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Assault on Fallujah has begun

4everhung said:
he Challenge - and Puzzle - of Falluja
By Ralph Kinney Bennett Published 11/08/2004

In any case, Fallujah promises to be a bloody, vicious fight. One press report led with a U.S. Marine surgeon's alleged statement that the American casualty rate "probably will reach levels not seen since Vietnam."



And, worse, they have had time to prepare -- many months in which to anticipate where and how they will meet the "crusaders" and their "apostate" Iraqi allies. They have planted explosive booby traps and rigged car bombs. They have keyed their defense to those sites which they know Americans will be reluctant to engage -- school buildings, hospitals, and of course the city's many mosques and holy sites.


A few experienced, hard-core fighters would remain to guide and goad those chosen for the slaughter. Given the nature of this kind of warfare (car and roadside bombs, suicidal snipers etc.) such a force would still be able to exact daunting casualties on U.S. and Iraqi troops.

Few problems with the above.

- There is no such thing as a Marine surgeon.

- A hospital was one of the first sites secured. Thank the stupid ass "Laws of War" that make it a pain in the ass to get clearance to attack those sites.

-What exactly is a suicidal sniper? Snipers fire accurate shots from relatively secure and hidden locations. Suicidal has nothing to do with it.
 
<b>"combined with latter statements that there were NO wmd's in iraq, means that saddam did in fact comply, and so the invasion was unwarranted."</b>

actually, he had several banned weapons and his troops were routinely firing at allied jets in the no fly zone.

the cease fire treaty was violated by the iraqis.

why do i waste my time with a troll anyway.
 
rushx79 said:
<b>"combined with latter statements that there were NO wmd's in iraq, means that saddam did in fact comply, and so the invasion was unwarranted."</b>

actually, he had several banned weapons and his troops were routinely firing at allied jets in the no fly zone.

the cease fire treaty was violated by the iraqis.

why do i waste my time with a troll anyway.
hey, genius, do you think that he was an "imminent threat" to the USA?

talk about taking your eye off the ball there, mate.
 
This is the first time I checked this thread out since it’s been up, and even though the news is showing some "sick" (as they would say) fuckng action on TV, like Rambo shit, I just knew if I clicked on the last post, it would be about the “reasons” and “proof” and “support”. man, this shits all about probable cause, that’s how run this hear :fro::Manny: :Boomstick
















































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An Editor's Son: Storming Fallujah




A former embedded reporter now finds his boy, a 19-year-old Marine, readying for the bloodiest assault of the war in Iraq. "I owe it to him to not be afraid."

By Dennis Anderson




(November 07, 2004) -- There he was on The Associated Press photo wire. My sleeping boy.

This is a frightful time to have a child in Fallujah. Iraqi, or American.

From my circle of friends, and even from the occasional editorial antagonist, sympathy and prayer have been showered on hearing any mention that my boy Garrett is with the Marines in Fallujah.

Friends pray for him. And I owe it to him to not be afraid.

Of course, he is not so much a boy now. At 19, he is all a man. Brave. Scared. Determined. Tough. Tender. He is awed by the machineries of war that surround him, and the machine of history that has carried him to this place.

Make one's living in news and you live through so many dramas and melodramas, large scale, silly, and inconsequential. And historic.

Last year, traveling across Iraq in the weeks after Baghdad was liberated, the troops I rode with as an embedded reporter stopped at 3rd Infantry Division headquarters. Satellite TV was on in the communications shack, the news filled with Scott Peterson. Did he kill his pregnant wife, Laci? The war dampened for a bit after the liberation, but festered, and soon prepared to surge with renewed violence.

In May 2003, insurgents of Fallujah were just starting to kill Americans. Our unit, 1498th Transport, got stopped a dozen miles outside Fallujah and we hunkered for the night in the date palms with tankers from 1st Armored securing our perimeter like covered wagons with 120 mm Winchesters.

We heard about more killings. The same name kept popping up: Fallujah.

It's a rat-shack town of mud-brown houses and streets with a population about the size of my town, Palmdale, California. At the end of March this year, a bridge over the Euphrates provided the lynching post for scorched and desecrated bodies of four security contractors, American hired guns guarding a convoy.

That triggered the first Marine assault on Fallujah and its sister city, Ramadi, capital of Anbar Province where most Americans are killed.

Now, my son is there. By his own volition. A Marine infantryman is a volunteer, what grunts call "high speed, hard core."

When I was watching Scott Peterson's pursuit amid preparations for deployment as an embedded journalist, my son was in high school attending the prom. A little more than a year later, in his first adult decision, he is in the gathering storm.

Every time I see the seemingly endless saga of the accused wife killer, all I can think is, "You mean this thing was going on before Baghdad fell?" The Peterson drama drones on, and in that time, a boy has grown to manhood and now stares at the dragon's teeth across the blasted, battle-scarred heath.

Last year, when Garrett was in boot camp, he wrote, "I realize by making the choice I made, I have put myself in the danger zone." A father's heart sinks. And his mother, and his step-mother, and everyone who cares about him.

As a result of telecommunications magic, I have had three telephone calls since my son's unit arrived to prepare for what appears inevitable.

"It's about as serious as it gets," he tells me. "You'll see us on TV."

Now my son, and thousands of other American sons, are gathered at the gates of this dread city. By the time you read this, it may very well have begun.

As British historian Sir John Keegan wrote in "The Face of Battle," few of us have ever been in a battle. Anyone who has escaped the lash of a major battle has no idea how fortunate their life is, veterans tell us. I believe it.

The boy I carried in my arms and spooned ice cream with at midnight is now the man lined up to battle the bombers, murderers and beheaders. Our women soldiers are also in harm's way. But the burden of an assault is for infantrymen, armor and artillery: combat arms soldiers. Grunts at the front.

On eve of battle, I see my son sleeping. His picture moved on The Associated Press and a few days ago was the "Marine Corps Times Picture of the Day." A huddle of Marines, exhausted after a night mission. And my son's angle of repose so similar to his sleepy lull on the way home from a camping trip in the Sierras.

He is all of them, to me, and all of them are our sons. They have put it all on the line for us. Like the men on D-Day, June 6, 1944. Like the men on Iwo Jima and those other
Pacific atolls.

For this father, on this smaller but dreadful D-Day's eve, my prayer is for my sleeping boy, and all the others gathered with him.

For all the ones who return, they will have done their work, so that you, and I, and everyone who voted Tuesday, will be somewhat safer in this haven we call home. This is the week we honor veterans. Pretty soon the veterans will be returning from Fallujah. If you love life, honor them.



Dennis Anderson ([email protected]) is editor of the Antelope Valley Press in Palmdale, Calif. He twice served as an embedded journalist with a local National Guard unit. This is his fourth article for E&P since the war in Iraq began.
 
Rex said:
Few problems with the above.

- There is no such thing as a Marine surgeon.

- A hospital was one of the first sites secured. Thank the stupid ass "Laws of War" that make it a pain in the ass to get clearance to attack those sites.

-What exactly is a suicidal sniper? Snipers fire accurate shots from relatively secure and hidden locations. Suicidal has nothing to do with it.
by marine surgeon,Lach Noyes,I believe it was meant a surgeon who was primarily tasked with tending to wounded marines
not sure what the point was about the hospital
as far as suicidal sniper,I think the point is given our tech edge and vast night vision ability,regardless,to take a snipe at our grunts is tantamount to a sucide mission
 
hooch said:
um...no. We invaded IRAQ because if we didn't there might be a "mushroom cloud" over an American City. Dude...seriously...wake the fuck up.
suitcase nukes
SD had the cash to acquire and I'm sure he would have
given your location
what odds would you be comfortable with?
1/50?
 
ZKaudio said:
p0ink.. the point of the inspections was to determine the existence of WMD's... well we still haven't found any and the most prestigious intelligence service in the world has even said so... I don't want to get involved in this pissing match, but if you think our foreign relations haven't suffered as a result of our inept leader...
back in the day's I sometimes would hide my stash
then couldn't find it the next day,or the day after
despite tearing my place apart
and my place wasn't that big
 
ZKaudio said:
well the 4000 or so suitcase nukes that are unaccounted for since the USSR's breakup has me sufficiently worried.
see previous post
 
big_bad_buff said:
This is the first time I checked this thread out since it’s been up, and even though the news is showing some "sick" (as they would say) fuckng action on TV, like Rambo shit, I just knew if I clicked on the last post, it would be about the “reasons” and “proof” and “support”. man, this shits all about probable cause, that’s how run this hear :fro::Manny: :Boomstick
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I read somehwere that they are bringing in those AC-130 Specters at night when its harder for the press to film them. I guess they think it would be bad PR to see them tear up a building.
The muslim paradise will be crowded this week.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm
 
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"Not sure if this is true or not but my cousin who is a Vietnam Vet said they were nicknamed "Puff the Magic Dragon".
1.) They looked like dragons billowing fire from the sky!

2.) Crewmembers (He was a gunner in one) would get a wierd "High" from the spent cartridges inside the fuselage.
3.)At night it looks like a raygun coming from the sky to the ground...sounds from a distance like a giant zipper."
 
PERFECTWORLD said:
bush outsourced it.....


I was trying to apply to Heinz company...but found out that Mrs Kerry has 90% of the company outsourced...interesting right?
;)
 
Michael Moore Accepts Distinguished Infidel Award From al-Qaeda
11/12/2004 - Matt Myford

Rotund documentary filmmaker Michael Moore accepted al-Qaeda's Distinguished Infidel award Thursday, becoming the first American to ever receive positive recognition from a terrorist organization.

The award was subtitled "To The Infidel Least Likely To Be Beheaded."

An anonymous member of al-Qaeda remarked, "God willing, this lardbutt infidel's propaganda may yet remove the dog Bush from the White House."

When told the Bush had been reelected, the terrorist said that perhaps "God must've had an off day."

Moore appeared giddy when the award was announced. "These guys just told me that they want to behead every American citizen," Moore said. "The fact that I would be the last one whose throat would be slit...I really can't tell you what an honor this is."

Other finalists for the Distinguished Infidel award included the raving, ranting, anti-American essayist Noam Chomsky and "all those infidels who make the Bush-as-Hitler floats at those protests."

It was a bittersweet ceremony in some ways. Whenever Moore would ask a terrorist, "How's Abu?" or "Did you hear from Saleed," he usually received a terse, "Americans got 'em."

Moore concluded the ceremony by announcing he's converting to Islam if the "72 virgin thing was changed to 72 hot fudge sundaes."
 
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