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Are flyes necesary in bench routine, because.....

amnbaker said:
I like to starrt out with 3 Sets of Heavy DB flys....Within the 12 rep Range. To PRE-EXHAUST my pecs. This way by the time I move on to the INCLINE PRESSES next..I tend to use ALOT more pec and not as much Tri\Front delt as I usuall would...Works great, i'm seeing good growth too.

Your right about using flys to pre-exhaust. I did that for a while and found it a good idea. Same with starting off with dips but you need to lean foward and tuck your chin in. You can't lift as much when you bench but I think your pecs do much more of the work if you pre exhaust the other muscles that help the chest. The dips will also give your chest a more square look.
 
I may give some of the preexhaustion methods a try here in a little while.......right now im just working on getting some strength back and felt flyes were a waste of time for what I was trying to do. Thanks for the input.
 
rsnoble-im-back said:
after I do 3 sets of bench, 2sets of incline, 3 sets of flat dumbell, and 2-3 sets of incline dumbell, all sets of max effort.........there is literally no energy left for flyes and it almost seems like it's a waste of time. So today I didn't do them, I felt complete muscle exhausted and felt anymore would be overdoing it.

Right now im just trying to regain strength. You really think flyes worth it?? Im not using any hardcore "help" btw.........so it's not like I can train like an animal and not suffer the consequences as much.
I'll join the club and say Hell No.
 
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