Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

[Sub-Zero]

Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

im pretty unhappy in my major, and im so increadibly passionate about all aspects of the iron world. bodybuilding, powerlifting, strongman, sports training, everything, even the business side of it such as gym ownership, fitness equipment production and distrubution, and all aspects.

if there is anyone who posts here and is willing to help me out in just PMing or discussing back and forth in some form or another, their path in life, and how they do financially and how they rate their success and how they achieved it, (such as college courses, degrees, possible contacts, even job opportunities- anything as much or as little that can help me achieve my dreams of finding a job in the field of iron)...

some possible career options iv been considering and trying to find out more about are stuff like sports team weight training, sports rehab, and on the more juicer side of things, even endocrinology.

if anyone can give any advice, help, or just discussion to help me find my path in life that leads to my desired goal of being able to make a living off something i love, please PM me or just let me know on here or whatever.

thanks yal

 

[calveless wonder]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

def don't be a personal trainer............
they make shit even w/ a full book of business, and that in itself is not an easy task. on top of that the client turnaround is fairly frequent w/ a few exceptions, so you constantly have to attract new clients. Unless of course you're a trainer to the stars or some super exclusive clientele

nutritionists can make some decent coin if i'm not mistaken...and professional strength trainers etc can do alright, but again, depends on who you're servicing.

 

[sixxtoes]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Physical therapy

 

[PICK3]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

porn fluffer

 

[avidinternet]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Richard Simmons

 

[javaguru]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

porn fluffer

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

I'm in this industry and can give you all sorts of info from a variety of angles. But you're gonna have to wait til tomorrow as I need to shower and head out...

 

[javaguru]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

im pretty unhappy in my major, and im so increadibly passionate about all aspects of the iron world. bodybuilding, powerlifting, strongman, sports training, everything, even the business side of it such as gym ownership, fitness equipment production and distrubution, and all aspects.

if there is anyone who posts here and is willing to help me out in just PMing or discussing back and forth in some form or another, their path in life, and how they do financially and how they rate their success and how they achieved it, (such as college courses, degrees, possible contacts, even job opportunities- anything as much or as little that can help me achieve my dreams of finding a job in the field of iron)...

some possible career options iv been considering and trying to find out more about are stuff like sports team weight training, sports rehab, and on the more juicer side of things, even endocrinology.

if anyone can give any advice, help, or just discussion to help me find my path in life that leads to my desired goal of being able to make a living off something i love, please PM me or just let me know on here or whatever.

thanks yal

Find a niche....and market like a bastard....For example, trainers for celebs and pro athletes make bank.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

Find a niche....and market like a bastard....For example, trainers for celebs and pro athletes make bank.

yeah or like a trainer for a sports team or something.

im not even trying to be rich, just sucessful in that i can afford to keep lifting and eating how i do, while being self sufficient and having internet, cable, a few nice things, and a comfortable place to live

edit: althoguh nobody would ever complain about being wealthy...

 

[javaguru]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

yeah or like a trainer for a sports team or something.

im not even trying to be rich, just sucessful in that i can afford to keep lifting and eating how i do, while being self sufficient and having internet, cable, a few nice things, and a comfortable place to live

edit: althoguh nobody would ever complain about being wealthy...

Athletes and celebrities tend to be motivated. As a normal trainer, 90% of your clients will be fat ass soccer moms looking for an easy way to lose weight and doing as little as possible to achieve their goal.

 

[avidinternet]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Why not try and be rich...?

You're to young to set your expectations low.

Try and be rich and make it happen, that's how it works and happens

 

[Smurfy]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

yeah or like a trainer for a sports team or something.

im not even trying to be rich, just sucessful in that i can afford to keep lifting and eating how i do, while being self sufficient and having internet, cable, a few nice things, and a comfortable place to live

edit: althoguh nobody would ever complain about being wealthy...

exercise science/kinesiology

UMD has a Kinesiology Degree
http://www.hhp.umd.edu/KNES/

 

[jackangel]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

help brad pitt juice responsibly for his next flick

 

[Raptorex]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

exercise science/kinesiology

UMD has a Kinesiology Degree
http://www.hhp.umd.edu/KNES/

^^^
Smurf is correct

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Why not try and be rich...?

You're to young to set your expectations low.

Try and be rich and make it happen, that's how it works and happens

i wanna be rich and make it happen, but id rather be moderately well off in a profession i love that i wake up wanting to do, than work my ass off for something i fucking hate just so i can sit on a fat wallet

 

[crazyjoe]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Physical therapy

So whats an average physical therapist make? What schooling would that take? I'm looking at making a total career change, that's why I ask.

 

[crazyjoe]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

i wanna be rich and make it happen, but id rather be moderately well off in a profession i love that i wake up wanting to do, than work my ass off for something i fucking hate just so i can sit on a fat wallet

fuckin word brotha!

 

[javaguru]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

So whats an average physical therapist make? What schooling would that take? I'm looking at making a total career change, that's why I ask.

It depends on your market and what you do......work with athletes and you'll make bank...work with old people and you'll make around 40k a year for a hard ass program and all the student loan debt.....

 

[avidinternet]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

i wanna be rich and make it happen, but id rather be moderately well off in a profession i love that i wake up wanting to do, than work my ass off for something i fucking hate just so i can sit on a fat wallet

Exactly, so work for yourself doing what you love and you can still sit on that fat wallet while being happy.

Any way you look at it you still have to make it all happen.

 

[javaguru]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

Exactly, so work for yourself doing what you love and you can still sit on that fat wallet while being happy.

Any way you look at it you still have to make it all happen.

Thanks Tony Robbins....

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Exactly, so work for yourself doing what you love and you can still sit on that fat wallet while being happy.

Any way you look at it you still have to make it all happen.

precisely why im taking a step back and reconsidering my choices and need to start working at something i like enough to make it happen

 

[avidinternet]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

Thanks Tony Robbins....

Not Tony Robbins, just sayin that if you work as a drone for someone else they get rich and you get a paycheck.

Not so common sense unfortunately

 

[javaguru]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

Not Tony Robbins, just sayin that if you work as a drone for someone else they get rich and you get a paycheck.

Not so common sense unfortunately

Best way to get rich.....start a business....

 

[crazyjoe]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

exercise science/kinesiology

UMD has a Kinesiology Degree
http://www.hhp.umd.edu/KNES/

What kind of money do they make?

 

[avidinternet]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

Best way to get rich.....start a business....

No, most businesses go out of business quickly.

 

[javaguru]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

No, most businesses go out of business quickly.

and most people change careers numerous times....Ross Perot went bankrupt several times before hitting the mark.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

What kind of money do they make?

it reallly depends on how much you can attract clientelle or what you do with the degree like java said,

personally im gunna try and finish out my undergrad in what im doing now (bio-engineering) and then specialize into sports medicine or somethign in grad school (hopefully). this way i can milk more money with the titles and degrees i get.

but i need start looking into making contacts and just talkign with people who took similar paths so i know what to expect, look for, deal with, try and achieve, etc, or anything that could help me. my family is all academics and dont even know where to begin when it comes to helping me out with this kinda shit so im on my own and trying to talk to as many people as are willing to talk with me about it

 

[crazyjoe]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

it reallly depends on how much you can attract clientelle or what you do with the degree like java said,

personally im gunna try and finish out my undergrad in what im doing now (bio-engineering) and then specialize into sports medicine or somethign in grad school (hopefully). this way i can milk more money with the titles and degrees i get.

but i need start looking into making contacts and just talkign with people who took similar paths so i know what to expect, look for, deal with, try and achieve, etc, or anything that could help me. my family is all academics and dont even know where to begin when it comes to helping me out with this kinda shit so im on my own and trying to talk to as many people as are willing to talk with me about it

Fuck me! You sound like you got your head on straight bro. I fucked up big time at your age, and now I'm sort of in the same boat. I want to change fields completely, and get into something in the medical or fitness field. I just have alot of worries about going about it. You sound pretty smart aside from the weed j/k.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

Fuck me! You sound like you got your head on straight bro. I fucked up big time at your age, and now I'm sort of in the same boat. I want to change fields completely, and get into something in the medical or fitness field. I just have alot of worries about going about it. You sound pretty smart aside from the weed j/k.

what kind of worries? all i do is worry about shit, im a worryer not a doer, and thats something i need to change, big time

 

[avidinternet]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

personally im gunna try and finish out my undergrad in what im doing now (bio-engineering) and then specialize into sports medicine or somethign in grad school (hopefully). this way i can milk more money with the titles and degrees i get.
but i need start looking into making contacts and just talkign with people who took similar paths so i know what to expect, look for, deal with, try and achieve, etc, or anything that could help me. my family is all academics and dont even know where to begin when it comes to helping me out with this kinda shit so im on my own and trying to talk to as many people as are willing to talk with me about it

See right here you are wasting time and money and potential income revenue for several years that could get you ahead in the game.

Not to mention debt that you will rack up with the education bills.( before anyone starts, I did go to and complete college)

But it's good you are trying to figure it all out for yourself. Kudos to you for that.

Family is an invaluable asset when planning your future and how to navigate in the financial world.

My family talked about business with us our whole life so we grew up knowing that we could make it on our own and that we have to be able to depend on ourselves in order to make any real bank.

But a lifetime of financial wisdom cannot be shared in a post.

The yourself thing is seriously true advice and not meant as a pep talk.

 

[Dial_tone]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

I would look into college strength coach. See if you can do some work with the athletic teams now and get a idea what its like.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

See right here you are wasting time and money and potential income revenue for several years that could get you ahead in the game.

Not to mention debt that you will rack up with the education bills.( before anyone starts, I did go to and complete college)

But it's good you are trying to figure it all out for yourself. Kudos to you for that.

Family is an invaluable asset when planning your future and how to navigate in the financial world.

My family talked about business with us our whole life so we grew up knowing that we could make it on our own and that we have to be able to depend on ourselves in order to make any real bank.

But a lifetime of financial wisdom cannot be shared in a post.

The yourself thing is seriously true advice and not meant as a pep talk.

the degrees and schooling is paid for by my parents, and done for my parents. they want me to be educated and go through the school systems, and they support me financially, so that is what im doing. and i think your at least partially wrong that having a respected degree and taking time in schooling is a waste. at the very least, i will be able to learn more, know more, and i feel it will help me to do more.

there are certain fields you just CANT go into without a degree, such as sports medicine and physical therapy type jobs.

now adays a college degree is like having a highschool degree. its just expected and necessary, unless you are starting a new business or marketing a new idea, etc
can you elaborate on why you feel schooling is a waste of time? (im extremely lucky in that i will be debt free, at least for undergrad)

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

I would look into college strength coach. See if you can do some work with the athletic teams now and get a idea what its like.

this is exactly one of the things iv been looking into. i visited a friend recently who works out with an ex college strength coach who now trains on his own mostly for up and coming highschool athletes, and some college athletes train with him over the summer too. his job was fucking amazing to me and im going to hopefully be talking with him more, and if everything works out in my favor, doing an internship with him.

i didnt play any football in highschool or college though and im wondering if thats something that will have me taken less seriously when it comes to athletic strength coaching

 

[crazyjoe]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

what kind of worries? all i do is worry about shit, im a worryer not a doer, and that's something i need to change, big time

I'm the same way. As for worries, if I do go to school for something, I'm worried about not being able to pass tests because I've always done horrible on them, thus leading to failing classes. What the hell I would do for work while going to school. Wondering if what I go to school for will be the right thing. Just allot of different shit.

 

[samoth]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

If you're interested in endocrinology, you'd better hit the premed route quick. It's pretty much a MD/PhD specialty, very intense and long. But BIGMEDICINE pays more than BIGLAW, so it's quite prestigious. Just fucking competitive as hell.

That's all I can really help with here.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

I'm the same way. As for worries, if I do go to school for something, I'm worried about not being able to pass tests because I've always done horrible on them, thus leading to failing classes. What the hell I would do for work while going to school. Wondering if what I go to school for will be the right thing. Just allot of different shit.

yeah same, i was a wiz in highschool and would study my ass off in college and know everything only to just completely fuck up on the tests and get them back and have no idea why the fuck i wrote or did what i did.

at some point tho we gotta stop worrying and just do, and take a risk, its easier for me to say since im younger and supported by my parents, but we should keep in contact with eachother and help eachother out and give eachother status updates, since we both seem to have similar goals

 

[samoth]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Wikipedia article on endocrinology as a profession:


Endocrinology as a profession

Although every organ system secretes and responds to hormones (including the brain, lungs, heart, intestine, skin, and the kidney), the clinical specialty of endocrinology focuses primarily on the endocrine organs, meaning the organs whose primary function is hormone secretion. These organs include the pituitary, thyroid, adrenals, ovaries, testes, and pancreas.

An endocrinologist is a doctor who specializes in treating disorders of the endocrine system, such as diabetes, hyperthyroidism, and many others (see list of diseases below).

Work
The medical specialty of endocrinology involves the diagnostic evaluation of a wide variety of symptoms and variations and the long-term management of disorders of deficiency or excess of one or more hormones.

The diagnosis and treatment of endocrine diseases are guided by laboratory tests to a greater extent than for most specialties. Many diseases are investigated through excitation/stimulation or inhibition/suppression testing. This might involve injection with a stimulating agent to test the function of an endocrine organ. Blood is then sampled to assess the changes of the relevant hormones or metabolites. An endocrinologist needs extensive knowledge of clinical chemistry and biochemistry to understand the uses and limitations of the investigations.

A second important aspect of the practice of endocrinology is distinguishing human variation from disease. Atypical patterns of physical development and abnormal test results must be assessed as indicative of disease or not. Diagnostic imaging of endocrine organs may reveal incidental findings called incidentalomas, which may or may not represent disease.

Endocrinology involves caring for the person as well as the disease. Most endocrine disorders are chronic diseases that need life-long care. Some of the most common endocrine diseases include diabetes mellitus, hypothyroidism and the metabolic syndrome. Care of diabetes, obesity and other chronic diseases necessitates understanding the patient at the personal and social level as well as the molecular, and the physician-patient relationship can be an important therapeutic process.

Apart from treating patients, many endocrinologists are involved in clinical science and medical research, teaching, and hospital management.


Training
There are roughly 7,000 to 8,000 endocrinologists in the United States. Endocrinologists are specialists of internal medicine or pediatrics. Reproductive endocrinologists deal primarily with problems of fertility and menstrual function - often training first in obstetrics. Most qualify as an internist, pediatrician, or gynecologist for a few years before specializing, depending on the local training system. In the U.S. and Canada, training for board certification in internal medicine, pediatrics, or gynecology after medical school is called residency. Further formal training to subspecialize in adult, pediatric, or reproductive endocrinology is called a fellowship. Typical training for a North American endocrinologist involves 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, 3 years of residency, and 3 years of fellowship. Adult endocrinologists are board certified by the American Board of Internal Medicine (ABIM) in Endocrinology, Diabetes and Metabolism.


Professional organizations
In North America the principal professional organizations of endocrinologists include The Endocrine Society,[12] the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists,[13] the American Diabetes Association,[14] the Lawson Wilkins Pediatric Endocrine Society,[15] and the American Thyroid Association.[16]

In the United Kingdom, the Society for Endocrinology[17] and the British Society for Paediatric Endocrinology and Diabetes[18] are the main professional organisations. The European Society for Paediatric Endocrinology[19] is the largest international professional association dedicated solely to paediatric endocrinology. There are numerous similar associations around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocrinologist#Endocrinology_as_a_profession

Hope that helps a bit with a brief overview of that area. Highly prestigious.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Wikipedia article on endocrinology as a profession:


Endocrinology as a profession

Although every organ system secretes and responds to hormones (including the brain, lungs, heart, intestine, skin, and the kidney), the clinical specialty of endocrinology focuses primarily on the endocrine organs, meaning the organs whose primary function is hormone secretion. These organs include the pituitary, thyroid, adrenals, ovaries, testes, and pancreas.

An endocrinologist is a doctor who specializes in treating disorders of the endocrine system, such as diabetes, hyperthyroidism, and many others (see list of diseases below).

Work
The medical specialty of endocrinology involves the diagnostic evaluation of a wide variety of symptoms and variations and the long-term management of disorders of deficiency or excess of one or more hormones.

The diagnosis and treatment of endocrine diseases are guided by laboratory tests to a greater extent than for most specialties. Many diseases are investigated through excitation/stimulation or inhibition/suppression testing. This might involve injection with a stimulating agent to test the function of an endocrine organ. Blood is then sampled to assess the changes of the relevant hormones or metabolites. An endocrinologist needs extensive knowledge of clinical chemistry and biochemistry to understand the uses and limitations of the investigations.

A second important aspect of the practice of endocrinology is distinguishing human variation from disease. Atypical patterns of physical development and abnormal test results must be assessed as indicative of disease or not. Diagnostic imaging of endocrine organs may reveal incidental findings called incidentalomas, which may or may not represent disease.

Endocrinology involves caring for the person as well as the disease. Most endocrine disorders are chronic diseases that need life-long care. Some of the most common endocrine diseases include diabetes mellitus, hypothyroidism and the metabolic syndrome. Care of diabetes, obesity and other chronic diseases necessitates understanding the patient at the personal and social level as well as the molecular, and the physician-patient relationship can be an important therapeutic process.

Apart from treating patients, many endocrinologists are involved in clinical science and medical research, teaching, and hospital management.


Training
There are roughly 7,000 to 8,000 endocrinologists in the United States. Endocrinologists are specialists of internal medicine or pediatrics. Reproductive endocrinologists deal primarily with problems of fertility and menstrual function - often training first in obstetrics. Most qualify as an internist, pediatrician, or gynecologist for a few years before specializing, depending on the local training system. In the U.S. and Canada, training for board certification in internal medicine, pediatrics, or gynecology after medical school is called residency. Further formal training to subspecialize in adult, pediatric, or reproductive endocrinology is called a fellowship. Typical training for a North American endocrinologist involves 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, 3 years of residency, and 3 years of fellowship. Adult endocrinologists are board certified by the American Board of Internal Medicine (ABIM) in Endocrinology, Diabetes and Metabolism.


Professional organizations
In North America the principal professional organizations of endocrinologists include The Endocrine Society,[12] the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists,[13] the American Diabetes Association,[14] the Lawson Wilkins Pediatric Endocrine Society,[15] and the American Thyroid Association.[16]

In the United Kingdom, the Society for Endocrinology[17] and the British Society for Paediatric Endocrinology and Diabetes[18] are the main professional organisations. The European Society for Paediatric Endocrinology[19] is the largest international professional association dedicated solely to paediatric endocrinology. There are numerous similar associations around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocrinologist#Endocrinology_as_a_profession

Hope that helps a bit with a brief overview of that area. Highly prestigious.

thanks for the info man, good to know. ideally this seems like a fun job, but may be a bit too challenging for me. im gunna see how i do in my undergrad, to maybe get into med school. i know for a fact i can and will get my degree in bio engineering, but am worried i just wont be able to pull off the grades needed for medschool. i already cut back to just the weekends for my MJ smoking during the school year, but ill probably cut back even more...and find ways to be more organized and get on top of my shit. im feeling really motivated today, which i hope lasts

 

[avidinternet]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

the degrees and schooling is paid for by my parents, and done for my parents. they want me to be educated and go through the school systems, and they support me financially, so that is what im doing. and i think your at least partially wrong that having a respected degree and taking time in schooling is a waste. at the very least, i will be able to learn more, know more, and i feel it will help me to do more.

there are certain fields you just CANT go into without a degree, such as sports medicine and physical therapy type jobs.

now adays a college degree is like having a highschool degree. its just expected and necessary, unless you are starting a new business or marketing a new idea, etc
can you elaborate on why you feel schooling is a waste of time? (im extremely lucky in that i will be debt free, at least for undergrad)

Because time is money. Money that you are not earning and time that you are wasting whilst treading water in the schooling system giving them your parents money. (That is the schooling systems business see...)

My parents paid for my education too and I went because they wanted me to as well, just like you are doing. Unless you are going to be a Doctor or a Lawyer etc. school is largely a waste of time as you will probably never actually use what you learn there.

If you started making money today and kept accumulating wealth and compounding it the entire time you plan on spending in school, what do you think your financial statement would look like at that same point and time in the future when you are done with school and have no assets?

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

Because time is money. Money that you are not earning and time that you are wasting whilst treading water in the schooling system giving them your parents money. (That is the schooling systems business see...)

My parents paid for my education too and I went because they wanted me to as well, just like you are doing. Unless you are going to be a Doctor or a Lawyer etc. school is largely a waste of time as you will probably never actually use what you learn there.

If you started making money today and kept accumulating wealth and compounding it the entire time you plan on spending in school, what do you think your financial statement would look like at that same point and time in the future when you are done with school and have no assets?

i see what your saying but luckily as long as i apply myself and work hard, my parents will be willing to support me.

which leaves me to only be concerned with finding something i want to/love to do and once i find it, then start making money and supporting myself.

 

[calveless wonder]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

Because time is money. Money that you are not earning and time that you are wasting whilst treading water in the schooling system giving them your parents money. (That is the schooling systems business see...)

My parents paid for my education too and I went because they wanted me to as well, just like you are doing. Unless you are going to be a Doctor or a Lawyer etc. school is largely a waste of time as you will probably never actually use what you learn there.

If you started making money today and kept accumulating wealth and compounding it the entire time you plan on spending in school, what do you think your financial statement would look like at that same point and time in the future when you are done with school and have no assets?

wise woman (alter)

time is definetely money, and most people waste their time in school for something that has little or no bearing in life. Half the time they're buried in student loans they can't even repay.

my belief, unless you're an engineer or sorts(something that requires EXTREME expertise)....doctor or lawyer, then school is a joke. The other exception being those who are going to top 20 schools w/ a 4.0 GPA that can get recruited by all the top business firms.
even then, they still have to deal with the bullshit corporate world.

i believe you can make money in any industry you are in and be successful financially if you find the correct niche. It's just a matter of how much you want it and how far you take it. Some careers/industries easier and quicker than others

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

wise woman (alter)

time is definetely money, and most people waste their time in school for something that has little or no bearing in life. Half the time they're buried in student loans they can't even repay.

my belief, unless you're an engineer or sorts(something that requires EXTREME expertise)....doctor or lawyer, then school is a joke. The other exception being those who are going to top 20 schools w/ a 4.0 GPA that can get recruited by all the top business firms.
even then, they still have to deal with the bullshit corporate world.

i believe you can make money in any industry you are in and be successful financially if you find the correct niche. It's just a matter of how much you want it and how far you take it. Some careers/industries easier and quicker than others

at this point in my life dropping out of college is not an option

 

[avidinternet]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Ok, don't say I didn't try and warn you...

BTW chicks like guys with bank not guys living in their parents basements don't end up as that guy

 

[calveless wonder]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

at this point in my life dropping out of college is not an option

not saying you should. a degree is a good thing, just in case, to have especially if your parents are paying your way.

right now, with the way my industry is...i kind of wish i had a degree. i could have gotten a 4.0 in school i was interested (in fact, when i planned on being a lawyer...i did, and then i just fucked around after i decided i didnt want to wait till 26-27 to start seeing any money)

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Ok, don't say I didn't try and warn you...

BTW chicks like guys with bank not guys living in their parents basements don't end up as that guy

i appreciate your advice, but it just isnt something i can take, in terms of not going through schooling.

 

[avidinternet]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Calveless wonder Gets "IT"...

Not an alter damn it!

 

[Smurfy]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

this is exactly one of the things iv been looking into. i visited a friend recently who works out with an ex college strength coach who now trains on his own mostly for up and coming highschool athletes, and some college athletes train with him over the summer too. his job was fucking amazing to me and im going to hopefully be talking with him more, and if everything works out in my favor, doing an internship with him.

i didnt play any football in highschool or college though and im wondering if thats something that will have me taken less seriously when it comes to athletic strength coaching

subz, lummy is friends with UMD's previouis strength coach who is now a Strength coach a Harvard for the last 2 yrs. In fact, when the guy was still at UMD, lummy and I went and visited the training facilities that the athletes use. it was pretty fuckin awesome. all of their equipment (benches, racks, plates, etc) were all red lol

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

subz, lummy is friends with UMD's previouis strength coach who is now a Strength coach a Harvard for the last 2 yrs. In fact, when the guy was still at UMD, lummy and I went and visited the training facilities that the athletes use. it was pretty fuckin awesome. all of their equipment (benches, racks, plates, etc) were all red lol

i think i remember you telling me this back in the day. do you know any more info on how he got there, for example college, after college, and near his income range?

 

[Dial_tone]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

this is exactly one of the things iv been looking into. i visited a friend recently who works out with an ex college strength coach who now trains on his own mostly for up and coming highschool athletes, and some college athletes train with him over the summer too. his job was fucking amazing to me and im going to hopefully be talking with him more, and if everything works out in my favor, doing an internship with him.

i didnt play any football in highschool or college though and im wondering if thats something that will have me taken less seriously when it comes to athletic strength coaching

All sports need strength coaches. Don't assume football is the only option.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Wow... ok, um... wow. So much info so little time... wow. I'm afraid to start this post because I may never shut up. Wow.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

I'm only putting in a half day of work and its already half over so its cliff notes for now...

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Opening a gym- Don't bother, most fold within the first 2-3 years. You have no idea how much equipment we put into new gyms just to buy it back two years down the road for pennies on the dollar and resell it.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Personal Trainer- If you really enjoy that line of work, great. But the money isn't going to be so great and its going to be a lot of time invested. Most of the time you'll work for a gym or company, they'll charge customers an insane amount per hour/session, and you'll see a small fraction of that amount. Plus you'll usually be required to drum up your own business. Only happy/successful trainers I know sell shit on the side.

 

[Faizakafez]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

^^^
Keep going, i'm intrested too,

Subz the professional trainer is cool but realistically speaking are you going to be the trainer for the washington captials? probally not, thats what i was told when i wanted to be sports agent.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Retail/Commercial Equipment Business (own)- Hard to get into the business, you need a lot of connections before starting out. Not to mention the whole, "takes money to make money" theory. But to give you an idea how our owner lives he's got a 1.7mil home (in the NW thats a big ass house) on the river, multiple sports cars, and takes about 15 vacations/trips a year (on one now even). The nice thing about high end equipment manufactures is they'll only deal with one local business, thats where the connections come in handy. Lets say you had the Precor line in your area, you'd be the only place one could get a Precor Elliptical or Treadmill in that city, you would have the exclusive on it. Again, hard to start out in this business, but once you get established its hard to be stopped. Our owner started our company back in the mid 70's, him and our general manager have even helped some of these larger companies engineer some of their first cardio/weight machines.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

im pretty unhappy in my major, and im so increadibly passionate about all aspects of the iron world. bodybuilding, powerlifting, strongman, sports training, everything, even the business side of it such as gym ownership, fitness equipment production and distrubution, and all aspects.

if there is anyone who posts here and is willing to help me out in just PMing or discussing back and forth in some form or another, their path in life, and how they do financially and how they rate their success and how they achieved it, (such as college courses, degrees, possible contacts, even job opportunities- anything as much or as little that can help me achieve my dreams of finding a job in the field of iron)...

some possible career options iv been considering and trying to find out more about are stuff like sports team weight training, sports rehab, and on the more juicer side of things, even endocrinology.

if anyone can give any advice, help, or just discussion to help me find my path in life that leads to my desired goal of being able to make a living off something i love, please PM me or just let me know on here or whatever.

thanks yal

This is what I went through school like and graduated with a worthless degree. Live and learn.

 

[dead_reggin_storage_fashi]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

get a jazzy user name and sell steroids on message boards?

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

def don't be a personal trainer............
they make shit even w/ a full book of business, and that in itself is not an easy task. on top of that the client turnaround is fairly frequent w/ a few exceptions, so you constantly have to attract new clients. Unless of course you're a trainer to the stars or some super exclusive clientele

nutritionists can make some decent coin if i'm not mistaken...and professional strength trainers etc can do alright, but again, depends on who you're servicing.

What about as a side job, in an upscale neighborhood with bored housewives, etc.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Sorry, had to eat, ok...

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Sales- There is a lot of money in sales. My brother has told me that for years and I've basically told him to stfu. A really good salesman selling really good fitness equipment can pull in 6 figures believe it or not. And unless you're living in NY or certain parts of Cali that's good money. It takes about a year for us to properly train a salesman where he knows everything he needs about every product we deal with. It also helps if they're into fitness in general, as if you look the part people will be more inclined to trust you and listen to what you're telling them. It also doesn't take a college degree to get your foot in the door, so that could be a plus to some.

 

[Faizakafez]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

so what would you recommened?

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Rep- To be a rep for some of these companies/manufactures it takes a certain breed. You'll be traveling a lot so if you have a wife, husband, or kids at home its going to wear on you fast. Money isn't the best (depends on location/cost of living), but then on the upside you're on the road a lot so you usually don't have a boss looking over your shoulder all the time. You do a lot of going around from state to state visiting the clients in your area/region and answering any questions, concerns, etc. Basically you're trying to persuade them to push your products onto people/businesses instead of the other guys. You'll also talk about the upcoming equipment and any changes/upgrades that were made. You're usually paid both salary and bonuses based on the amount of sales in your area/region.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

so what would you recommened?

Depends on the individual and their skills/strong points.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Some areas sales are great, others that have nothing but shitty chain stores like Busy Body it sucks. So a lot of things can factor in.

 

[Faizakafez]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

okay im planning on marketing/advertising

any thoughts?

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

okay im planning on marketing/advertising

any thoughts?

Yes. Please die. kthxbye

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Wait, you serious?

 

[Faizakafez]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

yea shit monkey

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

puddle monkey, so basically with the area your in for a comfortable lifestyle you pretty much have to make all the right connections...how would a college kid who just lives to lift and is willing to excitedly learn everything above and beyond whats expected of him make it, or even break into your feild?

 

[calveless wonder]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

i'm going to concur with sell steroids

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

hold on, I just woke from a nap, I'm only good for witty one liners for the next hour or so until my brain starts functioning again.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

Not that it ever functioned correctly in the first place.

 

[Faizakafez]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

lol witty one liners okay im going to eat some tuna and flax

then bed reply to this in the morning

marketing in sports or fitness...

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

lol witty one liners okay im going to eat some tuna and flax

then bed reply to this in the morning

marketing in sports or fitness...

Yeah, tomorrow will have to work. I gotta shower soon, got a wimmin coming over later tonight.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

Pay attention monkey!!

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future (very serious thread, but jokes are welcome, since its C&C afterall)

lol I forgot about this thread.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

how would a college kid who just lives to lift and is willing to excitedly learn everything above and beyond whats expected of him make it, or even break into your feild?

Uh... not even sure I'd recommend it. It would not only take years to get established it might also take some luck. Worse case scenario though you can make a decent living just doing sales on a showroom floor. And it pertaining to fitness it might make it even enjoyable.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

Uh... not even sure I'd recommend it. It would not only take years to get established it might also take some luck. Worse case scenario though you can make a decent living just doing sales on a showroom floor. And it pertaining to fitness it might make it even enjoyable.

okay so i guess that path isnt gunna work...hopefully i can get super lucky and become a strength coach for a team! fuck thatd be rediculously amazing

 

[gjohnson5]

Re: Are any of you EFers in the fitness industry that can help me out with my future

Unfortunately the practice of selling X numbers of units in order to get a certain percentage of market penatration does infact lead the smaller guys being pushed out of business...

You need capital and a good strategy before just trying to start a business

No, most businesses go out of business quickly.