buck and you don't want to break your bank, look for a WSAR-10 AK-47. they're cheap, they're reliable, and they aren't picky about ammo from different manufacturers. example -
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Romanian_AK_WASR_10_7_62x39_Rifle.html
If this is a first assault rifle for someone, they'll be very happy. if it's someone that already has a good collection of assault rifles, they probably have one of these already.
that's a good price, but check with local gun shops first. also ask local shops what they're FFL fees are if you have a gun shipped to them. if you order online, it will have to get shipped to a gun shop, you'll have to pay shipping and then have to pay tax and FFL fees when you pick the gun up. you might come out cheaper than buying it from the shop, you might not.
the gun will have to be registered when you buy it, so if you pick it up, it's going to be in your name. prepay everything and then take the person to the gun shop so they can get it put into their name. that is, unless you're really planning on buying it for you and you're just not telling us something
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BradG said:
actually, i only own 3 guns - Japanese WWII Arisaka 38 Carbine, 12 gauge, Makarov.
the Jap rifle i have no ammo for. it's $1/round and very hard to find. i need to clean all the grease out of the barrel in order to fire it, but all the internals are fully functional. my grandfather brought it back from the South Pacific at the end of WWII. very common "bring back" rifle.
the 12 gauge is only good for skeet because i have a 28" smooth bore barrel. i should've gotten the combo package with the rifled barrel for $75 extra when i bought the gun. a new rifled barrel would probably run me $110.
the Makarov i'm pretty damn proficient with from 15 yards and less, which is fine because i'd never need to use it from further than that anyway IF i ever had to. i don't ever see that happening and really really really really really hope a situation like that never occurs. if it would ever happen, however, i know i can put 8 out of 10 shots into an area the size of a head in less than 30 seconds, if not all 10 rounds.
i'd love to get an AK sometime in the very near future. i've been trained with the M16, so adapting to an AK won't be a problem. i keep saying i'm going to get an AK, and every time i've gotta throw the cash elsewhere. it'll happen soon...hopefully.
Buddy_Christ
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Rex said:
30-30 or 30-06, i think you can get both of them in bolt action.
hell, you can get a bolt action 22 for deer if you're a real good shot. gonna have to hit it in the head or that deer is going to run for a long ass time, but a 22 will still do the job. 22 actually has a hell of a long range, but it's accuracy diminishes pretty fast IIRC.
i'm no gun expert, i just know a little here and there. i think Manny78 is a big time gun nut. he should be able to tell you exactly what make/model you're looking for based on what you want to spend.
echelon right
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this site offers a lot of weapons. although not as cheap as gunstores i know of, it's still a good site.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/rifle_semi.html
good site for ammo
www.ammoman.com
http://www.impactguns.com/store/rifle_semi.html
good site for ammo
www.ammoman.com
echelon right
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Pamela said:
mini-14 and mini-30 are both great... the 14 shoots 5.56 while the 30 shoots 7.62. your call. you can get a drum mag for the 14. the 14 is also more practical for hunting/varmint exterminating.
also, you can upgrade those weapons with cool weapon add ons.
Many years ago when I was a teenager and stupid, I bought a Tec-9 and a Mac 10 at the gun show. Man, these two son of a bitches are not worth the money you could get for melting them down and recycling them. Piss poor design. You can only use American Eagle brand ammo in them or else they fucking jam to hell and back. You have an accuracy of, oh... say 15 yards. Beyond that bullet trajectory is pretty much consisting of various right angles and travels through other time portals and dimensions. Meaning if you stood in a 40x40 room with mirrors all over the walls and fired the entire clip.. not a single mirror would break and not a single bullet would be found.
Out of the gun collection I received over the years from my father, I got an AR-15 one year for Christmas. Pretty cool, but the novelty of having one wears off quickly.
If you want a gun for sheer "futuristic" looks and "what the fuck" comments, then try to track down a (late 70's or early 80's) Remington double barrel clip loaded .410 Snake Charmer shotgun. It is only similiar to the original Snake Charmer, but the 7 round clip (holds 14 shells plus one in each chamber for 16) makes you wonder what the fuck someone can do with that. The only gun in existence where the stock itself is also the pump mechanism. This was the second gun I was ever given. To this day, I have yet to kill a snake with it. But I have sent many a stuffed animals won at the county fair to an early grave.
Out of the gun collection I received over the years from my father, I got an AR-15 one year for Christmas. Pretty cool, but the novelty of having one wears off quickly.
If you want a gun for sheer "futuristic" looks and "what the fuck" comments, then try to track down a (late 70's or early 80's) Remington double barrel clip loaded .410 Snake Charmer shotgun. It is only similiar to the original Snake Charmer, but the 7 round clip (holds 14 shells plus one in each chamber for 16) makes you wonder what the fuck someone can do with that. The only gun in existence where the stock itself is also the pump mechanism. This was the second gun I was ever given. To this day, I have yet to kill a snake with it. But I have sent many a stuffed animals won at the county fair to an early grave.
yo GOOGLEing bastard
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Romanian_AK_WASR_10_7_62x39_Rifle.html
This is cool!
Thanks guys K when I can!
This is cool!
Thanks guys K when I can!
Buddy_Christ
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Pamela said:
don't forget the synthetic collapsable buttstock, black synthetic forward hand grip, and the flash suppressor
Pamela said:
No one will fuck with you with one of those!
Buddy_Christ
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IBsomeonerequestsPamelainbikinipicsholdingassaultrifle
Buddy_Christ
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BileStew said:
FBI thing was a hoax. Officer thought he'd try to put a scare into me.
i never ran over any old ladies (not that i've admitted to on EF).
Roscoe P. Coltrane lost his job over the whole incident. i never recieved any compensation except an apology and the bill to get my gun fixed was paid for by the county. Roscoe losing his job definetly made me feel better though.
Hershey Park sucks when you have to take your kids there with you.
Buddy_Christ
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manny78 said:
collapsable stock looks much better than folding, plus is more usable.
Buddy_Christ
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manny78 said:
during the ban i was seeing about a 70/30 split between regular and wire folding stocks.
i'd rather have an Ak than an AR.
Buddy_Christ
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JerseyArt said:
one shot, one kill. doesn't matter what you're shooting, as long as you know how to shoot.
p0ink
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ok, if you are going to be giving an 'assualt rifle' as a gift, how much are you looking to spend?
personally, i would go with an AR15, since they are the most customizable weapon on the market. the only brands i would go with are: colt, bushmaster, rock river arms, and armalite.
stay away from anything ruger, because they are owned by a bunch of anti-gun nazis, who refuse to sell any more collapsable stocks or high capacity magazines for their firearms. they are pretty much like, 'fuck you' to all the gun owners out there, plus their 14 and 30 blow dicks. they aren't even as good as the shittiest, no-name brand AR you could buy.
i have the colt 6920 m4 profile.
if it were my money, it wouldnt go to anyone else other than colt or bushmaster, but that is just me.
personally, i would go with an AR15, since they are the most customizable weapon on the market. the only brands i would go with are: colt, bushmaster, rock river arms, and armalite.
stay away from anything ruger, because they are owned by a bunch of anti-gun nazis, who refuse to sell any more collapsable stocks or high capacity magazines for their firearms. they are pretty much like, 'fuck you' to all the gun owners out there, plus their 14 and 30 blow dicks. they aren't even as good as the shittiest, no-name brand AR you could buy.
i have the colt 6920 m4 profile.
if it were my money, it wouldnt go to anyone else other than colt or bushmaster, but that is just me.
Buddy_Christ
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you'll spend almost twice as much for a decent AR than you will for an AK. there's a lot more stuff availible for AKs than ARs because there's so damn many of them out there.
plus you can abuse an AK to hell and back and it will still fire. saw a video a while back where they filled the reciever of an AK with sand and it STILL fired. try doing that with an AR.
i don't condone that type of abuse to a gun (and i'm sure they went through hell cleaning the AK) but that just shows you how damn reliable those things really are.
plus you can abuse an AK to hell and back and it will still fire. saw a video a while back where they filled the reciever of an AK with sand and it STILL fired. try doing that with an AR.
i don't condone that type of abuse to a gun (and i'm sure they went through hell cleaning the AK) but that just shows you how damn reliable those things really are.
Rex
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crak600 said:
That's the only reason I like AK's at all. I hate the look and feel, but they're damn reliable. That and they use a bigger caliber round which = more damage.
My brother has an AR. The night I came home from bootcamp I told him I'd show him how to do inspection arms with it. Not realizing the ceiling in my room is much shorter than the one in the squad bay I proceeded to put the muzzle through the ceiling. He said I didn't even flinch when it went in. I just finished the drill.
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Rex said:
AK-47 = 7.62x39
AK-74 = 5.56x(can't remember at the moment)
@ inspection arms through the ceiling
Rex
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crak600 said:AK-47 = 7.62x39
AK-74 = 5.56x(can't remember at the moment)
Thanks for posting the difference between the round sizes.
Did you name your rifle?
I named the one in bootcamp Cecelia for no reason. The one I used in MCT I named after my ex-gf. It reminded me of her. Both relationships only lasted a few weeks, got a few good bang sessions with both, both gave me a lot of grief, had to be by my side at all times, and finally I was glad to get rid of it and let the next guy have it.
big_bad_buff
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AK-47's are probably your best bet. good cheap rifles...get one for around $250-$400
if you want to spend about $2k-$4k grab a AR-15 http://www.tmpguns.ch/kittycat.gif might as well grap a 100 round clip too http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/beta-cmag/cmag_styer.jpg
if you want to spend about $2k-$4k grab a AR-15 http://www.tmpguns.ch/kittycat.gif might as well grap a 100 round clip too http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/beta-cmag/cmag_styer.jpg
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If you really have 2000$ to spend, then get him/her a Sig551/552. The semi-auto is sold for this price here. You basically have 3 models:
- rifle 20" barrel and side folding stock with scope mount
- Carbine, same but 16" barrel
- CQB which is 9" barrel (that's the one I own)
- rifle 20" barrel and side folding stock with scope mount
- Carbine, same but 16" barrel
- CQB which is 9" barrel (that's the one I own)
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manny78 said:
thanks for the correction Manny. i was close though
poink - yeah, AKs are dirt cheap assault rifles. if you get one from an eastern block country they're damn reliable too. they're not as accurate as an AR15 and don't have quite the range, but they'll take more of a beating and keep on firing.
bang for the buck - AK47.
bullseye shooting from 500 yards with open sights - AR15
you can "roll your own" AR15 for under $500. i've considered it, but i'd like to get an AK first.
You shit'em!! We grit'em!! Fuck em brian!!
Buddy_Christ
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WalkingBeast said:
Wrong thread there WB. Again. You really need to stop doing that you know.
crak600 said:
just get him a puppy....http://www.missionmtnnewfs.com/picts/puppyrestthum.jpgPamela said:I was going to get one for a present.
But you never know!!!
this is the one i want *hinthint*http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet/90BU29S.JPG
or in chocolate...http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/dogimages/newfoundland.jpg
canadianhitman
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A puppy is a good idea, but it's no replacement for an assault rifle. How bout' a rottweiller puppy and an AK-47? Now THAT'S the recipe for a well-defended home.
Buddy_Christ
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you're really going to go by country of manufacture, not necessarily "brand." that being said, pretty much anything made in an eastern european country is good. Russian, Hungarian, Bulgarian, Chezk, whatever. Egyptian AKs are supposed to be pretty good too, but expensive.
say no to Chinese AKs. pieces of crap. their price reflects that too.
add to this gift by including 1000 rounds of ammo (make sure it's non-corrosive). it's the right thing to do. there's a general guideline for ammo - don't buy ammo that was made in any country that pisses in their drinking water.
you can pick up 1000 rounds anywhere between $60-85 depending on where you look. last time i ordered Makarov ammo (handgun), it was $106 for 1000 rounds with free shipping. excellent price considering locally i would've spend more than double that for 1000 rounds.
say no to Chinese AKs. pieces of crap. their price reflects that too.
add to this gift by including 1000 rounds of ammo (make sure it's non-corrosive). it's the right thing to do. there's a general guideline for ammo - don't buy ammo that was made in any country that pisses in their drinking water.
you can pick up 1000 rounds anywhere between $60-85 depending on where you look. last time i ordered Makarov ammo (handgun), it was $106 for 1000 rounds with free shipping. excellent price considering locally i would've spend more than double that for 1000 rounds.
Breeze
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Lestat said:
Funny thing is, most people have no idea what they are talking about when they refer to "assault" rifles. When the assault weapons ban was passed by misguided politicians, they labeled certain weapons "assault" weapons based on cosmetic appearances alone. There are basically 3 types of firearms- automatic, semi-automatic, and single action. Automatic weapons have been illegal since the 1920's. Most assault weapons are semi automatic which means 1 shot for each trigger pull, and all semi- automatic firearms function the same. However, when you add a folding stock, pistol grip, heat shield, or other cosmetic features the gun suddenly looks "mean" and is therefore an assault weapon. My point is, so called assault weapons are no different or any more dangerous than any other semi automatic. I have 2 12 gauge shotguns, one for duck hunting and the other is a tactical "assault" shotgun for home defense. They function exactly the same, yet some would ask why I "need" the assault shotgun. I often wonder why my girlfriend needs 2,000 pairs of shoes, but I trust she knows what's best for her. I have lots of guns and I need every one of them, no explanation necessary. I'm sure most of you have noticed that our rights as citizens are getting fewer. Our government and society is all too willing to restrict our freedoms, particularly our right to keep and bear arms, in the name of safety and crime prevention. We have over 20,000 gun laws on the books in America and we have prisons for those who use firearms to commit crime. People who support gun control should think about this- Is our society safer when law abiding people own firearms or should we be unarmed and at the mercy of criminals and our own government?
Schutzhund1
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What are you planning to do with it? If you are looking for a gun that will work when other's fail, stay away from the Ruger. Magazines are junk.
Will you hunt with it? (many states don't allow huntig with .223).
Are you recoil sensitive? (short barreled .308's kick).
Do you like to shoot alot? (7.62.39 is as cheap as it gets)
Will you hunt with it? (many states don't allow huntig with .223).
Are you recoil sensitive? (short barreled .308's kick).
Do you like to shoot alot? (7.62.39 is as cheap as it gets)
Wow, PolkaJeffe or whatever the hell his name is felt it appropriate to give me red karma and call me a moron because I suggested giving a replica gun instead of a real one....
So am I to assume that you are one of the morons that thinks we all have a constitutional right to own assault rifles?
So am I to assume that you are one of the morons that thinks we all have a constitutional right to own assault rifles?
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PolfaJelfa
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Hey, read my post about liberals i will not repeat myself. I have no need. IF you want to have a conversation about the subject i will be more than happy. Pos tunder the Hey Liberals Thread or under....the WHY Firearms thread...and read my post be4 .....i dont wish to repeat myself.
AND LOOK AT THAT MAP IN MY SIGANTURE.....CRY ...CRY CRY.....
AND LOOK AT THAT MAP IN MY SIGANTURE.....CRY ...CRY CRY.....
Schutzhund1
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Actually we do have a constitutional Right to own an assault rifle (which by definition is fully automatic).
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PolfaJelfa
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The "assault rifles " these draconian laws and tyrants like letsat hope to ban ....are not automatic weapons but rather normal rifles like any other that simply look scary. They are normal rifles SEMI AUTOMATIC.
Just felt the need to educate those of you who are ignorant on the subject and do not respect the holy and almight constitution which as the founding fathers wrote was an inspiration from GOD.
Just felt the need to educate those of you who are ignorant on the subject and do not respect the holy and almight constitution which as the founding fathers wrote was an inspiration from GOD.
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Rex said:
You hunting farmland near or more brushy mountainous terrain, like the Poconos or the NorthCentral part of PA?
The Remington Model 700 in .270 is a fine shooting rifle and is a good all around gun. Its a great varmint gun, too. Ammo is a little less expensive than your .30 calibers. Same rifle in a 30-06 would be better when in the laurel. If you are going out west for Elk, I'd advise at least a .308 or better yet a .338.
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m-16 a-1 riffle light wate air cooled semmie attomatic 3 round burst 500 yards point target 1500 yards arrea target.s.p.o.r.t.s kills howaa.
Buddy_Christ
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Lestat said:
Lestat, here's the thing with assault rifles - some people think they look scary and they don't think we should own them for that reason. Just the name, assault rifle, conjures up images for some people that make them seem worse than they are. There are hunting rifles that have a further range, are more accurate, and will do more damage to the body than an assault rifle do. Take a 308 - they look like a normal hunting rifle, yet their accuracy is unreal. A friend had one, and he was pulling off awesome shots at around 1500 yards. You can not pull off distance shots with that much accuracy with an AK-47, nor with an AR-15 (civilian M-16).
It's not the guns, it's the people that own them illegally, that are the problem.
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"So am I to assume that you are one of the morons that thinks we all have a constitutional right to own assault rifles?" Lestat
Yes....just like the Dept of Justice are morons.
Just like All our forefathers are idiots and morons.
Thomas Jeferson, Patrick Henry, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, etc...are all moron and idiots.....hell they were so stupid that they built this country.....and look how terrible life is here now.......
I despise people like you with a passion and vengance....God Bless America....the land of the free...and the home of the brave.
America i love you!
We have the best constitution the best country. That is why people emigrate here from the entire world. Dont like our constitution think the constitution and the people who wrote it are idiots and arrogant.....GET THE HELL OUT OF THE UNITED STATES WHIC WAS FOUNDED UNDER GOD....the founding fathers drew their inspiration and all beleived in the almighty creator.
I will die for this country if needed and ill be dammed if someone is going to go around and call our foudning fathers...the men who died for this country, fought for this country and sacrificed for this country morons!
As Sen Zell Miller (D) ( and may i add a patriot and Democrat who is a tru American Hero) once said " if this was the midle ages i would slap you in the face with a glove and chalenge you to a duel"
Yes....just like the Dept of Justice are morons.
Just like All our forefathers are idiots and morons.
Thomas Jeferson, Patrick Henry, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, etc...are all moron and idiots.....hell they were so stupid that they built this country.....and look how terrible life is here now.......
I despise people like you with a passion and vengance....God Bless America....the land of the free...and the home of the brave.
America i love you!
We have the best constitution the best country. That is why people emigrate here from the entire world. Dont like our constitution think the constitution and the people who wrote it are idiots and arrogant.....GET THE HELL OUT OF THE UNITED STATES WHIC WAS FOUNDED UNDER GOD....the founding fathers drew their inspiration and all beleived in the almighty creator.
I will die for this country if needed and ill be dammed if someone is going to go around and call our foudning fathers...the men who died for this country, fought for this country and sacrificed for this country morons!
As Sen Zell Miller (D) ( and may i add a patriot and Democrat who is a tru American Hero) once said " if this was the midle ages i would slap you in the face with a glove and chalenge you to a duel"
Buddy_Christ
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superdave said:
me too.
Scotsman
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crak600 said:don't forget the synthetic collapsable buttstock, black synthetic forward hand grip, and the flash suppressor
I got the side fold stock and flash suppressor on mine need to get the synthetic fore grip as mine cracked a little while shooting it.
Pam, you could check out the one in my new gun post.
Cheers,
Scotsman
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airborne83
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damn.. where i come from.. its illegal to own firearms. I WANT MY GUN!
airborne83
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SE Asia, Singapore =)
tgriff
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Lestat said:
Come on man...Just because you dont agree with our constitutional right to carry and own firearms...Doesnt make everyone who does a "moron"...And Im not flaming you lestat when I say this but this is the problem with many americans...There opinions are right and anyone who is in disagreement or opposes them are complete idiots and dont know what they are talking about...Why cant we be individuals anymore...Why does everyone have to conform to someone elses ideologies or be outcasted from that circle...I dont get it...Partisian politics is ruining our country that like PJ said so many have fought to make it what it is....And I am one of those...Living amongst one another with our differences of opinions would make our country stronger rather than dividing it with our differences of opinions...Anyway, Im off my soap box...Thats my thoughts
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WANNA_B
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love them
Guvna
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Pamela said:
AK-47 .... available from junk grade to premire.
Every kid in the Middle East gets one at birth.
flex229
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For about $150 you can buy an SKS rifle. The Russian ones are the best, but the Yugoslavian ones are more plentiful and a little cheaper...Yugos are still very good rifles...
Best bang for your buck (no pun intended) is an AK-47...They're accurate, sturdy, and very reliable. you can find Romanian (called a WASR or SAR-1) AKs for around $300 that are good quality, and you can get Chinese (called a MAK-90) for around $400...these 3 are very good rifles...
If you have around $1000 to spend, you can get a Colt or Bushmaster AR-15..very accurate rifles...get this one if you really wanna make an impression.
If you got a few thousand to spend, get the guy a Steyr Aug. Very rare, but are great guns...can be found online at www.gunbroker.com or www.auctionarms.com.
Best bang for your buck (no pun intended) is an AK-47...They're accurate, sturdy, and very reliable. you can find Romanian (called a WASR or SAR-1) AKs for around $300 that are good quality, and you can get Chinese (called a MAK-90) for around $400...these 3 are very good rifles...
If you have around $1000 to spend, you can get a Colt or Bushmaster AR-15..very accurate rifles...get this one if you really wanna make an impression.
If you got a few thousand to spend, get the guy a Steyr Aug. Very rare, but are great guns...can be found online at www.gunbroker.com or www.auctionarms.com.
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PolfaJelfa
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Nice AAP!
Can you post pictures of your snake charmer. Im seriously excited about this shotgun you described...although .410 is for pussys.
Can you post pictures of your snake charmer. Im seriously excited about this shotgun you described...although .410 is for pussys.
Trojan Horse
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AR-15 baby.
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