arimidex question

[rayzor]

im doing 500 mg/week testosterone enanthate and going to kickstart it with 20 mg dbol/day for first 4 weeks. i only weigh around 170 at roughly 5 foot 10. i bought a bottle of arimidex, how much do you guys think i should do throughout the cycle? is it really necessary? ive got nolvadex on hand which ill take as soon as signs of gyno arouse at 20 mg/day until problem subsides.

 

[UA_Iron]

I'd run it at 0.5mg every day personally

do you know how sensitive you are to estrogenic side effects?

 

[rayzor]

no clue, this is my first cycle. when i was going through puberty i never had those balls in my nipples and never really had inflamed nipples. i did a cycle of m1t awhile ago with no anti e's and didnt have a problem. im well aware their not in the same ballpark but im just giving as much backround info as i can.

 

[UA_Iron]

honeslty you'd probably be fine without it. Its certainly a good thing to have on hand if you start seeing a lot of bloat which you might with the dbol.

If you start seeing bloat, getting itchy nipples or the moonface I'd take it.

So I would hold off until you see those sides and then attack it with the arimidex.

Others might have more to add to this.

 

[chris06749uk]

I would start off at 0.25mg ED.. Adex is strong stuff..

 

[rayzor]

would it be more beneficial to use it? i know it would help suppress the bloat but would it inhibit my gains at all?

 

[Paulo]

well, it will inhibit water and fat gains. So yes. that's generally why people feel it inhibits gains. In reality, as far as LBM gains, I'd say maybe 5-10%. Just a guess, however. I take .75mg ed, and stay bloat and fat gain free. However, I have a different mindset when it comes to this subject. I have the time/money/patience to gain slowly without the vicious bulking/cutter routine. So, if taking adex cost me a lb or 2, its really not a big deal.

 

[Slyder190]

honeslty you'd probably be fine without it. Its certainly a good thing to have on hand if you start seeing a lot of bloat which you might with the dbol.

If you start seeing bloat, getting itchy nipples or the moonface I'd take it.

So I would hold off until you see those sides and then attack it with the arimidex.

Others might have more to add to this.

Oh do I disagree. You should always run an anti-e IMO. ALWAYS. If you're using compounds with high conversion rates. D-bol and Test? You're talkin high odds of mad bloat.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

im doing 500 mg/week testosterone enanthate and going to kickstart it with 20 mg dbol/day for first 4 weeks. i only weigh around 170 at roughly 5 foot 10. i bought a bottle of arimidex, how much do you guys think i should do throughout the cycle? is it really necessary? ive got nolvadex on hand which ill take as soon as signs of gyno arouse at 20 mg/day until problem subsides.

i wouldn't use it, unless the nolva doesn't seem to be helping enough. You need to use the nolva first when you feel gyno symptoms coming, arimidex is powerfull stuff and not to be played with. I've used .5 eod myself when on a higher does than you, i wouldn't worry about it with your cycle.

 

[Gym Bulldog13]

im doing 500 mg/week testosterone enanthate and going to kickstart it with 20 mg dbol/day for first 4 weeks. i only weigh around 170 at roughly 5 foot 10. i bought a bottle of arimidex, how much do you guys think i should do throughout the cycle? is it really necessary? ive got nolvadex on hand which ill take as soon as signs of gyno arouse at 20 mg/day until problem subsides.

I have the same question basically as rayzor. I'm going to be taking 500mg/wk of sust and 400mg/wk of EQ. Not sure if it will be worth frontloading any or just forking out the money for the 20mg d's. Do you guys suggest anti-e's for me? I know there were mixed opinions here.

 

[ATLmuscles]

If you choose to wait for any negative signs of estrogen to appear and THEN start anti-e, you should choose the Nolva, which is an estrogen-receptor antagonist. It will have faster results then if you chose to start Armidex at that time, which is an estrogen aromatase inhibitor (Prevents aromatization of test to est) and so woulld take quite awhile to control the side effects, as your estrogen levels are already elevated.

If you start your anti-e at the begining, you could choose either.

 

[Dial_tone]

This is one of those questions you have to answer for yourself. Start with a moderate dose for 2-3 weeks; if you don't feel anything decrease it til you do then go back up.

 

[crfpilot14]

well, it will inhibit water and fat gains. So yes. that's generally why people feel it inhibits gains. In reality, as far as LBM gains, I'd say maybe 5-10%. Just a guess, however. I take .75mg ed, and stay bloat and fat gain free. However, I have a different mindset when it comes to this subject. I have the time/money/patience to gain slowly without the vicious bulking/cutter routine. So, if taking adex cost me a lb or 2, its really not a big deal.

you keep taking that much adex and you are asking for CAD and MI in the near future. you have a fasting lipid profile done recently? if not, get it asap.

 

[Paulo]

^^
I had one done back in september, three weeks after a 15 week run.
HDL 41, LDL 134, Trig 57. Not as good as it could be but not that far off from the one I had before I started. Which, if I remember correctly, was about 5-10% better.

Actually, I am about to go in for a lipid and basic hormone panel next week. I'll post up how things look and btw, I do appreciate your concerns

Contrary to popular EF opinion, Arimidex does not "kill all your estrogen". Even if you totally suppressed the aromatase, your body will still produce plenty.

But of course, its still not something to fook around with, without dilligent monitoring and observation.

 

[benny1970]

How would one know if they are taking too much a-dex? Is there any side effect that would be noticed?