Are Gains from Steroids only Temporary?

[bogenjager]

I have seen many at the gym go on a cycle, increase their muscle mass considerably, only to lose it all once they go off cycle and they were using proper PCT.

I have tried a couple of cycles over the years and have experienced similar results; if you wait long enough you return to normal. The only thing that may have improved is that it broke me through plateaus to help me continue to grow a bit naturally.

Talking with a few elite trainers that used to be heavy weight bodybuilders, they say you can't keep anything and anabolics only induce hypertrophy while on cycle.

So my question is, is there any point using anabolic steroids for permanent muscle gain?

 

[wootoom]

For me they were permanent...that's why PCT is so important and well prepared cycling.

 

[bogenjager]

For me they were permanent...that's why PCT is so important and well prepared cycling.

Out of curiosity what do you typically use for PCT?

 

[bigbassturd]

You are as big as you eat.

If you are 220 and run a cycle and then weigh 230, you can't keep eating like you did when you were 220 or you will go right back to that size.

AAS work, but they aren't magic.

 

[bogenjager]

You are as big as you eat.

If you are 220 and run a cycle and then weigh 230, you can't keep eating like you did when you were 220 or you will go right back to that size.

AAS work, but they aren't magic.

Eating could be an issue for those who are naturally thin with high metabolisms. I just quickly get fat if my calories are even slightly elevated even on cycle.

 

[bigbassturd]

So does everyone else if they eat a bunch of shit foods.

3000 calories of pizza and fried chicken is a lot different than 3000 calories of healthy whole foods.

 

[RickRock13]

When you come off of cycle, you won't be able yo maintain the same strength, hardness, and fullness that you did on cycle with sky high hormones. Normal range of test just can't compete with 10 times that.....that much is true.

However, a well planned PCT and good diet/training can allow you to recover quickly and retain most of the strength and muscle gained on cycle.

Cycling will always be two steps forward, and one step back. That is just part of the game.

 

[melochai]

When you come off of cycle, you won't be able yo maintain the same strength, hardness, and fullness that you did on cycle with sky high hormones. Normal range of test just can't compete with 10 times that.....that much is true.

However, a well planned PCT and good diet/training can allow you to recover quickly and retain most of the strength and muscle gained on cycle.

Cycling will always be two steps forward, and one step back. That is just part of the game.

Well said, very well said.

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[bonacris]

How much weigh that people put on is lean muscle.. my 1st ever cycle I gained about 35lbs and keep around 15lbs because all the rest was water.. the majority of weight you see your average gym user gain on a cycle is water and fat..

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[-SD-]

I would say maintaining your diet is key like bigbass mentioned. The minute i let my diet slack is the minute my body wants to go back to how it was before the gains. You have to change the mindset regarding your diet because extra mass requires extra food pretty much forever.