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ARE the SATS still needed

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Critics say high school grades better reflect a student's ability and they say the SAT is culturally and class-biased. Supporters say the SAT acts as a national yardstick and is a hedge against grade inflation

Do we really need the SATS anymore...
 
read the book 'standardized minds'. it says that standardized tests do the opposite of what they claim to do.

(yay for remote memory) SAT's are only 14% reliable when it comes to how a student will do in college. high school grades are the best yardstick.

how have you been, btw. anything new on the horizon.
 
of course you need them. grades dont mean shit. i could get straight a+'s if i went to a school that was composed of mainly black people. grades differ in schools and also you could get fucked and have a hard teacher that fucks you over with grades. the sat's are the same all over so its a much better measuring stick.
 
Speaking of school...Nordstrom

I have three weeks of hell comming up...just to grad. this spring

due to a certain female...I now have left myself three weeks in order to due a semesters worth of work...

should be fun...ill still bust out the gym six times a week

thanks buddy
 
im thinking of trying a smart drug combo for when classes start this january. of course you have to fuck around to get the doses right, so i doubt you'd have time to figure out how much you need to maximize memory & concentration.

piracetam
choline
hydergine

all 3 complement each other. http://www.ceri.com/noot.htm
 
Lol... of course SAT scores are more "culturally biased" than high school grades. Stupid ass kid takes same SAT as smart ass kid. Stupid ass kid, however, takes different high school tests than smart ass kid because stupid ass kid goes to stupid ass school.

The point of the SAT is to measure who the stupid ass is. How are we to know who the stupid ass is if we base stupidassness on grades obtained from school's designed to be easy for the stupid ass?

-Warik
 
Warik said:
Lol... of course SAT scores are more "culturally biased" than high school grades. Stupid ass kid takes same SAT as smart ass kid. Stupid ass kid, however, takes different high school tests than smart ass kid because stupid ass kid goes to stupid ass school.

The point of the SAT is to measure who the stupid ass is. How are we to know who the stupid ass is if we base stupidassness on grades obtained from school's designed to be easy for the stupid ass?

-Warik

some stupid ass kid takes the same SAT as a smart ass kid.

not

Stupid ass kid takes same SAT as smart ass kid.


stupid asses are.

not

not stupid ass is.



stupidassness is not a word


SAT's, and standardized test usually do no better than chance when it comes to determining who is qualified & who isn't. you might as well flip a coin.
 
"of course you need them. grades don't mean shit. I could get straight a+'S if I went to a school that was composed of mainly black people"


Why do idiots always have to bring race into something?Tell me what you would you learn if you went to a school composed of mainly blacks?

Memorization of material doesn't make you smart, I find people with common sense to be on a higher level then a person who can memorized stuff.
 
ssj-hawk said:
"of course you need them. grades don't mean shit. I could get straight a+'S if I went to a school that was composed of mainly black people"


Why do idiots always have to bring race into something?Tell me what you would you learn if you went to a school composed of mainly blacks?

Memorization of material doesn't make you smart, I find people with common sense to be on a higher level then a person who can memorized stuff.

if you went to a school composed of mainly blacks you would probably learn a lot less because you would be busy dodging bullets and fried chicken wings and the teachers would most likely dumb down the material so kids could pass.

who said anything about memorization of material? why are you so impressed by common sense? if it was anything special then it wouldnt be called "common". maybe you should be more impressed by creative thinking and problem solving than common sense.
 
ok, well when you come from under your little rock..Then we can talk.

Heh, and i know you don't want to bring up the issue of shootings at schools.
 
ssj-hawk said:
ok, well when you come from under your little rock..Then we can talk

its a big fucking rock bitch!! continue worshipping common sense and see how far it can get you.
 
the SAT's do EXACTLY what they claim to do: predict the level of success a person will have in college.

the SAT does NOT measure intelligence.
 
ssj-hawk said:
you should worship it, since you lack it.. lol

i just had to throw that in there.. it was a joke tho

common sense is for chicks cause all they need to do is cook and clean and raise babies and shit. thats common sense. people who want people to actually think they are intelligent need to go beyond common sense. i dont see why you respect common sense so much.
 
StoneColdGold said:
the SAT's do EXACTLY what they claim to do: predict the level of success a person will have in college.

the SAT does NOT measure intelligence.

i would say the opposite is true. i dont see a good score on the sat's means that you will do good in college. i think thats bullshit. smart people do better on the sat's. however people who work harder and study and shit can do better in college.
 
you don't know how to piss people off moneybags.

can i offer some advice?


come back as NAMBLAMAN
this racial shit just doesn't cut it anymore.
 
MoneyBags said:


i would say the opposite is true. i dont see a good score on the sat's means that you will do good in college. i think thats bullshit. smart people do better on the sat's. however people who work harder and study and shit can do better in college.

a person who works harder and studies will score comparably with a person who just has smarts.

i agree that just because you're smart doesn't mean you will get good grades. but it happens far more often than not. if you are betting on money on who will get better grades in college... you bet on the kid with the 1400 before the kid with the 1100. this, of course, takes into account that the kid with the better score will be going to a more difficult academic institution.
 
"a person who works harder and studies will score comparably with a person who just has smarts."

Isn't this really one in the same? I mean how do you become so called "smart" if you don't work hard and study? Now I know everybody may have their definition as to what working hard is.

Even a genius has to pick up a book, right Warik!
 
School is alot easier than the SATs. I got very good grades in high school by doing the very minimum. There was no reason to do more than I had to.. an A is an A.

However with the SATs, you have to study your ass off AND actually be somewhat smart to get a perfect score. Its actually something to strive for.. unlike the easy A's of high school. High school is a joke when it comes to academics.
 
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