Are these 2 drugs the same thing?

[Smokescreen]

Masteron and Proviron. I use Proviron all the time. Never come off. For me it does a decent job at controlling estrogen. And it helps with libido a bit.

But is Masteron MUCH BETTER than Proviron? Are they the same drug only Masteron being much more effective?

Shit! Because if it is....then I was thinking of not using proviron ever again and just sticking to Masteron Enanthate.

 

[RADAR]

Masteron and Proviron. I use Proviron all the time. Never come off. For me it does a decent job at controlling estrogen. And it helps with libido a bit.

But is Masteron MUCH BETTER than Proviron? Are they the same drug only Masteron being much more effective?

Shit! Because if it is....then I was thinking of not using proviron ever again and just sticking to Masteron Enanthate.

No they are not~!


Proviron (mesterolone)

Masteron (drostanolone propionate)




RADAR

 

[growthspurt]

Jesus, Carth! I was shocked to see this was posted by you. It had Newbie written all over it!

 

[little chris]

I heard someone else say this too. That instead of masteron just do a heavy dose of proviron. I don't believe that though. I plan on using both next summer!

 

[bigtravis]

simply. masteron is used mainly during a cutting phase. helps when dieting is crucial. proviron. helps with libido during certain cycles and can also help harden you up.

 

[Ozz2001]

Jesus, Carth! I was shocked to see this was posted by you. It had Newbie written all over it!

Just cuz you can grow and put on muscle doesnt mean you know everything in life! Hell i slab it on myself but i dont know everything either!!!
But i have bro's that point me in the right direction also, but its because of the drive and being able to actually show that i take pride in what i learn. I can show back its not a waste of there time teaching me,so i can be all that i can be! Its not what you know, but who you know! We all like to claim we know everything but the bottom line is...You can know and read all you want but if you cant put it to use your just another name on the board!!! Gitter Done Carth! They just wish they looked like us lol

 

[growthspurt]

Just cuz you can grow and put on muscle doesnt mean you know everything in life! Hell i slab it on myself but i dont know everything either!!!
But i have bro's that point me in the right direction also, but its because of the drive and being able to actually show that i take pride in what i learn. I can show back its not a waste of there time teaching me,so i can be all that i can be! Its not what you know, but who you know! We all like to claim we know everything but the bottom line is...You can know and read all you want but if you cant put it to use your just another name on the board!!! Gitter Done Carth! They just wish they looked like us lol

I wasn't cutting on Carth.....I know he's got a ton of knowledge, that's why I was suprised by the question, so relax. And I don't agree with your statement about it's not what you know, it's who. There is info and knowledge out there for us, if we take the time to look ourselves, intead of relying on everyone else. So, it's not what you know, it's what you can comprehend and retain! And as far as loking like you or Carth, I don't know or care what you look like, means jack. You read too deep into my post to carth Bro.

 

[Ozz2001]

I wasn't cutting on Carth.....I know he's got a ton of knowledge, that's why I was suprised by the question, so relax. And I don't agree with your statement about it's not what you know, it's who. There is info and knowledge out there for us, if we take the time to look ourselves, intead of relying on everyone else. So, it's not what you know, it's what you can comprehend and retain! And as far as loking like you or Carth, I don't know or care what you look like, means jack. You read too deep into my post to carth Bro.

LOl well you think what you want i am not in a pissing match! You stepped up to the plate not me! Call who you know a joke but its best to have people that know there shit leading you before you believe what you read on the net! Vets know there shit! and what works! If there wasnt so much hype on the net we would get weird posted that ppl read online and asking if there true! Now do the math and enjoy the fourm...

 

[growthspurt]

LOl well you think what you want i am not in a pissing match! You stepped up to the plate not me! Call who you know a joke but its best to have people that know there shit leading you before you believe what you read on the net! Vets know there shit! and what works! If there wasnt so much hype on the net we would get weird posted that ppl read online and asking if there true! Now do the math and enjoy the fourm...

Sorry Bro, When deciding if I'm receiving Knowledgable info on this site and others, I don't put alot of stock into the vet status! If by being a vet you mean how long somebody has been a member? Because that doesn't guarentee shit! I know a ton of people on this site that have less than 500 posts that know a great deal! I'm doing the math and you're not adding up! Are we all to assume because of your non-vet status, that you don't know shit?? Yeah, I stepped up to the plate, and all you're throwing is meat balls..........keep em coming or quit while your ahead.

 

[krishna]

I've read that masteron does not increase libido like proviron.

 

[Indy]

I've read that masteron does not increase libido like proviron.

didn't for me

 

[Smokescreen]

This is what i read on both drugs. And when I read the info, the both pretty much sound like the same drug. Well...almost. In regards to binding to SHBG, albumin, aromatase, hardening, libido etc etc.

See my sig? That is me on EQ and Proviron. Proviron seems to keep me hard and leaner. And helps control gyno. And it also helps a bit with libido. After reading the 2 links....it just seemed to me that Masteron was like Proviron. Only much more powerful.

There is a member here ( I am not going to mention his name ), and I believe he says he uses BOTH Masteron and Proviron. Didn't make much sense to me do. Since FOR ME....both drugs seem like the same shit.

Need more feedback on this. Bumpity Bump ^^^^^



http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catmast.htm

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catprov.htm

 

[FISHTALES]

proviron is harsh on the hairline no?

 

[Indy]

proviron is harsh on the hairline no?

Heard people complain about it in the past, but I have taken up to 100mg/day for 10 weeks and didn't lost a single hair, very dependant on the person and MPB susceptibility

 

[growthspurt]

Heard people complain about it in the past, but I have taken up to 100mg/day for 10 weeks and didn't lost a single hair, very dependant on the person and MPB susceptibility

Ok, So what exactly IS the best use for Proviron? I always thought of it as a PCT drug only. BUMP for other uses/benefits bros find with this drug. Sorry carth, no hijack intended.

 

[Indy]

Ok, So what exactly IS the best use for Proviron? I always thought of it as a PCT drug only. BUMP for other uses/benefits bros find with this drug. Sorry carth, no hijack intended.

Should NEVER be taken during PCT. Used during cycle to hard look as well as keeping libido in check for non-test based cycles. Proviron can also be used as a anti-estorgen in conjuction with Nolvaded it's very powerful during cycle. Besides PCT proviron can be run year around to control estrogen and heep that hard look from the low androgenic properties is pocesses. many do this to stay looking hard and lean off cycle for photo' shoots etc..

 

[DieselGunz]

Should NEVER be taken during PCT. Used during cycle to hard look as well as keeping libido in check for non-test based cycles. Proviron can also be used as a anti-estorgen in conjuction with Nolvaded it's very powerful during cycle. Besides PCT proviron can be run year around to control estrogen and heep that hard look from the low androgenic properties is pocesses. many do this to stay looking hard and lean off cycle for photo' shoots etc..

Great post, makes alot of sense

 

[Dial_tone]

I've never heard of any anti-e props from masteron nor any libido enhancement from masteron.

 

[little chris]

didn't for me

How were the results with masteron when you used it? how much did you use?

 

[Slyder190]

Carth, this HRT and Proviron you keep yourself on and what not, is this under a doctor's supervision, or are you throwing caution to the wind? Just curious, cuz if it's all you, you should take a step back for a minute.

 

[Smokescreen]

Carth, this HRT and Proviron you keep yourself on and what not, is this under a doctor's supervision, or are you throwing caution to the wind? Just curious, cuz if it's all you, you should take a step back for a minute.

Bro...I get more blood work here than anybody else does on this board. Everything always comes out....OK. Not great! Because in all honesty....not even a person that eats well and doesn't juice won't come out with GREAT blood work results.

 

[DieselGunz]

Bro...I get more blood work here than anybody else does on this board. Everything always comes out....OK. Not great! Because in all honesty....not even a person that eats well and doesn't juice won't come out with GREAT blood work results.

Carth how many times you do blood work?

Do you do it on and off cycle to find out the change?

 

[Smokescreen]

Carth how many times you do blood work?

Do you do it on and off cycle to find out the change?

I never come off. That is why I get blood work maybe once every 3 months. Or when i want to do experiments on myself. Like for example to see if Nolvadex really does lower IGF-1. Which it does!!!!

And if Indy gets to read this....Bro. I did blood work again. And yes! Aromasin does lower IGF-1 by a shit load!!! It dropped my IGF-1 levels to almost 50%!!!!

I guess it is only good to use Aromasin IF you plan on using higher amounts of exogenous GH. And I do mean HIGHER AMOUNTS!