Arnold and gyno

[LloydChristmas]

What did the bodybuilders do before the invention of the great antiestrogens such as arimidex and nolvadex? Did bodybuilders back in the day have to have great genetics meaning they weren't prone to gyno?

Jacked

 

[pgerardone]

Good question because those old guys used a lot of d-bol and test from what I have read. I never saw any of them with gyno though. I assume they had the surgery. I know Duchaine was the one who came up with the noveldex idea but not until the '80's I think.

 

[Iron Ghost]

Makes you wonder how all these guys from the 60's and 70's view things like "youmust have whey protein powder and creatine and glutamine"blah,blah blah when these guys were still getting big on plain old milk and egg powder and dessicated liver tablets!

 

[Yellowbomber]

that why todays suplements are a big shit, they doesn't work and pro's today don't use them so much, they eat FOOD

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

Arnold and his contemporaries frequently employed cycle strategies which included tapering off, pyramiding, etc. to account for not having anti-e's (With the inclusion of anti-e's, these strategies are no longer necessary and are out-dated) Also, most of us, particularly mesomorphs, do not have tissue sensitivity to gyno (breast growth). Back then, you were usually introduced to AS if you were already a bodybuilder with promise or a top athlete, so most of those who may have been prone to gyno were never introduced like they are today. I doubt Arnold and many of the guys back then spent a lot of time worried about getting gyno.

Gyno certainly occured back then, but as it is today to some degree, Gynecomastia is a condition that is not spoken of openly. There was much less "recreational" AS use back then, and therefore, fewer guys using that had no idea what they were doing, unlike what is the case today.

 

[reconnect]

hmm anybody know how there cycles looked like??

 

[Yellowbomber]

would interest me too, anyone?

 

[nuh_mizer]

just because you CAN get gyno, doesn't mean you WILL get gyno. I doubt these guys were taking the large doses you here about now days

 

[pgerardone]

I do not think it matters if you are a mesomorph some people get gyno. Look at Dexter Jackson and Ronnie Coleman. Dexter had real bad gyno up until he turned pro when he got it cut out and Ronnie had it bad at his first O win. Just because you have good bodybuilding genetics does not mean you will not get gyno.

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

I do not think it matters if you are a mesomorph some people get gyno. Look at Dexter Jackson and Ronnie Coleman. Dexter had real bad gyno up until he turned pro when he got it cut out and Ronnie had it bad at his first O win. Just because you have good bodybuilding genetics does not mean you will not get gyno.

No, but likelihood is much greater among endomorphs as they naturally carry more bodyfat. Also, other than your opinion, what do you base your assumption on that Ronnie Coleman had Gyno? I saw his first win and it did not strike me that he had gyno.

 

[pgerardone]

No, but likelihood is much greater among endomorphs as they naturally carry more bodyfat. Also, other than your opinion, what do you base your assumption on that Ronnie Coleman had Gyno? I saw his first win and it did not strike me that he had gyno.

Are you kidding? Go back and compare his pictures from then to now. He obviously got the surgery. He had horrible gyno a few years ago.

 

[LloydChristmas]

Bumparooski!

 

[bissenmir]

thought more AS was available in the 70's and 80's because it wasn't controlled.

 

[trial0r]

heres his first olympia...i definetly see the gyno

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

Here he is guest posing at the 2001 Emeral Classic. I think he just has funky nipples, I don't know if that is necessarily gyno.

Here is another pic of him in '98 Mr. O. Gynecomastia is the formation of breast tissue in men. There isn't any breast tissue that I see, but he does have some funky, saggy nipples.

 

[liltank]

Check out Franco Colombu;s 1980 Mr O win he has a really bad case of gyno. As for cycles guys back then did not use nearly as much as guys do today.


tank

 

[Wombat]

If one can have calf implants put in many years ago, gyno surgury would be nothing....

 

[Krozone]

Hmmm...

Check out Franco Colombu;s 1980 Mr O win he has a really bad case of gyno. As for cycles guys back then did not use nearly as much as guys do today.


tank

I thought that Arnold won the 1980 IFBB Mr. Olympia?
That was his last win, was it not?

Kro!
"The Old Monitor from www.ugsupplements.com"

 

[Panamon]

franco won the light division(or was it the short division), but arnold won the overall

 

[Japanese machine]

they had surgery; i recall seeing a pic of franco with gyno; in pumping iron it was gone. so they obviously had access to nip docs.

 

[Dr.M]

So far as what they claim, in the 60s and 70s they used only a tiny fraction of what guys are on now.

 

[shifti]

bullshit

arnold used to take 100-150 dbols a day!

 

[Dr.M]

I've never heard of such massive doses and I don't believe it for a second.

 

[AmazingCollosalMan]

i think that much will fuck up your brain

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

They did run rampid then... they were known to eat handfuls of pills saying, "It's grow time..." etc...

Arnold mostly used the injectible version of Dbol though...

 

[Smalluser]

Re: Hmmm...

I thought that Arnold won the 1980 IFBB Mr. Olympia?
That was his last win, was it not?

Kro!
"The Old Monitor from www.ugsupplements.com"

Yep Arnold won the 1980 O and Franco the 1981 O That time there was only one class.

 

[Cornellius]

Roger Walker had a big gyno going on.....they weren´t as cut as todays bbuilders, so gyno wasn´t as evident.

 

[Vectork39]

check out bautista in the previous olympia

 

[hittman]

ronnie looks sorta chubs in the above picture is he about to go mountain hiking or something those boots are cool

 

[MiniColemans]

I see Platz working out with Lee priest at my gym (golds in redondo beach,ca) and I have to say that platz is small now! he still has great legs but he looks average in a tshirt. Priest...well he's bloated with his crocodile forearms

 

[Ironhorse_m87]

they didnt suffer with gyno as much cus they didnt take as much gear todays guys are taking at least three times as much as thy were, not to mention all the other shit todays badboys take.